Tibetans shot dead for failing to observe Chinese New Year

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1 hans dont want to live in tibet doesnt mean we dont need tibet....even han soldiers dont want to go to tibet but they have their duties so they r sent to there...and u dont even know this? so does a hindu soldier goes to kashimir mean he will try to convert some muslims there to hindu??

2 hans look slightly different from area to area...mainly becoz weather conditions....what they eat etc etc.......so some may be taller than some others or skin may look brighter........but thats normal.......which can surely be obversed in other races.....how ever there r major differences between hans and some other races in china including tibetan by looking....u dont even look like han how do u becmoe 1?

3 tibet became part of china way early than the day u invaded kashmir.....learn some history my indian friend....
 

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i oppose this sametime it should't be like our govenment which is a silent spectator to burning of indian flags and hoisting pakistan flag on aug 14 in Kashmir
 

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1 hans dont want to live in tibet doesnt mean we dont need tibet....even han soldiers dont want to go to tibet but they have their duties so they r sent to there...and u dont even know this? so does a hindu soldier goes to kashimir mean he will try to convert some muslims there to hindu??

2 hans look slightly different from area to area...mainly becoz weather conditions....what they eat etc etc.......so some may be taller than some others or skin may look brighter........but thats normal.......which can surely be obversed in other races.....how ever there r major differences between hans and some other races in china including tibetan by looking....u dont even look like han how do u becmoe 1?

3 tibet became part of china way early than the day u invaded kashmir.....learn some history my indian friend....
How about first answering the issue in Post 19?

It sums up the technique of Hansiation!

Now to answer you fresh queries.

1 hans dont want to live in tibet doesnt mean we dont need tibet....even han soldiers dont want to go to tibet but they have their duties so they r sent to there...and u dont even know this? so does a hindu soldier goes to kashimir mean he will try to convert some muslims there to hindu??
The logic is simple.

If you don't want to possess it and live there, then why possess?

Is it imperialism that you want to exhibit? Like the Europeans who possessed their colonies only to exploit the wealth of the colonies, but not settle down there. Their civil servants and soldiers only came to do their duty and not because they wanted to come to the colonies!!

Indian Army is not composed of Hindu soldiers alone. You have asked me to bone up on history, why do you exhibit and subscribe to the saying - charity begins at home!

2 hans look slightly different from area to area...mainly becoz weather conditions....what they eat etc etc.......so some may be taller than some others or skin may look brighter........but thats normal.......which can surely be obversed in other races.....how ever there r major differences between hans and some other races in china including tibetan by looking....u dont even look like han how do u becmoe 1?
So, now you come down to Mother Earth? Hans look dissimilar.

Well, Indians if they cannot understand how a Chinese looks and how a Tibetan looks, would also not know how the Chinese look different from each other, even if they call themselves Hans, when they actually are not so, but assimilated 'barbarians'.

So when the Northern Han does not look like the Southern assimilated Han, how can we call them Han, like you feel a Tibetan can't be called a Han even if he learns how to kowtow in perfect Han style!

3 tibet became part of china way early than the day u invaded kashmir.....learn some history my indian friend....
Your ignorance explodes!

On 23 May 1951, China annexed Tibet..

Kashmir was not annexed. It was as per the provisions of the Indian Independence Act of the British Parliament. The Ruler signed the Instrument of Accession on October 26 1947.
 

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tibetans look even different than hans and indians cant tell this but chinese can tell this very clearly. how can u look non-han but call urself han??

hans nomally dont even want to live in the oxegen lacked tibet area and vice versa tibetans normally will get sick living in areas other than tibet in PRC so how on earth hans r trying to assimilate tibetans?

in terms of chinese new year....its indeed by and large a han new year so many other races in china would like to become a part of it coz its public holiday etc but no 1 is doing this to assimilate other races at all......and u dont even know tibetan new year is always celebrated and PRC gov goes year after year 'happy tibetan new year'??
Completely agree.

Yet the CCP continually tries to assimilate these non-Han areas as somehow part of greater China - and not just Tibet, but Indian territory too!
 

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Diojiulnants (Teochius) and Hokkians people are the only real indigenous people of South Minnant Lands (Southern China) and Mainland Southeast Asia, whose homelands had been invaded by the Chinese Han, Chinese Tang, and Chinese Mongol-Manchu despotism, and subsequently made it possible for the flood of Ethnic Chinese Turk and Ethnic Indo-Malay population, more precisely over-population, to perenially encroached upon their hosts' - Indigenous Diojiulnants and Hokkians - land and history, people, language, and Culture.
 

