captscooby81
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Anyone has any clue about what this guy is blabbering and by any chance is this guy here in DFI ??
Trump Walks Out Of Iran Nuclear Deal
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He is saying that India tuitioned NK during VK Singh's tenure in Dehradun and India is now supplying them with trade items to make them keep quiet.
But, NK already had nuclear technology in 2009 itself. Also, UPA was installed by USA and ISI, which in turn meant that UPA would not have gone against USA to give NK the nuclear technology
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I was thinking the same. It may be move to prevent Noko supply more missile/nuclear tech to Porkis. You want to have some leverage rather than not having any at all.
Trump is making things very predictable. So no harm in having interaction.
Trump is making things very predictable. So no harm in having interaction.
Btw what does India gain by meeting Kim Jong.??? What does NK bring to us.
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India has said that they are general course for which material is available in open source and no specific training is given. India did not train them but only gave education. The same education is also available in Germany, China, France etc for other students. How do you think AQ Khan got his education?
That is not a secret nor is it a security lapse.
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Well DPRK has been seen a no of visit ,the DPRK foreign Minister visited in 2015 ,then in 2017 Mos home rijiju took a delegation of MPs to Pyongyang now this visit,it will naturally culminate with PM's Visit the previous govt UPA under US pressure didn't do zilch ,now it is different but hey this is offtopic and derailing the thread
Total set to pull out of Iran gas deal
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French energy giant Total is preparing to pull out of a billion dollar gas project in Iran in the face of renewed US sanctions.
Total said it will unwind operations by November unless sanctions are waived.
Washington is re-imposing strict sanctions on Iran, which were lifted under the 2015 deal to curb the country's nuclear ambitions.
German insurer Allianz and Danish tanker operator Maersk are also winding down their business in Iran.
Total signed a contract in 2017 to develop phase 11 of Iran's South Pars gas field, with an initial planned investment of $1bn (£750m).
"Total will not continue the SP11 (South Pars 11) project and will have to unwind all related operations before 4 November 2018, unless Total is granted a specific project waiver by US authorities with the support of the French and European authorities," the French oil and gas company said in a statement.
Europe strives to keep Iran deal alive
The Iran nuclear deal explained in five key points
Trump pulls out of Iran deal
Following the international agreement three years ago to ease the embargo against Iran, companies began exploring trade and investment with the former isolated state.
Some including energy, aerospace and rail engineering firms agreed preliminary deals, but those have now been thrown into uncertainty.
Earlier this month President Donald Trump withdrew the US from the international deal with Iran. Calling it "decaying and rotten", he said the deal was "an embarrassment" to him "as a citizen".
Going against advice from European allies, he said he would reimpose economic sanctions that were waived when the deal was signed in 2015.
While European governments continued to support the deal with Iran, firms which operate internationally risk falling foul of the reinstated US embargo.
'Situation will pass'
Total's announcement comes after Denmark's Maersk, which operates oil tankers globally, said it would fulfil commitments in Iran already on its books but would not enter into any new contracts.
Another Danish oil tanker operator Torm has said it would stop taking new orders in Iran.
German insurer Allianz said its business in Iran was "totally minimal" but while they were waiting for guidance from the EU and the German government they would be winding down any business there.
Total said it had spent less than $47m on the Iran project so far and that pulling out would not affect the company's production growth targets.
Iran's oil minister Bijan Zanganeh said on Wednesday, that Tehran would overcome pressures resulting from the United States' withdrawal from the nuclear deal.
"The current situation will pass and Iran will emerge as a winner," the oil ministry's news agency SHANA quoted Zanganeh as saying
French energy giant Total is preparing to pull out of a billion dollar gas project in Iran in the face of renewed US sanctions.
Total said it will unwind operations by November unless sanctions are waived.
Washington is re-imposing strict sanctions on Iran, which were lifted under the 2015 deal to curb the country's nuclear ambitions.
German insurer Allianz and Danish tanker operator Maersk are also winding down their business in Iran.
Total signed a contract in 2017 to develop phase 11 of Iran's South Pars gas field, with an initial planned investment of $1bn (£750m).
"Total will not continue the SP11 (South Pars 11) project and will have to unwind all related operations before 4 November 2018, unless Total is granted a specific project waiver by US authorities with the support of the French and European authorities," the French oil and gas company said in a statement.
Europe strives to keep Iran deal alive
The Iran nuclear deal explained in five key points
Trump pulls out of Iran deal
Following the international agreement three years ago to ease the embargo against Iran, companies began exploring trade and investment with the former isolated state.
Some including energy, aerospace and rail engineering firms agreed preliminary deals, but those have now been thrown into uncertainty.
Earlier this month President Donald Trump withdrew the US from the international deal with Iran. Calling it "decaying and rotten", he said the deal was "an embarrassment" to him "as a citizen".
Going against advice from European allies, he said he would reimpose economic sanctions that were waived when the deal was signed in 2015.
While European governments continued to support the deal with Iran, firms which operate internationally risk falling foul of the reinstated US embargo.
