The super ship fit for a superpower

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u looks too much knw abt indian economy our economy is not export based ..dometic market based govt wrong policy hampers the growth..we will be back in track soon..& 13 billion if we can buy 100 rafales with near 13 billon we can also make such ac..but we donrt need such huge machine..we r not global police:taunt:
Oh God!!No wonder we are regressing!!:facepalm:
 

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What if we can buy that super carrier. But the real problem what i see is, do we have a capability to escort that kind of huge island.

i mean after getting that AC we will need a precise defence network of escorts. which can protect it from every attack.

Since china's AC killer DF-21D (ASBM, 3000km with speed of mach 10 ) has been stated deadlier by many defence experts. so first of all we will need a defence network capable enough to tackle it. and US navy has such potential to counter such advance attack. But IN still lacks such precise network (correct me if i am wrong).

so before getting such AC first we will have to get advance defence system of escorts which can be probably put some pressure to our economy.
Just to correct one thing: DF21D is weapon aiming to keep US carriers out of 2000km-3000km since PLAAF can't match the combined air force of 6 US carriers.

But if Indian navy wants to do the same thing--coming close to Chinese coast, it is more likely to face Chinese bombers instead of missile!
 

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We will use Atleast a decade of AC where our Neighbours didn't..The Chinese Scared Japanese LHD they scared of our Vikranth AC.operating a Huge 1000 ft long carrier means slapping directly to China's Face
India navy can easily face any possible challenge from China in Indian Ocean, even if you don't have any carrier.
Even if you have 4 carriers, Chinese can easily kill them if you send them into West pacific.

By the way a huge 1000 ft long carriers means slappng directly to India's economy more likely!
 

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Just to correct one thing: DF21D is weapon aiming to keep US carriers out of 2000km-3000km since PLAAF can't match the combined air force of 6 US carriers.

But if Indian navy wants to do the same thing--coming close to Chinese coast, it is more likely to face Chinese bombers instead of missile!
Bombers what you Mean..Does your Bombers withstand against our MiG 29 from Vikky.also the US didn't send their Carriers without Ageis Ships And recently they shown their capacity defeating barrage of two BM's
 

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India navy can easily face any possible challenge from China in Indian Ocean, even if you don't have any carrier.
Even if you have 4 carriers, Chinese can easily kill them if you send them into West pacific.

By the way a huge 1000 ft long carriers means slappng directly to India's economy more likely!
What you Mean by Economy

Pls tell me the Operating cost of Chakra and Vikky and compare them with a Nimitz
 

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Deep down inside you wish India is... :rolleyes:
I think you mean 'regional police'.

If you remember, we are in the most dangerous place on earth: 2 nuclear power nations are our immediate neighbours: one an expansionist, absolutist and aggressive and another, the biggest manufacturer of jihadi terrorism on the planet with a government that protects it with a nuclear umbrella.

To be a superpower here, you just need to be able to police our region. That's equal to policing all the other troubled countries put together.
 

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Bombers what you Mean..Does your Bombers withstand against our MiG 29 from Vikky.also the US didn't send their Carriers without Ageis Ships And recently they shown their capacity defeating barrage of two BM's
How many Mig 29 can you have after fighting with 400 J-10, J-11, J11B?

Yes, US may be able to defeat 2 BM, but what about 20 at the same time? Meanwhile they may not be able to get satelite support considering that Chinese already developed anti-satelite weapons.
 

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How many Mig 29 can you have after fighting with 400 J-10, J-11, J11B?

