Toy guns favourite item for children on Eid

[rock127]

I suppose you then live in a different Pakistan, friend.

For Middle-Class Pakistanis, a Gun Is a Must-Have Accessory

"Guns have long been part of Pakistan's traditional culture, especially in the rugged northwestern part of the country. Handed down through generations, rifles have been used for hunting and for firing celebratory fusillades. Now, however, modern assault rifles and handguns have come into vogue among middle-class Pakistanis, and gun registration has jumped.

This proliferation reflects many urbanites' dwindling faith that the country's new civilian government can protect them. Over the past year, Pakistan has endured the assassination of popular political leader Benazir Bhutto, a spreading Islamist insurgency and the bombing of Islamabad's Marriott Hotel. November's deadly terror attacks in Mumbai, allegedly carried out by 10 Pakistani militants trained here, further frayed nerves."

DENIAL MODE is a essential part of Paki culture.

Just deny anything even if their own media reports any issue.In this case they say CIA/Mossad/RAW backed Paki media.

 

[rock127]

Could to please eleborate more on above mentioned bold part ? and how a child toy stands for a gun ?

Read post#11 and if it doesn't answer your question then read some ancient history of India.You should spend some time reading stuff of others rather than moving ferociously like mad and reciting some holy book which is more of a killing manual.

So a Toy Gun stand for peace? That's the reason Al-Qaida etc have their flag with cross gun symbol?

Also you didn't answer how Eid is related to a toy gun.

 

[rizwan78]

I suppose you then live in a different Pakistan, friend.

For Middle-Class Pakistanis, a Gun Is a Must-Have Accessory

"Guns have long been part of Pakistan's traditional culture, especially in the rugged northwestern part of the country. Handed down through generations, rifles have been used for hunting and for firing celebratory fusillades. Now, however, modern assault rifles and handguns have come into vogue among middle-class Pakistanis, and gun registration has jumped.

This proliferation reflects many urbanites' dwindling faith that the country's new civilian government can protect them. Over the past year, Pakistan has endured the assassination of popular political leader Benazir Bhutto, a spreading Islamist insurgency and the bombing of Islamabad's Marriott Hotel. November's deadly terror attacks in Mumbai, allegedly carried out by 10 Pakistani militants trained here, further frayed nerves."

Then as per following post India is the 2nd lorgest terrorist nation after USA
Gun culture spreads in India - Los Angeles Times
Gun culture spreads in India
Indians own about 40 million guns, second only to the U.S. Rising incomes, along with crime and fear of terrorist attacks, have fueled firearms purchases.
February 20, 2012|By Mark Magnier, Los Angeles Times
Reporting from Chandigarh, India — Vikramjit Singh stands in the parking lot of a posh club in Chandigarh discussing one of his favorite subjects: guns. He owns 10 or so; he can't remember exactly. They may come in handy if the old family feud resurfaces.
In a Hatfield-versus-McCoy saga that haunts the 25-year-old student, his grandfather was shot to death here in the western state of Punjab and his father imprisoned for a retaliatory murder. Although the two clans signed a truce a few years back, Singh isn't taking any chances.
"Having a gun 24/7 is a necessity," he says. "You don't know if their relatives will crop up again. And an expensive weapon is a status symbol. You can't flash just any old gun around."

India, the land of Mohandas Gandhi, known for its Hindu belief in the sanctity of life, is anything but gun-shy. Rising incomes have made high-end weapons a new form of bling, and rising crime and memories of Mumbai's 2008 terrorist attack have left Indians eager to be armed and dangerous.

Government worker Deep Sidhu sits in his living room feeling the weight of the family's Luger, a German World War II-era pistol, in his hands. Guns are in the blood, he says beneath a painting of a man toting a shotgun.

"This forgiveness-peace idea will only make Pakistanis think we're soft targets," he says.

"All that Gandhi stuff is for tourists," adds his father, Raja K.S. Sidhu. "They should go off to Varanasi, see the holy cows."

