The Conflict in Yemen

[amoy]

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Is the Shiite revival here? - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East

In Yemen, things are similar to the situations described here, particularly that of Iraq. Saudi Arabia has repeated the same mistake of showing defiance and not dealing with the new reality, while Iran has opened up to change and provided unlimited support for the increasingly emerging Shiite force in Yemen. Saudi Arabia included on March 7, 2014, the Shiite Houthis on its terrorist list, and has refrained from dealing and talking with them. This is despite the common Saudi Arabian and Houthi interest in fighting al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood in Yemen.

Meanwhile, on March 1, Iran Air operated its first direct flight between Tehran and Sanaa, the first in 25 years. Iran has also hosted a Houthi delegation, which resulted in the March 13 signing of agreements between the two countries to help Yemen get Iranian oil and Iran's support in the construction of power plants and modernization of some strategic ports in western Yemen.

There is certainly a clear change in the balance of power in favor of Shiite Iran against the leaders of the Sunni project. Yet, this does not require a further rivalry devastating the region. Rather, it should be dealt with through negotiations that recognize the new reality, and by determining joint action mechanisms between the Sunni and Shiite forces to achieve stable peace in the region.

Read more: Is the Shiite revival here? - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East

Iran-backed rebels in Yemen loot secret files about US spy operations - Middle East - Stripes

WASHINGTON (Tribune Content Agency) — Secret files held by Yemeni security forces that contain details of American intelligence operations in the country have been looted by Iran-backed militia leaders, exposing names of confidential informants and plans for U.S.-backed counterterrorism strikes, U.S. officials say.

U.S. intelligence officials believe additional files were handed directly to Iranian advisers by Yemeni officials who have sided with the Houthi militias that seized control of Sana, the capital, in September, which led the U.S.-backed president to flee to Aden.

For American intelligence networks in Yemen, the damage has been severe. Until recently, U.S. forces deployed in Yemen had worked closely with President Abdu Rabu Mansour Hadi's government to track and kill al-Qaida operatives, and President Barack Obama had hailed Yemen last fall as a model for counterterrorism operations elsewhere.

 

[Ray]

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It seems that the Houthi people who are Shias are winning.

Our Bohras are actually Yemeni Shias. (@Yusuf)

The Dawoodi Bohra trace their belief system back to Yemen, where it evolved from the Fatimid Caliphate and where they were persecuted due to their differences from mainstream Sunni Islam and Zaydi Shia Islam. Around 1530 CE, the Dawat was relocated to India.

The word Bohra itself comes from the Gujarati word vehru ("trade") in reference to their traditional profession, while the term Dawoodi refers to their support for Dawood Bin Qutubshah in the 1592 leadership dispute which divided the Tayyibi sect, creating the Dawoodi Bohra.

 

[sorcerer]

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Pakistan "Examining" Saudi Request Over Yemen Intervention

Pakistan confirmed on Thursday it is currently examining Saudi Arabia's request to provide assistance to overcome the on-going crisis in Yemen.

"The Saudi request to become part of its coalition against Yemeni rebels is currently being examined," Foreign Office Tasneem Aslam said, during her weekly press briefing in Islamabad.

Riyadh is increasingly worried over the advances made by Houthi rebels in Yemen as it fears that they can infiltrate into the Kingdom, reports The Express Tribune.

Earlier today, Saudi Arabia said five Muslim countries, including Egypt and Pakistan, want to participate in the Gulf-led military coalition against Huthi rebels who have seized large swathes of Yemen.

"The Pakistani community in Yemen has been alerted in view of the current situation there. No decision, however, has so far been taken to shut down the embassy," Aslam added.


Further, Aslam said Pakistan embassy in Yemen has been asked to remain alert for evacuation of Pakistani community in case the situation further deteriorates.

Saudi Arabia and four other Gulf states, including Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, announced earlier a decision to "answer the call of President Hadi to protect Yemen and his people from the aggression of the Huthi militia."

Aslam insisted that Pakistan has always played a positive role in creating unity among the Muslim 'Ummah.' She further said Islamabad was against creating divisions in the Muslim world on the sectarian lines.
The decision on committing troops for Saudi Arabia is tricky one as this may have negative implications in terms of Islamabad's ties with neighboring Tehran.
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Pakistan "Examining" Saudi Request Over Yemen Intervention / Sputnik India English - News, Opinion, Radio

 

[IBSA]

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Pak watchdog of KSA?

