Tolerance is a two way street

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  1. rcscwc

    rcscwc Tihar Jail Banned

    Sep 27, 2010
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    Tolerance is a two way street

    All the xians, from pope to the lay ones are fond of sermonizing the non xians about virtues of tolerance. This "tolerance" actually means tolerance of xians, irrespective of their crimes, sins and depredations. They keep on pointing fingers at the intolerance of non xians. But they forget that tolerance is not a one way street, where they are free to travel. They must tolerate the non xians too traveling the same street in whichever direction they choose.

    First step on the street of tolerance is to recognise that others too have a right on the street.

    While insulting the Pharisees and Sadducees, John the Baptist calls an entire generation a "generation of vipers." Matt. 3:7. This definitely is not a lesson in tolerance. This passage is responsible for the xians to hate non xians.

    Second step is in recognising the freedom of non xians in respect of faith. Let us see how they do it.

    Cities that neither "receive" the disciples nor "hear" their words will be destroyed by God. It will be worse for them than for Sodom and Gomorrah. And you know what God supposedly did to those poor folks (see Gen.19:24). Matt. 10:14-15

    Any city that doesn't "receive" the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11. Jesus makes it clear that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed "for not receiving the followers of biblegod". Their only sin was that they were not ready to host Lot, nothing else.

    A clear usurpation of the right intrude on others and force them to listen to their word. Suppose Hindus don't want to receive those disciples, nor do they want to listen?? Clear. Carry out the wish of their god and destroy them and their cities. This single passage has resulted in the large scale genocides in America, Africa and Australia, and Asia too. Asians were culturally strong and were able to largely resist it, but others were destroyed. But their dirty tricks department is strong. Swami Laxmanand had been demonised for years, for resisting proselytizing missionaries and finally killed on 23 Aug, 2008.

    A third step in tolerance is the uniting of the families. If family members are tolerant of each other, it is a harmonious family. If they are intolerant of each other, it is a text book method of ushering in a disharmonious society. Does xianity such a family harmony? NO.

    Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has "come not to send peace, but a sword." Matt. 10:34-36

    If the missionaries succeed in converting just member of a family, he pulls out a figurative sword against his kins. He repudiates every thing that he had: Food, clothes, way of greeting and general comport, just because he MUST appear different. He will pressurize and persecute them into conversion. Not long ago, an Indian xian woman killed her husband for refusing to convert. Her death sentence has been commuted into imprisonment for life.

    Fourth step is in forgiving. Do they forgive? NO.

    "His blood be on us, and on our children." This verse blames the Jews for the death of Jesus and has been used to justify their persecution for twenty centuries culminating in the holocaust. Matt. 27:25

    Biblegod in OT promises that he shall punish the seven generations for sins of fathers. For how many generations the Jews were punished??

    Jesus merrily trample on the freedom of conscience.

    Jesus says, "He that is not with me is against me." Luk. 11:23. What tolerance he is teaching.

    Forcing others to believe in your god is not tolerance at all.

    Now that Jesus has come, non-believers have no excuse for not believing in him. 15:22

    Excuse?? As if not believing him is a crime, so that I will search for excuses!!

    Xians, heal thyself. Be tolerant first. Don't go on testing the tolerance of others, it is finite even if long. And break point is fast approaching.

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  3. KS

    KS Bye bye DFI Veteran Member

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    Thought this would be the relevant place to share this about a fact finding team's "From the Ground" report of the Mangalore incidents where Christian places of Worship were "alleged" to be attacked by Ram Sene.

    It is a Long read - but worth it as it clear several misconceptions propagated by the main stream "Secular" media.
  4. Alexis121

    Alexis121 New Member

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    Tolerance Is a Two-Way Street

    When the Swiss people voted recently to forbid construction of more minarets, the world in general reacted with swift condemnation.

    Not only Muslims saw this as a display of hatred of Islam. Western governments and distinguished editorial pages denounced the successful referendum as a bigoted and irrational reaction to the increasing presence of Muslims in European societies.

    The reaction was on the mark. Whatever challenges are entailed in the absorption of Muslim immigrants into Western culture could not be fairly addressed by such a crude manifestation of xenophobia.

    But what the Swiss did, over the vigorous opposition of their government, is not comparable to what Christians and other religious minorities are forced to endure in some Muslim countries — often with tacit if not explicit governmental sanction and in contradiction of constitutional provisions granting freedom of religion.

    This was brought home by Christmas last week. In Iraq, a remnant of one of the oldest Christian communities, now vastly depleted, was compelled to hide its religious observance. This happened in a nation where the government deployed police to protect Christians from attacks by Muslim fanatics. It is also a country where, according to the latest annual State Department report, very few perpetrators of violence against Christians have been punished. Arrests, the report states, for “murder and other crimes are rare.”

    The 2009 report on the state of international religious freedom notes that historically “no country has a perfect record on religious freedom.” So all nations have cause to be more reflective about their societal defects, including the Muslim societies that rightfully protested the Swiss vote.

    Muslim nations for 10 years have pressed the United Nations to address Islamophobia through a resolution banning the “defamation of religion.” The United States and others have opposed this as a barely disguised tactic to prevent criticism of religious abuses practiced by Muslims.
    The State Department’s assessment of the state of religious freedom in many nations has a category labeled “Countries of Particular Concern.” Prominent among these is Saudi Arabia, a country with which the United States has long-tenured and deep ties.

    Despite these associations, Saudi Arabia vies for being the worst of the lot. The report states that “freedom of religion is neither recognized nor protected under Saudi law and is severely restricted in practice.” That includes prohibiting the public practice of non-Islamic religions.

    Furthermore, its commitment to Islamism includes using its oil wealth to underwrite fundamentalist religious schools around the world, many of them producing religiously-motivated terrorists.

    In Afghanistan, the constitution states other religions are free to practice their faith “within the limits of the provisions of the law.” This means nothing “contrary to the beliefs and provisions” of Islam. The report states that “most local Christians do not publicly state their beliefs or gather openly to worship.”

    In Pakistan, “Security forces and other government agencies did not adequately prevent or address societal abuse against minorities.”

    In Egypt, where the constitution also provides for the practice of non-Islamic religions, “the government places restrictions on these rights in practice.”
    The list goes on. Some Muslim countries have better records, such as Indonesia, the most populous Muslim country in the world.
    Other, non-Muslim nations practice their own kinds of religious intolerance.
    Which brings us back to Switzerland, a country described as being more relaxed about religious differences. As mean-spirited as the right-wing sponsored referendum was, it did not interfere with the construction of mosques themselves nor did it burden its 400,000 Muslim residents with restrictions beyond the minaret ban.
    We live in a changing and contentious world where the forces of what has become known as globalization push together various peoples and their clashing cultural values. It is a time better served by not lashing out in fear or anger; a time for introspection to help overcome alienations. And that means that the path to adjustments has to run both ways.
    Harry Rosenfeld is editor at large of the Albany Times Union in New York.
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  5. natarajan

    natarajan Senior Member Senior Member

    Jul 28, 2009
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    great article but no posts
  6. niharjhatn

    niharjhatn Regular Member

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  7. GPM

    GPM Tihar Jail Banned

    Mar 5, 2011
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    No surprise. Anything remotely critical of desert religions is a N NO foe our so called liberal. Doubly, if Hinduism is praised even most remotely.

    Pseudo liberals stand exposed here, IMHO.

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