The Rise of China : Strategic Implications.

What does china fear most militarily and socially as a threat to its security and stability?


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amoy

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NATO submit will be held next month in UK and i think that 2 foremost subjects would be instated, including the catastrophes occurring in Ukraine and Iraq/Syria. I had heard that all the NATO members will be reassured to increase the defence budget to 2% of GDP. I reckon the US will slowly withdraw it's hard power, troops and influence from the middle east region and this role will be handed over to Europe, which will allow the US to shift more of it's power to the east and focus on China predominantly. This will be a positive news to those hoping for US protection and deployment in south east Asia.
:lol: this role will be handed over to Europe? I guess u refer to Mid East and Ukraine. So will u send boots on ground of Iraq, Syria and Ukraine to tackle such challenges?

And u can see below, defence budgets of main pillars like UK and France are already above 2% of GDP.



More military spendings out of your pockets don't sound heartening to Europeans who struggle for economic recovery, in addition to the double edged sword - sanctions on Russia.



And in Asia Pacific, what US can is not much different from what it's doing in Ukraine - no more than lip service plus a few P-8A prying. In defiance China is speeding up the build-up of South China Sea reefs into Diego Garcia of her own.
 
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BBC News - Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying weapons
Colombian officials say they have detained the captain of a China-flagged ship bound for Cuba for illegally carrying explosives and other arms. The attorney general's office said the ship was stopped over the weekend in the Caribbean port of Cartagena.

Officials said about 100 tons of gunpowder, almost three million detonators and some 3,000 cannon shells were found on board.The ship's records said it was carrying grain products.

"The documentation that the captain had in regards to the merchandise that was being transported did not correspond to what we found," said Luiz Gonzalez, national director of the Colombian attorney general's office. He said the Chinese captain, Wu Hong, would be charged with weapons trafficking. The ship was been impounded and searched for 48 hours before the order for the arrest of the captain was made.
Hmm...what was this doing there?
 

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Why is Narendra Modi going to China? - Livemint

Barely eight months after Chinese President Xi Jinping's India trip, Prime Minister Narendra Modi will shortly make a return visit to China. China's intrusion into Chumar—one of its biggest incursions ever—coincided with Xi's arrival, representing his birthday gift for Modi, who turned 64 on that day. Given that Beijing has only hardened its border stance and taken other unfriendly actions, why is Modi paying a return visit so soon after Xi's trip?
Normally, a return visit to any country should be undertaken only after preparatory work indicates the trip could tangibly advance the bilateral relationship. Modi's trip, however, holds little prospect for achieving a more balanced and stable relationship or making progress on resolving land and water disputes and correcting an increasingly lopsided trade relationship. Given the limited time, no real groundwork has been done to ensure that the visit yields enduring results.
Beijing has only been queering the pitch for Modi's visit. Its reaction to Modi's Arunachal Pradesh tour in February to open two development projects was unparalleled. Over two days, China fulminated against India, with the Indian ambassador being summarily summoned, the Chinese vice-foreign minister speaking scathingly, and the Chinese foreign ministry posting a condemnatory press release on its website.
Worse still, Beijing, in a little-noticed action, used this occasion to escalate its stance on Arunachal. The Chinese vice-foreign minister brusquely told the Indian ambassador that the Modi visit undermined "China's territorial sovereignty, right and interests" and that it "violates the consensus to appropriately handle the border issue". In other words, Beijing claimed that Arunachal was no longer just a disputed territory but China's sovereign territory and contrived a "consensus" against an Indian leader visiting that northeastern state.
Actually, China's creep began in 2006 when, for the first time, it claimed Arunachal as South Tibet. It has since cooked up Tibetan names for invented subdivisions of Arunachal to draw attention to the state's purported Tibetan identity, even though the Dalai Lama has publicly said that Arunachal historically was not part of Tibet. In 20 its February admonition to India, Beijing alleged the "so-called Arunachal Pradesh" was established largely in the "three areas of China's Tibet—Monyul, Loyul and Lower Tsayul" and claimed these "had always been Chinese territory".
What was India's reaction to Beijing's serially grating statements on Arunachal, including accusing Modi of breaching an ostensible "consensus"? Conspicuous silence. Modi's government, however, went ahead and scheduled its maiden round of border talks with China in New Delhi in March, instead of postponing it. Emboldened, Beijing mounted pressure on two fronts—just before and after the border talks, intruding Chinese forces had face-offs with Indian troops in Ladakh's Depsang plateau; and, without cause, China raked up the Arunachal issue again.
In April, Beijing claimed it is an "undeniable fact" that there is a "huge dispute" over Arunachal. The undeniable fact is actually the converse: that the "huge dispute" is really about Tibet since all Chinese claims flow from that. Tibet remains at the core of the India-China divide.
Consider yet another hostile action: Chinese intelligence, playing an active role, got nine insurgent groups from India's northeast recently to meet in Myanmar and form a united front. And just before hosting Modi, Xi has travelled to Pakistan where he signed agreements valued at $28 billion and unveiled the development of a Kashgar-Gwadar land corridor to the Indian Ocean that will challenge India in its own maritime backyard.
Yet, mum's the word for India. It would seem that safeguarding Modi's visit has trumped the strategic imperative to respond diplomatically to China's antagonistic actions. These actions cannot but embarrass Modi, who is still courting Beijing.
For example, how is India planning to respond to China's stapled-visa policy towards Arunachal residents? Not in kind, such as by introducing stapled visas for the Tibetan plateau's Han settlers, but by bestowing a reward: e-visa on arrival for Chinese nationals. Such an overture, even if continuing the Indian tradition since 1949 of going overboard to befriend China, signals that India remains hobbled by low self-esteem and a subaltern mindset.
A resurgent India would shine a spotlight on the core dispute by slowly reopening the Tibet issue and reclaiming its lost leverage. After all, China has trampled on its pledge to respect Tibet's autonomy. Yet, without inviting any reprisal, China continues to squeeze a defensive India. The fact that India does not take its claim to Aksai Chin or Pakistan-held Kashmir seriously encourages China to enlarge its strategic footprint in the Pakistani part of Kashmir and to step up incursions into Ladakh from the Chinese-occupied portion of Kashmir.
In the absence of goal-oriented statecraft, Indian diplomacy has long been shaped by personalities at the helm. Their propensity to act in haste and repent at leisure has been legendary, as India has ignored the sound advice of Talleyrand, Napoleon's famous foreign minister: "By no means show too much zeal." Zeal, especially in the form of diplomatic surprises and unilateral gestures, is a trademark of the Modi foreign policy. Indeed, Modi is going to China because he gratuitously told Xi he would pay a return visit before completing his first year in office. With such a schmaltzy approach, can India stand up for its interests and make China walk its talk?
Brahma Chellaney is a professor of strategic studies at the Centre for Policy Research.
India needs to highlight Tibet issue more.
 

