The Taiwan Issue: 85% Taiwanese do not want to join China

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KMT is pro-China, but not pro One-China. Hence the survey should be taken with a pinch of salt.
There can never be a taiwanese leader who believe in one China policy, he will lose support of 85% of the people and support of USA and Japan.
 

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F-16 Fighters for Taiwan: It's Time to Send Beijing a Message

Imagine you were a Chinese leader in Beijing trying to gauge U.S. resolve, and this is what you saw. Despite decades of currency manipulation by China that has destroyed millions of U.S. jobs, Washington declines to label Beijing a currency manipulator. Despite Chinese theft of intellectual property that the International Trade Commission says cost U.S. companies $48 billion in 2009 alone, Washington declines to press Beijing for reform. Despite millions of Chinese attempts to penetrate U.S. information networks every day, Washington declines to blame Beijing. Despite repeated pleas from Taiwan for help in replacing aging fighters, Washington refuses to act for fear of offending Beijing.

The message these actions send to Chinese leaders is unmistakable: Washington is afraid of Beijing. It's afraid the biggest overseas holder of U.S. debt will stop taking more American I.O.U.'s. It's afraid the world's fastest-growing economy will discriminate against U.S. companies. And it's afraid that meeting America's defensive commitments to Taiwan will lead the Chinese to pour even more money into their current military buildup. That buildup is already fielding super-quiet submarines, anti-satellite weapons, stealthy strike aircraft and maneuvering ballistic-missile warheads that can hit U.S. warships -- weapons clearly designed to exclude U.S. forces from the Western Pacific in the future.

Washington's passivity is emboldening China. It is also sending precisely the wrong message to local allies such as Japan, Singapore and South Korea who need reassurances that China's drive for regional dominance will be curbed. America can't afford to let China dominate a region that is fast becoming the industrial heartland of the global economy, and yet the White House has failed to signal resolve as China exercises it growing power. A clear, tangible message needs to be sent that America has run out of patience with Chinese behavior.

The easiest way to send that message is to help Taiwan meet its defensive needs by allowing the island republic to replace aging tactical aircraft with new F-16 fighters. Forty-five U.S. Senators sent a letter to the White House demanding that on May 26, pointing out that Taiwan needs to retire 70 percent of its fighters over the next decade and the remaining fighters -- 150 earlier versions of the F-16 in need of upgrades -- are not adequate to maintain a military balance across the Taiwan Strait. Taiwan's government has repeatedly sought the opportunity to buy newer versions of the F-16, and it has repeatedly been rebuffed. It only wants 66 of the fighters and they don't begin to approach the capabilities of the latest U.S. fighters, but they're good enough to prevent a successful invasion by China.

If Washington fails to act, it won't just send the wrong message to everyone in the region; it will increase the likelihood American warfighters may soon be called on to protect an endangered democracy that could have defended itself if our leaders had agreed to provide the necessary tools.

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F-16 Fighters for Taiwan: It's Time to Send Beijing a Message

Imagine you were a Chinese leader in Beijing trying to gauge U.S. resolve, and this is what you saw. Despite decades of currency manipulation by China that has destroyed millions of U.S. jobs, Washington declines to label Beijing a currency manipulator. Despite Chinese theft of intellectual property that the International Trade Commission says cost U.S. companies $48 billion in 2009 alone, Washington declines to press Beijing for reform. Despite millions of Chinese attempts to penetrate U.S. information networks every day, Washington declines to blame Beijing. Despite repeated pleas from Taiwan for help in replacing aging fighters, Washington refuses to act for fear of offending Beijing.

The message these actions send to Chinese leaders is unmistakable: Washington is afraid of Beijing. It's afraid the biggest overseas holder of U.S. debt will stop taking more American I.O.U.'s. It's afraid the world's fastest-growing economy will discriminate against U.S. companies. And it's afraid that meeting America's defensive commitments to Taiwan will lead the Chinese to pour even more money into their current military buildup. That buildup is already fielding super-quiet submarines, anti-satellite weapons, stealthy strike aircraft and maneuvering ballistic-missile warheads that can hit U.S. warships -- weapons clearly designed to exclude U.S. forces from the Western Pacific in the future.