 

[SADAKHUSH]

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Pak watchdog of KSA?

It is a welcome news for the West. Let them help each other to fight their own war. The chingari has been lit and it is going to flare up till whole of ME is engulfed in never ending infighting among the tribes and sects.

 

[IBSA]

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Then what kind is it. Is it about Nations? What is the total national history of people outside India. Is it about Culture? What Culture?

It is exactly like it was in the north of KSA. In Syria.

Here is how you have explained the warring sides. Now how is this not about religion?





Or is it 'about religion only when it is happening to Brazil' and 'not about religion when happening to Shias'.

Is religion any different from politics?

Have I explained this?? This post I copied from AL Jazeera site. None of these words are mine. Al Jazeera are explaining the Yemeni Crisis this way. And as Al Jazeera is Qatari, they are allied of West/KSA and will sell this version of conflict.

Zaydi shias are not much different of Sunni, they have most in common than Iranian Shias. Yemeni Zaydi Shias dont believes in Twelve Imam, for example.

Shias and Sunni always have existed in Yemen, Syria, and other countries of Middle East. If the hate between them are so huge, why these conflicts don't arisen before, instead of only now??

Nature of conflict is political. It is about legitimacy. For KSA and allies, Hadi is the legitimate president of Yemen, and Houthis are coupists, while for houthis and their allies, Hadi is not legitimate because he would have won the polls by fraud and as the one option to vote.

 

[ezsasa]

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It seems KSA has asked for 50k troops from Bakiland. While Saudi sources are confirming that pakistan is sending the troops, but Bakiland FO is not confirming the same.

This situation is interesting because Bakis are in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. If they send troops Iran will be angry, if they don't KSA will be angry.

For us this should be of interest because it will be interesting to see how Baki troops perform away from home ground. Will interesting to see if Baki troops make the same noise out side of home ground same as they do it with us and afghans.

Right now I believe they are trying to find excuses to get out of this bind, the question is how will their biggest patron KSA will react if they don't send troops. Pakistan having called themselves the "protector of Islamic world" for decades have their first chance post 911 to prove it.

 

[Khagesh]

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Have I explained this?? This post I copied from AL Jazeera site. None of these words are mine. Al Jazeera are explaining the Yemeni Crisis this way. And as Al Jazeera is Qatari, they are allied of West/KSA and will sell this version of conflict.

Zaydi shias are not much different of Sunni, they have most in common than Iranian Shias. Yemeni Zaydi Shias dont believes in Twelve Imam, for example.

Shias and Sunni always have existed in Yemen, Syria, and other countries of Middle East. If the hate between them are so huge, why these conflicts don't arisen before, instead of only now??

Nature of conflict is political. It is about legitimacy. For KSA and allies, Hadi is the legitimate president of Yemen, and Houthis are coupists, while for houthis and their allies, Hadi is not legitimate because he would have won the polls by fraud and as the one option to vote.

Legitimacy in these regions gets decided by who you ask.

Let the Shias say this is not about religion. Their religion as they understand it and we can ignore the religion angle. That would be truth. Everything else is mere interpretation. An interpretation subject to the interpreters own set of prides and prejudices.

This is very much about religion. Even today if these Shias simply give up their shiaism there would be no genocide.

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

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If this escalates then someone will fire a nuclear warhead on someone.

 

[ladder]

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I didn't see the same amount of outrage by Saudi Arabia when Al Quaida were controlling one province of Yemen. So, definitely this has sectorial undertones.

 

[ladder]

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If this escalates then someone will fire a nuclear warhead on someone.

You mean using 'Islamic bomb' on followers of Islam by followers of Islam?

 

[Rowdy]

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Bakis are foooked this pushes Iran closer to India China and Russia ( I club them together as they have similar outlook on this specific issue)
They are the losers in every outcome. Just wait till the sanctions come off of Iran .... Shia militia in P0rkistan.

 

[Zebra]

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3014289/Yemen-s-president-seeks-refuge-Riyadh-Saudi-led-coalition-continues-launch-country-airstrikes.html

A supporter of the Jamaat-ud-Dawa Islamic organization holds a banner in support of Saudi Arabia over its intervention in Yemen, during a demonstration in Islamabad, Pakistan

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Supporters of the Jamaat-ud-Dawa Islamic organization chant slogans in support of Saudi Arabia over its intervention in Yemen, during a demonstration in Islamabad, Pakistan yesterday

 

[Zebra]

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Yemen Houthi rebels advance despite Saudi-led air strikes | Reuters

 

[sorcerer]

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Pakistan Will Defend S.Arabia But Not Escalate Conflict

Pakistan is ready to defend Saudi Arabia's "territorial integrity" but not to escalate any conflict, the defence minister said Friday, after Riyadh asked Islamabad to join the coalition of countries battling Yemen rebels.