Despite tough controls on weapons, Indians own about 40 million guns, the second-highest number in the world. Of those, 85% are unregistered Saturday-night specials involved in 90% of firearm homicides. That said, there are only 3 guns for every 100 people in India, compared with 89 guns per 100 Americans, the world leaders, according to gunpolicy.org.

India recorded 80,000 violations of its Arms Act in 2009, involving owning, making and transporting illegal weapons, an 8% increase from 2007, according to India's National Crimes Records Bureau. Despite the increase, most homicides here still involve knives, machetes and other weapons, with guns accounting for just 14% of killings.

India also remains a far less violent society than the U.S., at 2.78 homicides per 100,000 people, compared with 4.96 Americans per 100,000. Indian gun lovers remain convinced, however, that the country needs more firearms given its low police-to-population ratio, among the world's worst.

As gun culture spreads, local governments have offered to fast-track firearms licenses if men have vasectomies. Families include firearms in dowries. And authorities have discouraged celebratory gunfire at weddings after several accidents, including the recent death of a bridegroom when his uncle's revelry shots went terribly wrong.

Newspaper headlines detail numerous fatalities, many involving petty disputes: a toll collector killed with a homemade "country pistol," India's term for a Saturday-night special, over 50 cents; a 22-year-old man shot dead after a fight about urinating; a twentysomething man killed after jostling in line for water dispensed from a truck. On Jan. 28, five people were killed in election-related violence in the northeastern state of Manipur after the shooting deaths of at least two a day earlier.

"Are we not paying for the rising gun violence in India?" asks antigun activist Binalakshmi Nepram, secretary-general of Control Arms Foundation of India. "It is a wrong perception that one needs a gun for security."
In an attempt to curtail the violence, New Delhi recently started rigidly enforcing its already tough gun licensing rules, which had been easy to bypass through bribes or personal connections. The rules include police checks, strict limits on ammunition and a need to prove that one's life is endangered.

Security guard Kuldeep Kumar, 30, lounges in front of an HDFC Bank branch with his far-from-new 12-gauge shotgun. Obtaining a license took ages and heaps of red tape, he says, proudly showing the thick booklet with multiple approval stamps and detailed rules.

The rules punish law-abiding citizens and encourage unlicensed ownership, gun lovers say. They also have Jugraj Singh, owner of Chandigarh's Singh Gun House, looking for another line of work. "Business used to be a lot better," he says beside 25 rifles and shotguns in a dusty rack.

Tighter regulations also prompted gun owners to found the 3,500-member National Assn. for Gun Rights India in 2010, modeled on America's National Rifle Assn., which lobbies the government to ease restrictions.

"Guns boost an individual's confidence," says a video by the group, titled "Guns For Peace." "Guns are force equalizers."

Rakshit Sharma, the group's secretary-general, says the Mumbai attack would have been cut short if Taj Mahal hotel guests had been carrying firearms. "The government has a very antiarms view," he says.

 

[rizwan78]

Read post#11 and if it doesn't answer your question then read some ancient history of India.You should spend some time reading stuff of others rather than moving ferociously like mad and reciting some holy book which is more of a killing manual.

So a Toy Gun stand for peace? That's the reason Al-Qaida etc have their flag with cross gun symbol?

Also you didn't answer how Eid is related to a toy gun.

DOnt be a mad just answer the bold part which i have mentioned , what is the translation of an eval in your Hindu dictionary ? and secondly i have told you before the in ALMOST every relegious holy book there is mentioned to live with peace and faught with evals , now it is you and me woh picked it wrong . in QURRAN jehad is mentioned few times but peace has been mentioned again and again

 

[thethinker]

Then as per following post India is the 2nd lorgest terrorist nation after USA
Gun culture spreads in India - Los Angeles Times

From the same article :

Indians own about 40 million guns, second only to the U.S. Rising incomes, along with crime and fear of terrorist attacks, have fueled firearms purchases.

"This forgiveness-peace idea will only make Pakistanis think we're soft targets," he says.

India, the land of Mohandas Gandhi, known for its Hindu belief in the sanctity of life, is anything but gun-shy. Rising incomes have made high-end weapons a new form of bling, and rising crime and memories of Mumbai's 2008 terrorist attack have left Indians eager to be armed and dangerous.