'Situation will pass'
Total's announcement comes after Denmark's Maersk, which operates oil tankers globally, said it would fulfil commitments in Iran already on its books but would not enter into any new contracts.
Another Danish oil tanker operator Torm has said it would stop taking new orders in Iran.
German insurer Allianz said its business in Iran was "totally minimal" but while they were waiting for guidance from the EU and the German government they would be winding down any business there.
Total said it had spent less than $47m on the Iran project so far and that pulling out would not affect the company's production growth targets.
Iran's oil minister Bijan Zanganeh said on Wednesday, that Tehran would overcome pressures resulting from the United States' withdrawal from the nuclear deal.
"The current situation will pass and Iran will emerge as a winner," the oil ministry's news agency SHANA quoted Zanganeh as saying
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Maybe it will stop their dirty deals with PAK.Btw what does India gain by meeting Kim Jong.??? What does NK bring to us.
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India stands firm with Iran over US pullout of nuke deal
External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj with Minister of State VK Singh during the ministry's annual press conference on completion of 4 years of the NDA government. (Photo: PTI)
HIGHLIGHTS
Amid the US pullout of the 2015 Iran Nuclear Deal, India on Monday not only extended unequivocal support to its old, traditional partner, Iran but also held bilateral talks with its Foreign Minister Javad Zarif.
External Affair Minister Sushma Swaraj during her annual conference on Monday said New Delhi will keep trading with Iran and ties with Tehran will remain unaffected with sanctions imposed by one country.
"India follows only UN sanctions and not unilateral sanctions by any country," she said when asked about New Delhi's response to the US decision to withdraw from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), a.k.a. the Iran Nuclear Deal, which was reached between Iran and the five permanent members of the UN Security Council (US, Britain, France, Russia and China) and Germany.
Also read: Talks with Pakistan inappropriate when there are funerals at border: Sushma Swaraj
India has in the past tried to circumnavigate all sanctions imposed by the West and engaged Tehran but it was very difficult, with the economic sanctions in place, to do business with them.
The key agreement signed in 2015 by the Obama administration had come as a sigh of relief and led to the stabilisation of world crude oil prices.
India also emphasised that while it engages all nations, it does not work under "duress" or "pressure" from any country. "We don't form our foreign policy under pressure from any country nor for the lure of any country. We believe in UN sanctions but not in country-specific sanctions," she pointed out.
Also read: India in talks with US over H1B And H4 spouses visas issue
During her bilateral meeting with her Iranian counterpart in the evening, the two sides discussed the US pullout from the JCPOA. A statement from the Ministry of External Affairs said, "FM Zarif briefed about the discussions that Iran has undertaken with parties to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action following the US decision to withdraw from the Agreement. EAM conveyed that all parties to the Agreement should engage constructively for peaceful resolution of the issues that have arisen with respect to the Agreement."
The two sides also discussed bilateral, regional and international issues of mutual interest. There were separate meetings that took place between accompanying delegation officials and their Indian counterparts from concerned departments.
Sushma Swaraj and Zarif also "assessed the implementation of decisions taken during the visit of President Rouhani to India. These included bilateral cooperation in the areas of connectivity, energy, trade and promotion of people to people contacts", said the statement.
- Geeta Mohan
- New Delhi
- May 29, 2018 UPDATED 05:53 IST
External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj with Minister of State VK Singh during the ministry's annual press conference on completion of 4 years of the NDA government. (Photo: PTI)
HIGHLIGHTS
- India has in the past tried to circumnavigate all sanctions imposed by the West
- Key agreement was signed in 2015 by the Obama administration
- India also emphasised that while it engages all nations, it does not work under "duress" or "pressure" from any country
Amid the US pullout of the 2015 Iran Nuclear Deal, India on Monday not only extended unequivocal support to its old, traditional partner, Iran but also held bilateral talks with its Foreign Minister Javad Zarif.
External Affair Minister Sushma Swaraj during her annual conference on Monday said New Delhi will keep trading with Iran and ties with Tehran will remain unaffected with sanctions imposed by one country.
"India follows only UN sanctions and not unilateral sanctions by any country," she said when asked about New Delhi's response to the US decision to withdraw from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), a.k.a. the Iran Nuclear Deal, which was reached between Iran and the five permanent members of the UN Security Council (US, Britain, France, Russia and China) and Germany.
Also read: Talks with Pakistan inappropriate when there are funerals at border: Sushma Swaraj
India has in the past tried to circumnavigate all sanctions imposed by the West and engaged Tehran but it was very difficult, with the economic sanctions in place, to do business with them.
The key agreement signed in 2015 by the Obama administration had come as a sigh of relief and led to the stabilisation of world crude oil prices.
India also emphasised that while it engages all nations, it does not work under "duress" or "pressure" from any country. "We don't form our foreign policy under pressure from any country nor for the lure of any country. We believe in UN sanctions but not in country-specific sanctions," she pointed out.
Also read: India in talks with US over H1B And H4 spouses visas issue
During her bilateral meeting with her Iranian counterpart in the evening, the two sides discussed the US pullout from the JCPOA. A statement from the Ministry of External Affairs said, "FM Zarif briefed about the discussions that Iran has undertaken with parties to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action following the US decision to withdraw from the Agreement. EAM conveyed that all parties to the Agreement should engage constructively for peaceful resolution of the issues that have arisen with respect to the Agreement."