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Promotional video of CCNP(may not be entirely on topic)
 
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Can we start the Fall of China thread yet? Their economy is collapsing all around them.
 

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China blocks India's move in UN seeking action against Pakistan on Lakhvi

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...t-Pakistan-on-Lakhvi/articleshow/47781771.cms

UNITED NATIONS: China has blocked India's move in the UN demanding action against Pakistan over release of Mumbai attack mastermind and LeT commander Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi in violation of a resolution of the world body as it contended that India provided insufficient information.

As the UN sanctions committee met here at India's request, a clarification was to be sought from Pakistan over Lakhvi's release in the 26/11 trial but the Chinese representatives blocked the move on grounds that India did not provide sufficient information, official sources said.

In a letter to the current chair of the UN sanctions committee Jim McLay, India's permanent representative to the UN Asoke Mukherjee last month had said Lakhvi's release by a Pakistani court was in violation of the 1267 UN resolution dealing with designated entities and individuals.

The sanctions measures apply to designated individuals and entities associated with terror groups including al-Qaeda and LeT, wherever located.

The sanctions' committee has five permanent and 10 non-permanent UN member states in it.

The release of Lakhvi had also raised concerns in the US, UK, Russia, France and Germany with Washington calling for him to be re-arrested.

Lakhvi and six others — Abdul Wajid, Mazhar Iqbal, Hamad Amin Sadiq, Shahid Jameel Riaz, Jamil Ahmed and Younis Anjum — have been charged with planning and executing the Mumbai attack in November, 2008 that left 166 people dead.

Lakhvi, 55, a close relative of LeT founder and Jamaat—Ud Dawa (JuD) chief Hafiz Saeed, was arrested in December 2008 and was indicted along with the six others on November 25, 2009 in connection with the 26/11 attack case. The trial has been underway since 2009.

A Pakistani court had on April 9 set free Lakhvi, a development which India said "eroded" the value of assurances repeatedly conveyed to it by Pakistan on cross—border terrorism.
 