Thanks for the validation that India has a failed terrorist state called Pakistan as it's neighbour.

 

[rizwan78]

From the same article :

Indians own about 40 million guns, second only to the U.S. Rising incomes, along with crime and fear of terrorist attacks, have fueled firearms purchases.

"This forgiveness-peace idea will only make Pakistanis think we're soft targets," he says.

India, the land of Mohandas Gandhi, known for its Hindu belief in the sanctity of life, is anything but gun-shy. Rising incomes have made high-end weapons a new form of bling, and rising crime and memories of Mumbai's 2008 terrorist attack have left Indians eager to be armed and dangerous.

Thanks for the validation that India has a failed terrorist state called Pakistan as it's neighbour.

Hahaha........if you keep it it means you have them for defense purpose and if we keep it mean it is for terrorisam ,
and we are more thankfull to INDIA , that we are now a fearless nuclear state

 

[bennedose]

Self respecting Indian Muslims used to call it "Id" but now Wahhabi-Arab desert winds have made in "Eid" Are Arabs unable to say "ee" like they can't say "P" - "Al Bakistan"

Bakistan is what was obtained when all brains, sense and civilization was drained out of people who left India

 

[thethinker]

Hahaha........if you keep it it means you have them for defense purpose and if we keep it mean it is for terrorisam ,
and we are more thankfull to INDIA , that we are now a fearless nuclear state

Totally understand why you keep it. Must be a pain in ass to see those drones flying around.

How is the internal stability in Pakistan? All flights arriving and departing on time?

And keep playing the nuclear card, who knows how long can you play it with Pak in it's current state.

 

[rock127]

DOnt be a mad just answer the bold part which i have mentioned , what is the translation of an eval in your Hindu dictionary ? and secondly i have told you before the in ALMOST every relegious holy book there is mentioned to live with peace and faught with evals , now it is you and me woh picked it wrong . in QURRAN jehad is mentioned few times but peace has been mentioned again and again

It's YOU who is getting mad since you can't answer a simple questions about how toy guns are related to a festival "Eid" which is supposed to be for peace,love,brotherhood,charity etc etc. Your killing manual is actually the biggest problem which openly calls all non-Muslims as Kafirs.

A product of mass rape and torcher is asking what's "evil" is hilarious.In todays scenario EVIL = Pakistan and the whole world is fed up of your terrorism and DENIAL MODE.

But it's all good since your denial mode is actually backfiring badly and we can enjoy sitting easy while you Pakis kill your own Muslim people. Pakistan is the biggest Muslim killer in history.

 

[rizwan78]

Totally understand why you keep it. Must be a pain in ass to see those drones flying around.

How is the internal stability in Pakistan? All flights arriving and departing on time?

And keep playing the nuclear card, who knows how long can you play it with Pak in it's current state.

Every drone is blessing for us who are killing TTP and Taliban rats, you will not see any drone attack after the completion of Zarb e Azab by Pak army, Our internal stability is much improved after waziristan operation , and mind it pakistan is here to stay and we will remain an A$$ pain of many rude nations arround us

 

[bennedose]

we are now a fearless nuclear state

In fact it was fear of India that made Pakistanis develop nuclear weapons. So the claimed "fearlessness" is dependent solely on nuclear weapons. This was well known to Indians but of late western authors like gori aurat Christine Fair have documented it.

The Pakistani story has always been that India will attack them or swallow them up and that Indians "do not accept Pakistan" -so they are always under threat. Now with nuclear weapons India cannot attack Pakistan, therefore Pakis are safe from India, therefore Pakistanis can be "fearless". Pakistan's state failure and inability to control vast parts of its own country are secondary to the overriding and overwhelming presence of big bad kafir India next door.

 

[bennedose]

and mind it pakistan is here to stay and we will remain an A$$ pain of many rude nations arround us

There - this is exactly it. After 67 years Pakistanis still have to say "Pakistan is here to stay". The fear that Pakistan will dissolve into nothingness and meaninglesness because of India still exists. Pakis still have to tell themselves "Pakistan is here to stay". Funny bunch of nut cases.