The two sides also discussed bilateral, regional and international issues of mutual interest. There were separate meetings that took place between accompanying delegation officials and their Indian counterparts from concerned departments.
Sushma Swaraj and Zarif also "assessed the implementation of decisions taken during the visit of President Rouhani to India. These included bilateral cooperation in the areas of connectivity, energy, trade and promotion of people to people contacts", said the statement.
The US in India's largest trade partner after China. Unlike with China India has a trade surplus with the US (to the tune of $20 billion annually). This trade surplus means Indian companies have more to lose economically in a trade war with the US.
India's large volume of trade with the US means a great many Indian companies and banks, have links to the US financial system.
The Indian political leadership is talking tough and it makes eminent strategic sense for India as country to keep Iran as a supplier of oil ,True.. But the Islamic Republic of Iran is an enemy of the United States and its allies Israel and Saudi Arabia.
India has somehow to find a way to trade with Iran ,while bypassing US sanctions. I for one can't see an Indian banker or business leader,operating globally, with views to the bottom line, willing to sacrifice their American market in order to continue doing business with Iran.
India's large volume of trade with the US means a great many Indian companies and banks, have links to the US financial system.
The Indian political leadership is talking tough and it makes eminent strategic sense for India as country to keep Iran as a supplier of oil ,True.. But the Islamic Republic of Iran is an enemy of the United States and its allies Israel and Saudi Arabia.
India has somehow to find a way to trade with Iran ,while bypassing US sanctions. I for one can't see an Indian banker or business leader,operating globally, with views to the bottom line, willing to sacrifice their American market in order to continue doing business with Iran.
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USA is not a benevolent country that is helping India. USA needs India for various political reason. India has extraordinary cpout in Arab countries,even more than China and USA can't afford to antagonize India. USA economy relies on petrodollars after all.
After the destruction of Iraq, America's military is now the only counterbalance to Iran and last line of defence to Iranian hegemony in the Middle East..
A cursory examination of the number of America bases and military facilities around Iran, seems to suggest that the American military-industrial complex is committed to the long-term strategic containment of Iran,
Mullah run Iran,being the mortal enemy of the Arab gulf states(Qatar notwithstanding), it would the Arabs need the US mor than ever. So,Gulf Arabs are committed long-term to an alliance with the US, even if America reduces it reliance on Arab oil.
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Iran is not a bigger enemy of Arabs compared to USA. Iran is the enemy of USA. Aeabs havhave now formed Islamic Military Alliance and that will replace USA bases henceforthAfter the destruction of Iraq, America's military is now the only counterbalance to Iran and last line of defence to Iranian hegemony in the Middle East..
A cursory examination of the number of America bases and military facilities around Iran, seems to suggest that the American military-industrial complex is committed to the long-term strategic containment of Iran,
Mullah run Iran,being the mortal enemy of the Arab gulf states(Qatar notwithstanding), it would the Arabs need the US mor than ever. So,Gulf Arabs are committed long-term to an alliance with the US, even if America reduces it reliance on Arab oil.
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Looks like something is cooking in the Gulf Both Saudi and Iran saying their ships are damaged in sabotage incident
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Iran's tankers didn't get sabotaged. Iran just expressed concern over Saudi tankers being sabotaged [allegedly by someone else].
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Well!! Iran was already in a corner..
BUT
the Hamas attacked Israel making it even worse for Iran. Iran did another pak style ill timed attack
Now that has made the situation worse and gave more reason for world nations to kick Iran.
BUT
the Hamas attacked Israel making it even worse for Iran. Iran did another pak style ill timed attack
Now that has made the situation worse and gave more reason for world nations to kick Iran.
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Any chance it was a mischief managed by Iranians? It suspect Khemenei,he is a fox.
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It could be literally anyone. Could be Israel or USA doing a false flag too. Remember this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident
They created a false incident to be used as an excuse to start the Vietnam war.
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Did pakis make a statement after the ships were sabotaged in the arabian waters near Iran, UAE and Qatar. ?
After all the Pakis are the islamic protectors.
What happened to the pelvic appendage of the pakis ? it points west ... the pakis are within 500 KM of such things and it impacts middle east (around same distance to New Delhi from some areas of Pakis many will say).
Can the pakis please announce how they feel about Iran and USA and Saudi.
Also would be good why they can have nukes but Iran cannot (for reference). You know how Iran has a nuke deal with P+5+1 (without USA) and Pakis have ...
After all the Pakis are the islamic protectors.
What happened to the pelvic appendage of the pakis ? it points west ... the pakis are within 500 KM of such things and it impacts middle east (around same distance to New Delhi from some areas of Pakis many will say).
Can the pakis please announce how they feel about Iran and USA and Saudi.
Also would be good why they can have nukes but Iran cannot (for reference). You know how Iran has a nuke deal with P+5+1 (without USA) and Pakis have ...
