The Spy ChroniclesRAW, ISI and the Illusion of Peace

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Gone through multiple sections fron book..ASD's behavior was like he ia deputy of Durrani... unconditionally accepted whatever Durrani's point of view.. but seems Durrani will be in lot of trouble as publishing book with enemy didn't go well in common public and army..
 

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Indians are falling all over themselves over this "exposé". When will we realise that Pakistan is a snake inside a snake inside another snake, which goes down a rabbit-role?

Facts:

1) The book seems to have no specific, definite admission. It makes ISI sound like it made a lot of "mistakes" and "miscalculations". However we all know that these things cannot work unless everyone is in the know and entire units of people move in perfect unison to make complex operations happen. The idea is to deflect blame to either retired officers, incompetent/discredited officers, political system - all of which are inconsequential now and will not make any difference to the incumbent decision-makers.

2) Agreed with @katiyarash - Dulat acts like a servile little pet dog of Durrani. It's very easy for Porkistan to co-opt Indians - look at how China co-opted people like Shivshankar Menon. We've had some pretty amazing RAW chiefs since independence, but Dulat is just a sniveling little maidservant (unless he's playing a subtle next-level game by goading Durrani to admit to things he shouldn't admit to, by vigorously agreeing with him at every step?).

3) Of course they all hate Doval - he doesn't compromise. This refers both to moles in our system (Menon, Congressis, etc) and Pakistan. There was a lot of give-and-take with Pakistan in the past, where those in power in India would feign ignorance or turn a blind eye to Pakistan's mischief for political or personal convenience. Those days are over.
 

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Can somebody explain what was the Musharraf s four point formula for solving Indo Pak problems. ??? TIA
 

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Can somebody explain what was the Musharraf s four point formula for solving Indo Pak problems. ??? TIA
Some thing like borders will be removed, people will walk free, defece, foreign policy and police with respective parties etc.
 

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Dulat in the book said that If India Appease Pakistan Army (A red Carpet for Bajwa) than relations may improve. Civilian government has no role in Indo Pak relations. It is the rogue Pakistani Army which has final word in this regards.
 

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Pakistanion ki to phati padi hai....................:pound::pound:

The only thing which surprises me about this book is that it's pdf version is available free of cost.
 

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The real question is does this has any impact on FATF outcome on pak.

If Pak still doesn't gat blacklisted then what will make it to do so!?
 

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Lt Gen Asad Durrani, Retired was called at GHQ today to explain his position on recently launched book ‘Spy Chronicles’. A formal Court of Inquiry headed by a serving Lt Gen has been ordered to probe the matter in detail. Competent authority approached to place his name on ECL.

 

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Nawaz demands formation of commission on Asad Durani's recent revelations
 

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Nawaz demands formation of commission on Asad Durani's recent revelations
Ex-ISI chief’s book has benefitted Sharif: experts
By Qadeer Tanoli
Published: May 28, 2018
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Lt Gen (retd) Asad Durrani. PHOTO: EXPRESS/ZAFAR ASLAM

ISLAMABAD .: Experts on defence matters believe that Lt General (retd) Asad Durrani’s revelations in a controversial book which is coauthored by him and an ex-RAW chief has benefitted former prime minister Nawaz Sharif to a great extent who has been facing severe criticism for his comment on the Mumbai attack in a newspaper interview.

Brigadier (retd) Said Nazir Mohmand on Sunday told The Express Tribune that in the wake of the ‘book’ Sharif seems to be the beneficiary as the former ISI chief has directly talked about the issues.

“Indian spy agency RAW and ISI have been fighting against each other since long and now ISI’s former boss talks about some controversial matters. Now the criticism will be diverted to Pakistan army, pressing it to keep its own house in order,” Nazir highlighted.



GHQ summons ex-ISI chief over ‘Spy Chronicles’

He [Durrani] has also been summoned by the Pakistan Army at the General Headquarters (GHQ) on Monday (today) to explain his position on the views attributed to him in his book.

Former ISI chief Asad Durrani’s new book titled The Spy Chronicles: RAW, ISI and the Illusion of Peace, co-authored with former RAW chief Amarjit Singh Dulat and journalist Aditya Sinha was recently published which sparked a lot of debate.

Nazir said Durrani unveiled some top events in Pakistan which were highly classified.

“The former RAW chief has been very guarded while Durrani has been extrovert as such topics have opened a Pandora’s Box,” Nazir observed.

He revealed that track-two diplomacy was in place since long aimed at averting war between the two arch rivals. The basic idea of this book is to discuss steps which could help avert surgical strikes on behalf of India if untoward incidents like Mumbai attacks happen again, Nazir added.

Former top sleuth defends ‘Spy Chronicles’

Another defence analyst Khalid Muhammad told The Express Tribunethat looking at former DG-ISI’s collaborative book with the former RAW chief “it is hard not to consider the timing and the content.”

“While the book is formulated as a discussion between two former intelligence chiefs, we have to understand with the current climate against Pakistan, this book is a landmine.”

“With the elections on horizon, Durrani’s statements paint a very negative image of the Pakistan Army and the ISI in relation to events that happened in the past and continue to affect Pakistan’s domestic and regional policy,” Muhammad stated.

According to him who is also the writer of a well-known spy novel, Agency Rules, it should also be taken into consideration that he [Durrani] did not leave Pakistan Army under stellar conditions. He was deposed as DG-ISI and forced to retire early.

If politicians co-authored a book with Indians, they would be charged with treason: Rabbani

He said additionally, with the Asghar Khan case reaching its logical end and the potential prison sentences arising, it seems that the retired general wanted to clear his conscience as he has done in the past on domestic and international television channels.

“Whether his statements are taken seriously, or from the point of view of someone who was in the most powerful seat in Pakistan, the statements made in the discussion presented in the book are going to be difficult for any Pakistani to absorb or accept,” he said.

While responding to a question he said India would be the actual beneficiary after publishing of the book. Sharif will be benefited indirectly because attention has been diverted to the Army rather than keeping it firmly focused on him, he said, adding that “it will add more weight to Sharif’s argument of an over-active army over here.”
 

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Just a publicity stunt by Dullat and Durrani. Dullat likes more lime light and talking. He wants to show off .

I would just say that Durrani was way more successful than his counter part, although a junior fellow AS Dullat ,during his tenure. 1990-1992. Kashmir was burning and guess who was the mastermind, it was Durrani. Him being a chief, gave very tough time to India. And he was DG MI too from 1988-1989.

Where as Dullat remained a stooge of Congress. It was during his tenure only when RAW failed to get input on Kargil incursion and not just that, India faced a lot during his time. He is just an incompetent man trying to act like a tough boy.

Just see the personalities of both in their interviews the way they talk. You will get to know what these Dullat type incompetent officers made India suffer.
 

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