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Its confusing ..to say the least. Today, on one hand, China has opened the road thru Nathu La pass for Indian pilgrims to visit ManSarovar lake. Chines are welcoming Indians with blankets, food, flowers etc. when they cross the border to go to ManSarovar.
On the other hand, China blocking action against a Paki terrorist in the UN. Can someone explain this discrepancy in behavior ?
 

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Its confusing ..to say the least. Today, on one hand, China has opened the road thru Nathu La pass for Indian pilgrims to visit ManSarovar lake. Chines are welcoming Indians with blankets, food, flowers etc. when they cross the border to go to ManSarovar.
On the other hand, China blocking action against a Paki terrorist in the UN. Can someone explain this discrepancy in behavior ?
That is called "Muh mein Ram, bagal mein churi".
 

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No political or diplomatic pressure will work on China.

Just stop buying from China all that cheap stuff at very favourable Dollar-Yuan exchange rate. That will work, when millions get unemployed as there is no export market left.

Why US is not doing it, because US economy will require two trillion dollars to build industry from ground up to make products themselves. That will be inflationary and stock market and banks would crash.

Alternative is to invest that money in India or other Asian economies with cheap labour, but that will not be inflationary but time consuming. It took China 30 years to take off, it will take similar time to make lesser economies to take off.

It is American choice, whether they wish a military confrontation with China or slowly weed China out of the market hold it has on consumer goods in the West. Other countries are waiting if US wish to excrcises that option or make it yourself, and suffer an inflationary pressure.
 

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No political or diplomatic pressure will work on China.

Just stop buying from China all that cheap stuff at very favourable Dollar-Yuan exchange rate. That will work, when millions get unemployed as there is no export market left.

Why US is not doing it, because US economy will require two trillion dollars to build industry from ground up to make products themselves. That will be inflationary and stock market and banks would crash.

Alternative is to invest that money in India or other Asian economies with cheap labour, but that will not be inflationary but time consuming. It took China 30 years to take off, it will take similar time to make lesser economies to take off.

It is American choice, whether they wish a military confrontation with China or slowly weed China out of the market hold it has on consumer goods in the West. Other countries are waiting if US wish to excrcises that option or make it yourself, and suffer an inflationary pressure.
Yup true. My guess is that even american govt is waiting for a signal from their banks for this signal. Other than Obama, nobody is talking about taking confrontational approach with china. i am guessing , this policy direction won't be finalised until the next US president comes into office. Continuing this line of thought i am of the opinion there are two schools of thought in the US, one pro and other anti. i always had a feeling that their previous FED chairman was pro china.
 

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and also this threat from Chairman Mao's time :-
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/24/asia/china-smuggled-meat/

China's latest stomach-churning food scandal: Frozen meat from the 1970s
By Elaine Yu, for CNN

Updated 0919 GMT (1619 HKT) June 24, 2015



(CNN)Some 800 tonnes of smuggled frozen meat have been seized by Chinese authorities, including one batch dating from the 1970s, state media reported.

The meat was bound for restaurants, retailers and supermarkets in Hunan province, where it was found, and other Chinese provinces and major cities, according to a report from Xinhua, China's official news agency, on Tuesday.

Some packages were rotten and others were around 40 years old -- packed and stamped at the height of China's Cultural Revolution.
 

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With all the China bashing in West, the fact remains that Chinese goods are keeping American consumers afloat..
People have no money to get healthcare, pay mortgages and to send children to college...and if consumer goods become expensive...it can get much worse for consumers.
As for World War 3, its not going to happen...the only wars of future are going to be proxy wars (such as Paki against India, Ukraine against Russia etc.) and trade wars AND the biggest one...terrorist wars.
Terrorists have put a gun to the head of entire humanity.....every nation needs to join in this fight now.
 

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If China will stand out against USA, I bet USA will have a higher chance of having more allies compared to China.
 

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India will have to live with an increasingly assertive China for short to medium term. There are no easy solutions.

The first step to power is industrialization of India, which is far short of what is needed. It includes defence industries. India should be able to support not only its own defence needs but also of allies. Today India is unable to cater to needs of even those countries which have strong Indian cultural influence.

A cooperative security architecture based on long term objectives is MUST if China (or USA) influence is to be countered.

It is impossible for India to dominate IOR today. Writing reams of paper does not change the reality.

The world respects only real demonstrable power, not intentions.

And if anybody thinks West wants India to come up as maritime power and be a challenger to its own hegemony, he is daydreaming. The equipment provided so far only improves the efficiency somewhat, and the cost is very high.
 

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