The Rise of China : Strategic Implications.

Discussion in 'China' started by pyromaniac, Mar 1, 2009.

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What does china fear most militarily and socially as a threat to its security and stability?

  1. Japan turning assertive

    7.6%
  2. An indian global power

    33.0%
  3. The United States in its backyard.

    55.8%
  4. the russian military machine ramping up

    3.6%
  1. amoy

    amoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    :lol: this role will be handed over to Europe? I guess u refer to Mid East and Ukraine. So will u send boots on ground of Iraq, Syria and Ukraine to tackle such challenges?

    And u can see below, defence budgets of main pillars like UK and France are already above 2% of GDP.

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    More military spendings out of your pockets don't sound heartening to Europeans who struggle for economic recovery, in addition to the double edged sword - sanctions on Russia.

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    And in Asia Pacific, what US can is not much different from what it's doing in Ukraine - no more than lip service plus a few P-8A prying. In defiance China is speeding up the build-up of South China Sea reefs into Diego Garcia of her own.
     
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  2. Free Karma

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    BBC News - Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying weapons
    Hmm...what was this doing there?
     
  3. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

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    Why is Narendra Modi going to China? - Livemint

    India needs to highlight Tibet issue more.
     
  4. nrupatunga

    nrupatunga Senior Member Senior Member

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    Promotional video of CCNP(may not be entirely on topic)
     
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  5. Zebra

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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Can we start the Fall of China thread yet? Their economy is collapsing all around them.
     
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    China blocks India's move in UN seeking action against Pakistan on Lakhvi

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...t-Pakistan-on-Lakhvi/articleshow/47781771.cms

    UNITED NATIONS: China has blocked India's move in the UN demanding action against Pakistan over release of Mumbai attack mastermind and LeT commander Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi in violation of a resolution of the world body as it contended that India provided insufficient information.

    As the UN sanctions committee met here at India's request, a clarification was to be sought from Pakistan over Lakhvi's release in the 26/11 trial but the Chinese representatives blocked the move on grounds that India did not provide sufficient information, official sources said.

    In a letter to the current chair of the UN sanctions committee Jim McLay, India's permanent representative to the UN Asoke Mukherjee last month had said Lakhvi's release by a Pakistani court was in violation of the 1267 UN resolution dealing with designated entities and individuals.

    The sanctions measures apply to designated individuals and entities associated with terror groups including al-Qaeda and LeT, wherever located.

    The sanctions' committee has five permanent and 10 non-permanent UN member states in it.

    The release of Lakhvi had also raised concerns in the US, UK, Russia, France and Germany with Washington calling for him to be re-arrested.

    Lakhvi and six others — Abdul Wajid, Mazhar Iqbal, Hamad Amin Sadiq, Shahid Jameel Riaz, Jamil Ahmed and Younis Anjum — have been charged with planning and executing the Mumbai attack in November, 2008 that left 166 people dead.

    Lakhvi, 55, a close relative of LeT founder and Jamaat—Ud Dawa (JuD) chief Hafiz Saeed, was arrested in December 2008 and was indicted along with the six others on November 25, 2009 in connection with the 26/11 attack case. The trial has been underway since 2009.

    A Pakistani court had on April 9 set free Lakhvi, a development which India said "eroded" the value of assurances repeatedly conveyed to it by Pakistan on cross—border terrorism.
     
  8. prohumanity

    prohumanity Senior Member Senior Member

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    Its confusing ..to say the least. Today, on one hand, China has opened the road thru Nathu La pass for Indian pilgrims to visit ManSarovar lake. Chines are welcoming Indians with blankets, food, flowers etc. when they cross the border to go to ManSarovar.
    On the other hand, China blocking action against a Paki terrorist in the UN. Can someone explain this discrepancy in behavior ?
     
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    That is called "Muh mein Ram, bagal mein churi".
     
  10. Hari Sud

    Hari Sud Senior Member Senior Member

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    No political or diplomatic pressure will work on China.

    Just stop buying from China all that cheap stuff at very favourable Dollar-Yuan exchange rate. That will work, when millions get unemployed as there is no export market left.

    Why US is not doing it, because US economy will require two trillion dollars to build industry from ground up to make products themselves. That will be inflationary and stock market and banks would crash.

    Alternative is to invest that money in India or other Asian economies with cheap labour, but that will not be inflationary but time consuming. It took China 30 years to take off, it will take similar time to make lesser economies to take off.

    It is American choice, whether they wish a military confrontation with China or slowly weed China out of the market hold it has on consumer goods in the West. Other countries are waiting if US wish to excrcises that option or make it yourself, and suffer an inflationary pressure.
     
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    Yup true. My guess is that even american govt is waiting for a signal from their banks for this signal. Other than Obama, nobody is talking about taking confrontational approach with china. i am guessing , this policy direction won't be finalised until the next US president comes into office. Continuing this line of thought i am of the opinion there are two schools of thought in the US, one pro and other anti. i always had a feeling that their previous FED chairman was pro china.
     
  12. aliyah

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    US still have to wait 15-20yrs for their economy to get on track......thats a long time......world war seems inevitable
     

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    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    and also this threat from Chairman Mao's time :-
    http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/24/asia/china-smuggled-meat/

    China's latest stomach-churning food scandal: Frozen meat from the 1970s
    By Elaine Yu, for CNN

    Updated 0919 GMT (1619 HKT) June 24, 2015

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    (CNN)Some 800 tonnes of smuggled frozen meat have been seized by Chinese authorities, including one batch dating from the 1970s, state media reported.

    The meat was bound for restaurants, retailers and supermarkets in Hunan province, where it was found, and other Chinese provinces and major cities, according to a report from Xinhua, China's official news agency, on Tuesday.

    Some packages were rotten and others were around 40 years old -- packed and stamped at the height of China's Cultural Revolution.
     
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    With all the China bashing in West, the fact remains that Chinese goods are keeping American consumers afloat..
    People have no money to get healthcare, pay mortgages and to send children to college...and if consumer goods become expensive...it can get much worse for consumers.
    As for World War 3, its not going to happen...the only wars of future are going to be proxy wars (such as Paki against India, Ukraine against Russia etc.) and trade wars AND the biggest one...terrorist wars.
    Terrorists have put a gun to the head of entire humanity.....every nation needs to join in this fight now.
     
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    Hopefully not yet posted on DFI.

    RENMINBI ASCENDING -
    How China’s Currency Impacts Global Markets,
    Foreign Policy, and Transatlantic Financial Regulation
     
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    If China will stand out against USA, I bet USA will have a higher chance of having more allies compared to China.
     
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    India will have to live with an increasingly assertive China for short to medium term. There are no easy solutions.

    The first step to power is industrialization of India, which is far short of what is needed. It includes defence industries. India should be able to support not only its own defence needs but also of allies. Today India is unable to cater to needs of even those countries which have strong Indian cultural influence.

    A cooperative security architecture based on long term objectives is MUST if China (or USA) influence is to be countered.

    It is impossible for India to dominate IOR today. Writing reams of paper does not change the reality.

    The world respects only real demonstrable power, not intentions.

    And if anybody thinks West wants India to come up as maritime power and be a challenger to its own hegemony, he is daydreaming. The equipment provided so far only improves the efficiency somewhat, and the cost is very high.
     

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