Washington's passivity is emboldening China. It is also sending precisely the wrong message to local allies such as Japan, Singapore and South Korea who need reassurances that China's drive for regional dominance will be curbed. America can't afford to let China dominate a region that is fast becoming the industrial heartland of the global economy, and yet the White House has failed to signal resolve as China exercises it growing power. A clear, tangible message needs to be sent that America has run out of patience with Chinese behavior.

The easiest way to send that message is to help Taiwan meet its defensive needs by allowing the island republic to replace aging tactical aircraft with new F-16 fighters. Forty-five U.S. Senators sent a letter to the White House demanding that on May 26, pointing out that Taiwan needs to retire 70 percent of its fighters over the next decade and the remaining fighters -- 150 earlier versions of the F-16 in need of upgrades -- are not adequate to maintain a military balance across the Taiwan Strait. Taiwan's government has repeatedly sought the opportunity to buy newer versions of the F-16, and it has repeatedly been rebuffed. It only wants 66 of the fighters and they don't begin to approach the capabilities of the latest U.S. fighters, but they're good enough to prevent a successful invasion by China.

If Washington fails to act, it won't just send the wrong message to everyone in the region; it will increase the likelihood American warfighters may soon be called on to protect an endangered democracy that could have defended itself if our leaders had agreed to provide the necessary tools.

Defenseblog-njs.blogspot.com
There are way too many message sent in the past, don't you think so?
one more or not makes no difference
 

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Most Taiwanese have a much more favourable view of Japan and Japanese than they do of China. Unlike the two Koreas, Taiwan did not went about dismantling the symbols of Imperial Japanese colonisation post 1949.
 

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Part of the reason is that Japan's occupation of Taiwan was relatively benign compared to its occupation of Korea and China.
 

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Part of the reason is that Japan's occupation of Taiwan was relatively benign compared to its occupation of Korea and China.
Not really. Japanese treated those aboriginals (non Han) very brutally as animals, with chemical weapons. They coerced or lured one tribe to attack another and recruited tribals to fight in SE Asia. Some tribes even had gone to the extent of extinction.
 

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Oh. I did not know that. I only remember reading that the Taiwanese associated the Japanese with modernity, sophistication, and civility. It was popular at one time for Taiwanese students to study Japanese as their second language.
 

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Not really. Japanese treated those aboriginals (non Han) very brutally as animals, with chemical weapons. They coerced or lured one tribe to attack another and recruited tribals to fight in SE Asia. Some tribes even had gone to the extent of extinction.
BUt in the end Taiwanese in general still viewed Japan rather favourably. This is just so unfair when come to think of it the CCP never got a chance to gas the Taiwanese... :rofl:
 
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BUt in the end Taiwanese in general still viewed Japan rather favourably. This is just so unfair when come to think of it the CCP never got a chance to gas the Taiwanese... :rofl:
I don't think u're smart enough to drag in CCP to every case u lay your touch upon.

They're 2 things in parallel, let me help u to sort out.
1) Q: Was Japan's rule in TW benign? A: No
2) Q: Do Taiwanese view Japan favourably? A: Yes. Even many mainlanders see Japan positively to a degree. My brothers spent **years in JP.

I only remember reading that the Taiwanese associated the Japanese with modernity, sophistication, and civility.
Agreed
 

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Another reason that Taiwan and Japan's bilateral relationship has been so positive is that successive Taiwanese heads of state have held a positive view of Japan. Lee Teng-hui (Taiwan's President 1988-2000) represents a generation of Taiwanese who received their education from Japan during the colonial period (1895-1945) and who speak Japanese fluently. Lee's successor, Chen Shui-bian, from Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) also held a favorable view of Japan and sought closer security ties with Tokyo.

Consider that a survey conducted by the Interchange Association Japan, Japan's de facto embassy in Taiwan, found that 65 percent of Taiwanese feel either "close" or "really close" to Japan, which stands in stark contrast to China where over 90 percent of Chinese have either an "unfavorable" or "relatively unfavorable" opinions of Japan.

Indeed, Japan is overwhelmingly the most popular country among Taiwanese. When asked what their favorite country was in the same survey, 43 percent said Japan, while only single digits said Singapore, the U.S. or China. The support for Japan is even stronger among Taiwanese aged 20-29, with 54 percent of respondents in that age group listing Japan as their favorite foreign country. By contrast, only 2 percent of respondents between ages of 20 and 29 said China was their favorite foreign country.

