The Myth of American Exceptionalism

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  1. civfanatic

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    History does not follow a linear path as you have described.

    Considering the the numerous atrocities committed by the British Empire throughout the world, including the genocide of Native Americans in what is now the eastern U.S., the genocide of Australian aborigines (including the extermination of the entire indigenous population of Tasmania), the engineering of man-made famines that killed tens of millions of Indians between the 18th and 20th centuries, the trans-Atlantic slave trade that saw millions of Africans shipped against their will to the Americas (many of whom died in the journey, and the rest to suffer many decades of oppression), the use of forced labour to build railroads across Africa, the illegal export of opium to China that caused tens of millions of Chinese to become impoverished addicts (thereby driving the country into the ground), and many other crimes, I don't think it is fair to say that the British were 'far more humane' than the Huns.

    The reason why the world is (relatively) more humane and peaceful today than in the Middle Ages is because we as a world are far more interconnected and interdependent, thus making international wars less attractive while at the same time increasing general awareness of cultural diversity and different kinds of people. Advances in technology have also played a huge role in creating a more humane world. As a species, however, we are still just Homo sapiens, possessing extraordinary powers of creation and even more extraordinary powers of destruction.
     
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    One of the moderators was recently lamenting "necroposting" and threatening infractions. I guess all of that really is in the eye of the beholder. :-D
     
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    Read the first comment.... i cannot seem to he able to copy it my youtube app... it is cliche, but a fact every American must know
     
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    He was tossed in jail for 10 days and held on $807,000 bail, and was staring down years in prison for assaulting a cop, resisting arrest, and other charges.

    That's the story Faulkenberry told Ars in a recent telephone interview. The incident took place in a rural county of 40,000 just south of Austin, at the five-acre property where Faulkenberry runs a motorcycle parts shop.

    The police report (PDF) by Deputy Michael Taylor, however, claims Faulkenberry wasn't the victim. Taylor asserts that Faulkenberry attacked a deputy.

    "I observed Lawrence Faulkenberry push Sergeant Yost with the left side of his body and elbow into a tree causing him to fall and injure his left shin and right knee cap. I observed Lawrence Faulkenberry to forcefully resist Deputies while attempting to lawfully detain him for officer safety. Deputies detained Lawrence Faulkenberry using the least amount of force necessary to gain compliance from Lawrence Faulkenberry."

    But a secret video is closer to Faulkenberry's version of events.

    Thirty feet away from the melee was a Samsung home security video camera Faulkenberry had fastened to a utility pole years earlier. It captured police arriving in response to a bogus call from Faulkenberry's 16-year-old son. The teen, angry that his dad had grounded him for problems in school, told police his father was drunk and waving a firearm. The video shows Faulkenberry with his arms raised and no weapon in sight. While the officers begin to handcuff him, one deputy kicks Faulkenberry's leg out from under him, after which Faulkenberry is thrown forcibly to the ground and struck at least once in the back, according to the video.

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-of-assaulting-cop-did-police-commit-perjury/
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    Should be one american superthread as entire west tries to degrade Hindu men & make it 'progressive' for Hindu woman to be with goras & /or niggers. (I use nigger because many Hindus are also dark)

    Despite this, still double the # of Hindu men with goris than all melech combine with Hindu women in america.

    Not good but, this is a war we have to push our narrative on all fronts.

    http://yugaparivartan.com/2016/03/09/why-hindus-need-to-infiltrate-mass-media/

    Tl Dr why is there not american versionfof idiotic musings thread? Maybe one thread for all 5 anglos in case news not that much. Especially when they do stuff like this : saw story on tv in canada also.

    Poorer sections of Indian communities are routinely used as human guinea pigs, subject to testing by pharmaceutical companies

    http://indiaopines.com/bill-melinda-gates-foundation-guilty-india-vaccine-fraud-garvi/
     
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    Yeah, United States of America - the citadel of Democracy and Freedom.

     
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    American exclusiveness?

    Vladimir Putin - Lesson of professional trolling:

    It is alarming that military intervention in internal conflicts in foreign countries has become commonplace for the United States. Is it in America’s long-term interest? I doubt it. Millions around the world increasingly see America not as a model of democracy but as relying solely on brute force, cobbling coalitions together under the slogan “you’re either with us or against us.”

    But force has proved ineffective and pointless. Afghanistan is reeling, and no one can say what will happen after international forces withdraw. Libya is divided into tribes and clans. In Iraq the civil war continues, with dozens killed each day. In the United States, many draw an analogy between Iraq and Syria, and ask why their government would want to repeat recent mistakes.

    No matter how targeted the strikes or how sophisticated the weapons, civilian casualties are inevitable, including the elderly and children, whom the strikes are meant to protect.

    The world reacts by asking: if you cannot count on international law, then you must find other ways to ensure your security. Thus a growing number of countries seek to acquire weapons of mass destruction. This is logical: if you have the bomb, no one will touch you. We are left with talk of the need to strengthen nonproliferation, when in reality this is being eroded.

    We must stop using the language of force and return to the path of civilized diplomatic and political settlement.

    A new opportunity to avoid military action has emerged in the past few days. The United States, Russia and all members of the international community must take advantage of the Syrian government’s willingness to place its chemical arsenal under international control for subsequent destruction. Judging by the statements of President Obama, the United States sees this as an alternative to military action.

    I welcome the president’s interest in continuing the dialogue with Russia on Syria. We must work together to keep this hope alive, as we agreed to at the Group of 8 meeting in Lough Erne in Northern Ireland in June, and steer the discussion back toward negotiations.

    If we can avoid force against Syria, this will improve the atmosphere in international affairs and strengthen mutual trust. It will be our shared success and open the door to cooperation on other critical issues.

    My working and personal relationship with President Obama is marked by growing trust. I appreciate this. I carefully studied his address to the nation on Tuesday. And I would rather disagree with a case he made on American exceptionalism, stating that the United States’ policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.” It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal.

    Vladimir V. Putin is the president of Russia.

    Reference to the full text of the letter and original of article:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/putin-plea-for-caution-from-russia-on-syria.html?_r=0
     
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    all animals are equal, but...


     
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    I will wholeheartedly agree.

    And that is something we Indians need to learn from you.

    In the government sector mainly.
     
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    thanks man! i learned something useful... great info.
     
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    Well if you call all this luck then not it is not surprising that some will see a sign of God’s sympathy in that luck .
     
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    Yes, America is not exceptionalist nation but one should also acknowledge the fact it is the economic powerhouse of the world; take that the eastern hemisphere breaks down especially China and India.
    Yes it also has blood on his hand which cannot be countered but when you look the military history of major countries of the world you will see the same thing with them
    Since the stature and stake of US is very high the effect world faces is also quite big

    And China is still very much behind in becoming the direct competitor of USA (like the Soviet Union)


    Let's be realist
     
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    Here's a more specific list of American athletes caught in doping scandals:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_sportspeople_in_doping_cases

    But the difference between the USA and Russia is that doping in the USA is strictly prohibited and athletes caught doping always face stiff penalties. In other words, doping among American athletes are isolated acts of individual athletes and not sanctioned by the state or its various sports agencies and organizations.

    In Russia however the Russian state has helped its athlete dope and escape being discovered from doping. In other words, Russia has sponsored a national doping program to get ahead of other countries in sports competitions and the whole state apparatus help perpetrate these widescale criminal acts.
     
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    Aukaat of obama after he is no longer president of america.. that's kenya president on the right...
    American media will probably not show this image because it busts the myth of american exceptionalism .

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