 

[thethinker]

Every drone is blessing for us who are killing TTP and Taliban rats, you will not see any drone attack after the completion of Zarb e Azab by Pak army, Our internal stability is much improved after waziristan operation , and mind it pakistan is here to stay and we will remain an A$$ pain of many rude nations arround us

The joys of being a simple jingo.

The news about daily bomb blasts over there must be a propaganda too since as per you the internal stability has "improved".

 

[rizwan78]

In fact it was fear of India that made Pakistanis develop nuclear weapons. So the claimed "fearlessness" is dependent solely on nuclear weapons. This was well known to Indians but of late western authors like gori aurat Christine Fair have documented it.

The Pakistani story has always been that India will attack them or swallow them up and that Indians "do not accept Pakistan" -so they are always under threat. Now with nuclear weapons India cannot attack Pakistan, therefore Pakis are safe from India, therefore Pakistanis can be "fearless". Pakistan's state failure and inability to control vast parts of its own country are secondary to the overriding and overwhelming presence of big bad kafir India next door.

So does india mate so does China , so does israil every nation have became nuclear state because of fearness of the other states, if you replace the world india with china and pakistan with india you will batter understand

 

[rizwan78]

There - this is exactly it. After 67 years Pakistanis still have to say "Pakistan is here to stay". The fear that Pakistan will dissolve into nothingness and meaninglesness because of India still exists. Pakis still have to tell themselves "Pakistan is here to stay". Funny bunch of nut cases.

And you guys are still worry about the famous ghazwa e hind

 

[Neo]

So does india mate so does China , so does israil every nation have became nuclear state because of fearness of the other states, if you replace the world india with china and pakistan with india you will batter understand

Don't waste your time talking logic yaar, they won't understand.

 

[Blackwater]

And you guys are still worry about the famous ghazwa e hind

yes we are eagerly waiting for radio Pakistan from lal qila delhi.

BTW radio Pakistan does not even work properly in Pakistan, how will it work in india

make sure zaid hamid comes with all modern radio equipment

 

[rizwan78]

yes we are eagerly waiting for radio Pakistan from lal qila delhi.

BTW radio Pakistan does not even work properly in Pakistan, how will it work in india

make sure zaid hamid comes with all modern radio equipment

Any ki kea zarorat hay phaa g , jub khali kehny say he agla mootny lag jay to marny ki kea zaroorat
aor by the way yeh zahid hamid kon hay ? hum to nahe janty usko jitna aap log janty hoo

 

[bennedose]

So does india mate so does China , so does israil every nation have became nuclear state because of fearness of the other states, if you replace the world india with china and pakistan with india you will batter understand

Yes but Indians do not keep on saying "We are safe because of nuclear weapons". Indian say - we are unsafe because of nuclear weapons and we want China to feel unsafe.

Pakistanis say they are safe because of nuclear weapons when they are not safe. Pakis will still have their balls blasted out. Nuclear weapons do not make you safe. They make the other guy unsafe. So what I cannot understand is why you are feeling safe. In fact Pakis say they feel safe because India will now not attack them. That is true only so far as Pakis don;t use their nuclear weapons. if they do - then Pakistan will be ttacked and destroyed even at the cost of an India that is badly hurt.

So in real terms your danger is not decreased. It remains the same or worse. So how come you have no fear? Let me guess. it is because Pakistanis don't mind dying. Here I agree with you. I also don't mind Pakistanis dying

 

[bennedose]

And you guys are still worry about the famous ghazwa e hind

In fact a lot of Pakistanis want to believe that Indians want Ghazwa e Hind so that they can say "We are safe now. Hindus won't get Ghazwa e hind" The fact is partition was an amputation of useless people from India. Pakistanis need to stay out of India and Indians. Remember the words of your Prophet Jinna (PBUH) - Hindu and Muslims are two nations. We are different nations - but still after 67 years you are afraid of Indians simply talking about Ghazwa e Hind. In fact this is Pakistan Gas-wa-e-behind"