A Japanese Foreign Ministry report on Taiwan-Japan relations reveals some of the reasons why Japan is viewed so favorable among Taiwanese. For example, 67 percent of Japanese say they feel either "very close" or "really close" to Taiwan, while tourism reached 1.5 million people in 2012.

This cordiality between the Japanese and Taiwanese people has virtually eliminated any anti-Japanese sentiment in Taiwan, as exemplified by the amount of (mostly private) donations Taiwanese made to Japan in the aftermath of the 3/11 earthquake and tsunami. There is also an aspect of positive interpretation of common history. It is former President Lee's generation that maintains a generally positive interpretation of the colonial period, which compares favorable for many Taiwanese with the period of White Terror brought about by the Kuomintang after its retreat to Taiwan in 1949. But, as noted above, there is an immense support for Japan among younger population too. And that translates into great popularity of Japanese products. Young Taiwanese prefer to use Line over WhatsApp and WeChat for their instant messaging, Japan-born Hello Kitty is omnipresent on the streets in Taiwan, and Japanese anime has a large fan base in Taiwan. The positive ideas about history meet widespread admiration for Japanese cultural artifacts and fashion designs.

The friendship is not a top-down driven process; it goes well both ways and it makes Taiwan an outlier among Japan's neighbors. Japanese, for their part, feel Taiwan's positivity and reciprocate accordingly. From the perspective of Taiwan's relations with China, partnership with Japan provides additional security while extensive people-to-people contacts make Japan perhaps the friendliest nation regarding Taiwan's de facto independence. From the vantage point of Taiwan-U.S. relations, Japan's genuine interest in preserving Taiwan's status quo is complementary to the U.S. interests in protecting Japan. Moreover, regional efforts to strengthen the bilateral relationship are in line with declared U.S. policy of rebalancing to Asia and its "alliance network." But all that stands on a solid and extensive networks of people-to-people contacts between the two island nations.
The Odd Couple: Japan & Taiwan's Unlikely Friendship | The Diplomat
 

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BUt in the end Taiwanese in general still viewed Japan rather favourably. This is just so unfair when come to think of it the CCP never got a chance to gas the Taiwanese...
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WTF.....Taiwan reuniting with China...Why ?

Why would Taiwan that has a better, freer, more open, more prosperous, cleaner, more innovative society want to merge with a bunch of paranoid CCP despots ? What’s the upside ?

You would have to be freaking nuts. The Taiwanese are rich enough and have world class leading industrial base. Why would they abandon their independence and freedom to merge with China.

All they have to do is fly to Hong Kong and ask the Hong Kong Chinese how they feel about reunification.
 

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Exclusive: U.S. pursues sale of over $2 billion in weapons to Taiwan, sources say, angering Chinaf

The potential sale included
108 General Dynamics Corp M1A2 Abrams tanks worth around $2 billion as well as anti-tank and anti-aircraft munitions, three of the sources said. Taiwan has been interested in refreshing its existing U.S.-made battle tank inventory, which includes M60 Patton tanks.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1T62CA
 

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Why would Taiwanese want to merge their country with China?

They are a very successful nation and probably don't want to be just another slave to CCP.

@asianobserve How are Japanese-Philipino relations?
 

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I was reading this post on my apple smartphone and this issue between China and Taiwan had always been disturbing. Can CCP leave Taiwan alone? :tsk:
Nop never Chinese want to be a superpower first step of reaching that goal is destroy the negative elements which are near you and have full influence on the nations surrounding you.
Just like Americans have. Or like soviets who tried to over shadow whole Europe. Chinese are trying just that. And india is trying this to but as a soft power.

Taiwan is the biggest negative power against Chinese and pose a serious ideological threat to communist Chinese government.
And india is Chinese biggest enemy because we also try to gain influence on states which are near us. Which questions the Chinese power.
 

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I don't think u're smart enough to drag in CCP to every case u lay your touch upon.

They're 2 things in parallel, let me help u to sort out.
1) Q: Was Japan's rule in TW benign? A: No
2) Q: Do Taiwanese view Japan favourably? A: Yes. Even many mainlanders see Japan positively to a degree. My brothers spent **years in JP.

Agreed
So what's wrong with China ?

Why are they interfering and try to capture another country ?

Or its the Han Chinese who are psychotic ?
 

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