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1 hans dont want to live in tibet doesnt mean we dont need tibet....even han soldiers dont want to go to tibet but they have their duties so they r sent to there...and u dont even know this? so does a hindu soldier goes to kashimir mean he will try to convert some muslims there to hindu??

2 hans look slightly different from area to area...mainly becoz weather conditions....what they eat etc etc.......so some may be taller than some others or skin may look brighter........but thats normal.......which can surely be obversed in other races.....how ever there r major differences between hans and some other races in china including tibetan by looking....u dont even look like han how do u becmoe 1?

3 tibet became part of china way early than the day u invaded kashmir.....learn some history my indian friend....
Yes, but it wasn't formed by Hans, unfortunately. The inclusion of Tibet as part of China was under Mongol rule - and you paint an extraordinary contradictory picture, claiming China is for the Hans (fine, whatever) but then agree with what is essentially a mass genocide of minorities whilst claiming their land... how does that make any sense?

As to your third point, WTH are you talking about, "Kashmir" was never invaded because it was never independant... how was it ever "invaded".

Minority culture is encouraged in India, and muslims are as integral part of us as anyone else... so I am unsure what you are referring to regarding your apparent sovereignity of Kashmir (maybe Chinese maps are continually redrawn?) and the apparent conversion of muslims to hindus
 

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This how the Northern Chinese are not similar to the Southern Chinese

 
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Han Chinese Y Chromosome Test Results

Han Chinese Y Chromosome Test Results

January 24, 2008 in China, Weird Science | Tags: anthropology, DNA, North China, South China, Y Chromosome

This is not shocking, I've seen many test results that show Northern Chinese tend to group with North East Asians (Japanese and Koreans) and Southern Chinese tend to group more with Southeast Asians. The populations also have distinct (but often overlapping) appearances. Many of my Chinese friends have told me it is due to diet and climate. I do not think so.

The early genetic research (The History and Geography of Human Genes, 1996) of Dr. Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza showed that Northern Chinese could be grouped with other Northeast Asians (Koreans, Tungusic groups, Japanese) and that Southern Chinese grouped more with Southeast Asians, making the Han Chinese aggregate an intermediate population between the two, which matches their location geographic location. This new report gives us some detail as to the way this population cline occurred.

Based on what I know of Chinese history, Southern China was settled by the Han much later than the North and the people in the South were considered "barbarian" referred to as the various types of "Yue" (known as the 100 Yue) in later times. Eventually the people region that became Guangdong and North Vietnam were referred to as (Nan Yue, or South Viet). Most of these people were likely Austroasiatic speakers in origin (like present day Vietnamese and Cambodians). Since Northern Vietnam (Annam) was part of China on and off for over 1,000 years; and the south, by the end of Chinese colonization was controlled by Champa, a Malay people (Austronesian).

As far as I know there was a massive influx of Han Chinese into the region during the Song Dynasty due to Barbarian pressure in the north. I know assimilation was fairly complete by the Tang Dynasty as Cantonese speakers often call themselves "Tong (Tang in Mandarin) People" and talk of giving their children "Tong names". They also still refer to their province and themselves as "Yue" to this day. I'm guessing by the Late Tang, the Sinization of the area was complete, but for Annam. Vietnam became independent from China after the disintegration of the Tang, since the "Viet or Yue" people lived in what is now Guangdong as well, I'm guessing by that time the people in Guangdong were mostly Sinized, and considered themselves Han Chinese, but most of the people further South did not.

Also, "South," in China is the area from Shanghai down to the border of the Southeast Asian nations of Laos and Vietnam.

Other nonHan ethnicities lived in the South, such as the Lao/Thai (Tai-Kadai language group) folks also came from Central China and were pushed South by the Han, they still have relatives in modern China like the Zhuang and Dong peoples.

To wrap it up, it is not shocking that Han men (like many men before them all over the world) would move to an area and take it over, while enslaving, killing, or running off the native men using their superior technology and social organization. Then they would marry, rape, or concubine the local women. Men, historically, are not picky about who they have sexual relations with. In a desperate spot any woman (even a barbarian) will do.

This new study provides more detail to earlier studies whose results where along the same lines.