Yes, US may be able to defeat 2 BM, but what about 20 at the same time? Meanwhile they may not be able to get satelite support considering that Chinese already developed anti-satelite weapons.
here I'm talking about Fighters from the Carriers not from Air force Bases .400 Junk 10,11, from.where they taking off from Liang ..Na na You.can't able to perform mission abroad from your Aircraft Carrier.


why not 40 just 20 Upto 3 Ageis destroyers it's enough to destroy your entire DF 21.And Your ASAT Weapons are Crazy ..Americans is the Baap in the Space they started it in near the 2005's

Arms Race in Outer Space

www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/weekinreview/09myers.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

these articles are 5 years old and you know about YAL lasers too
 

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here I'm talking about Fighters from the Carriers not from Air force Bases .400 Junk 10,11, from.where they taking off from Liang ..Na na You.can't able to perform mission abroad from your Aircraft Carrier.
Here I am talking about fighters from Chinese air force bases because we won't send carrier to challenge you in near future simply because we can't win. So the only chance that we will face your carrier threat is you to come to western pacific.


why not 40 just 20 Upto 3 Ageis destroyers it's enough to destroy your entire DF 21.And Your ASAT Weapons are Crazy ..Americans is the Baap in the Space they started it in near the 2005's

Arms Race in Outer Space

www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/weekinreview/09myers.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

these articles are 5 years old and you know about YAL lasers too
Well, if americans share your confidence, they certainly will come closer. Who knows.
 

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Here I am talking about fighters from Chinese air force bases because we won't send carrier to challenge you in near future simply because we can't win. So the only chance that we will face your carrier threat is you to come to western pacific.
What's about your Fighters do when our Aircrafts doing some Anti shipping Mission in the sea from Our Vikky


Well, if americans share your confidence, they certainly will come closer. Who knows

American's are the Guys who makes dreams to other countries just like when they rolled out SR 71 and F117
 

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What's about your Fighters do when our Aircrafts doing some Anti shipping Mission in the sea from Our Vikky
That will depends where they are.
If in IOC, these fighters will do nothing because Chinese will laugh their ass off since they can hire any third country boat to transport the goods they need or sell.
If in South China sea, then good luck.

American's are the Guys who makes dreams to other countries just like when they rolled out SR 71 and F117
Yes, but doesn't mean their boats are unsinkable.
 

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That will depends where they are.
If in IOC, these fighters will do nothing because Chinese will laugh their ass off since they can hire any third country boat to transport the goods they need or sell.
If in South China sea, then good luck.
Vikky is not a Cargo or a Cruise ship to sail towards IOR ..it's an Warship always heating Enemies A$$


Yes, but doesn't mean their boats are unsinkable.
So there is Nothing to be un deflatable
 

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Just to correct one thing: DF21D is weapon aiming to keep US carriers out of 2000km-3000km since PLAAF can't match the combined air force of 6 US carriers.

But if Indian navy wants to do the same thing--coming close to Chinese coast, it is more likely to face Chinese bombers instead of missile!
first time in my life i am hearing of bombers attacking an aircraft carrier.:shocked:
aircraft carriers won't be sitting at one place to be bombed and they will be having formidable defences against airborne threats.

if you do not mean regular bombers and you mean the bombers of su- russian series,i seriously doubt the cheap russian copies are that potent to take of with full load to an acc that too with barak sams(in future)....

better stick to df-21d which is real than your conceptual bombers
 

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Vikky is not a Cargo or a Cruise ship to sail towards IOR ..it's an Warship always heating Enemies A$$
It can do something in IOC with the protection of IAF. But in Western pacific, it has to handle hundredes of hostile bombers and fighters, Vikky will be the one get its ass burned.

So there is Nothing to be un deflatable
You can boast it when it is deployed close to our coast line.
 

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first time in my life i am hearing of bombers attacking an aircraft carrier.:shocked:
aircraft carriers won't be sitting at one place to be bombed and they will be having formidable defences against airborne threats.
Ever heard of mid-way battle?
You don't have formidable defences? Unless you can send a huge fleet with at least 6 aircraft carriers as US navy planned.

if you do not mean regular bombers and you mean the bombers of su- russian series,i seriously doubt the cheap russian copies are that potent to take of with full load to an acc that too with barak sams(in future)....

better stick to df-21d which is real than your conceptual bombers
DF-21D is for USN which is planning to send at least 6 carriers with 90 airplanes on each of them. The goal of DF21D is not to sink these boats but keeping them out of battle area.
For India 2 small carriers with totally no more than 120 planes, we prefer sinking them straight away.
 

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