Khawaja Asif told parliament Pakistan was not prepared to take part in any conflict that would divide the Muslim world on sectarian lines.

"We don't want to be part of any proliferation, we will try to contain it," he said.

The announcement appears to rule out any immediate Pakistani participation in the fighting, which has so far been confined to Yemen itself.

Saudi Arabia has begun air strikes in Yemen to defend the government of President Abedrabbo Mansour Hadi from advancing Shiite Huthi rebels.


Its ambassador in Washington said Thursday it had assembled a coalition of 10 countries, including Pakistan and five Gulf monarchies, formed to protect the Yemeni government.

But Pakistan, a longstanding ally of Riyadh, says it has not yet decided whether to join the operation, which has seen Yemeni capital Sanaa rocked by powerful explosions.

Asif said Pakistan's "only pledge is for the territorial integrity of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia".

"God forbid, if there is any threat to the sovereignty or territorial integrity of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan will defend it at any cost," he told lawmakers.

Pakistan Will Defend S.Arabia But Not Escalate Conflict / Sputnik India English - News, Opinion, Radio

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Pakistan is ready to defend Saudi Arabia's "territorial integrity" but not to escalate any conflict, the defence minister said Friday

"God forbid, if there is any threat to the sovereignty or territorial integrity of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan will defend it at any cost," he told lawmakers.

Pakistan...where they diplomats contradict themselves.(Read. Make an ass out of themselves)

 

[smestarz]

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Pakistan "Examining" Saudi Request Over Yemen Intervention

Pakistan confirmed on Thursday it is currently examining Saudi Arabia's request to provide assistance to overcome the on-going crisis in Yemen.

"The Saudi request to become part of its coalition against Yemeni rebels is currently being examined," Foreign Office Tasneem Aslam said, during her weekly press briefing in Islamabad.

Riyadh is increasingly worried over the advances made by Houthi rebels in Yemen as it fears that they can infiltrate into the Kingdom, reports The Express Tribune.

Earlier today, Saudi Arabia said five Muslim countries, including Egypt and Pakistan, want to participate in the Gulf-led military coalition against Huthi rebels who have seized large swathes of Yemen.

"The Pakistani community in Yemen has been alerted in view of the current situation there. No decision, however, has so far been taken to shut down the embassy," Aslam added.


Further, Aslam said Pakistan embassy in Yemen has been asked to remain alert for evacuation of Pakistani community in case the situation further deteriorates.

Saudi Arabia and four other Gulf states, including Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, announced earlier a decision to "answer the call of President Hadi to protect Yemen and his people from the aggression of the Huthi militia."

Aslam insisted that Pakistan has always played a positive role in creating unity among the Muslim 'Ummah.' She further said Islamabad was against creating divisions in the Muslim world on the sectarian lines.
The decision on committing troops for Saudi Arabia is tricky one as this may have negative implications in terms of Islamabad's ties with neighboring Tehran.
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Pakistan "Examining" Saudi Request Over Yemen Intervention / Sputnik India English - News, Opinion, Radio

Well Pakistan has one of the worst sectarian attack records, what the hell are they talking about?

 

[GokuInd]

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It's quite a surprise the Sunni Axis of Evil shows more motivation in bombing the hell outta opressed Shia tribes than putting any sincere effort into annihilating ISIS & Al Qaida which they helped bankroll.

 

[sgarg]

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So we have ->

a. Proxy war between Shia-Sunni in Yemen
b. Proxy war between Shia-Sunni in Syria/Iraq
c. Al Qaida takeover of Libya plus destabilization of entire North Africa
d. War in Ukraine

What is remaining - war in South China sea - to complete this picture.

2015 turning out to be an interesting year.

 

[Compersion]

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i am curios also to know and was wondering if the americans and the use of the american name was done with approval and consent in such a way. because it was dangled in a grandstand way and out there to show that americans supported and knew of this.

 

[ladder]

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Houthi rebels stop Pakistani convoy from fleeing conflict in Yemen

Pakistani convoy allowed to leave Sanaa checkpost - The Express Tribune