European Journal of Human Genetics advance online publication 23 January 2008; doi: 10.1038/sj.ejhg.5201998
A spatial analysis of genetic structure of human populations in China reveals distinct difference between maternal and paternal lineages

Fuzhong Xue et al.

Analyses of archeological, anatomical, linguistic, and genetic data suggested consistently the presence of a significant boundary between the populations of north and south in China. However, the exact location and the strength of this boundary have remained controversial. In this study, we systematically explored the spatial genetic structure and the boundary of north–south division of human populations using mtDNA data in 91 populations and Y-chromosome data in 143 populations. Our results highlight a distinct difference between spatial genetic structures of maternal and paternal lineages.A substantial genetic differentiation between northern and southern populations is the characteristic of maternal structure, with a significant uninterrupted genetic boundary extending approximately along the Huai River and Qin Mountains north to Yangtze River. On the paternal side, however, no obvious genetic differentiation between northern and southern populations is revealed.

https://pmsol3.wordpress.com/2008/01/24/chinese-y-chromosome-testing/
 

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Anything you have to say to Post 19 or 28 to

1. State that the process of assimilation was not there and is still not there in Tibet.

2. That Hans are of the same racial stock and not also composed of assimilated 'barbarians' of areas not north of the Yellow River?
 

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Just an example of how it is obfuscated in China to call all Han even though statistically they are Hans because they were assimilated through various means, mostly foul!


Teochew can be romanised in a variety of schemes, and are known in Mandarin as Chaozhou ren and Cantonese as Chiuchao yan. In referring to themselves as ethnic Chinese, Teochew people generally use Deung nang (唐人; Mandarin: Tangren), literally Tang Dynasty people, as opposed to Hang nang (漢人/汉人; Mandarin: Hanren), which means 'Han Dynasty people'. Teochew people of the diaspora would generally use Hua nang (華人/华人; Mandarin: Huaren) to indicate Chinese heritage in a cultural sense.

Teochew people also commonly refer to each other as ga gi nang (自己人; Mandarin: zijiren) which means 'our own people'

To situate the term into a contemporary sociocultural context, Teochew people in Chaoshan of today refer to themselves as Chaoshan people, rather than Teochew people.

Historically, these people were called Helao or Fulao, as they came mostly from Henan and Shanxi via Fujian, with well-maintained language and customs from north-central China. As was recorded in pedigrees and ancient inscriptions, these people who had originally migrated to southern Fujian, especially from Quanzhou and Putian, made settlements toward Chaoshan in batches and soon spread all over the Chaoshan area.[when?] Geographic isolation and difficulty in traveling in the past made the Helao or Fulao become a relatively closed population. Recently, studies of genetic analysis supported that although all Han Chinese are indeed related and share a common root, the Teochew had closest links with the Minnan area of Fujian province and those from the Taihang Mountain range of north-central China.

They are known to Cantonese speakers as "Hoklo", literally meaning "men of Fujian", although the term "Teochew" is used in the Strait Settlements in the 19th century and early 20th century. "Teochew" is derived from Teochew prefecture (Chaozhou Fu) the departmental city where they originate.
 

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Threads of this kind are coming out every month, as punctual as female menstruation.
 

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Threads of this kind are coming out every month, as punctual as female menstruation.
as punctual as Chinese female menstruation cycles with their 1 child policy and what not.
 

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Threads of this kind are coming out every month, as punctual as female menstruation.
Speaking out of experience?

If the Chinese carry out atrocities as punctual as a woman's menstrual cycle,what can one do?

Maybe you are trying to use Tampax or Whisper or some such stuff.

Doesn't seem to be working!
 

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BTW Nimo, are you suggesting that the Tibetans were not killed?

On mensuration, I believe it is not so regular. There is a some variations. Correct me if I am wrong.

And yet the Chinese Govt, right to the dot, undertakes such atrocities and does not cater for some leeway. Correct me again, if I am wrong!
 
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out of frustration? life of tibetean is no less than life anyother human
 

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So much descent inside china and we dont sow any seeds of democracy in side china. They spread maoism inside india, we should train them to start a pro-democracy war inside China and get the communists out.
 

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You can't change the Chinese.

They believe the highest form of life is making MONEY.

And the equate Happiness with Money!
 

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Jewish own the world with money, not the Chinese... As a nation, we still have very long way to go.
 

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