The Chinese High-Speed Train Network No One Else Really Wants

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  1. rockdog

    rockdog Regular Member

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    Boston mayor endorsed CRCC's products.

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  2. Wisemarko

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    Calling all Chinese products junk is stupidly naive- just like calling every German product perfect. China, just like other manufacturing nations has tiers in quality and price. The high end Chinese manufacturing (phones, electronics, automobiles) is world class. At the same time, just like Opel of Germany, many Chinese brands and producers are not know for reliability or quality. Buying from them and calling rest of the country junk producers doesn’t make any sense.
     
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  3. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    There is a reason Chinese products have the reputation of being cheap junk and disposable. They cut corners to make them and then don't provide the aftermarket service to fix the problems, they are quick to make excuses not to honour warranties and making absurd RMA back to China instead of taking care in the country of sale. That is why China is incapable of making valued brands and until the culture changes, you will still see German cars outselling Chinese cars in China, much less the rest of the world.
     
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    Wisemarko Regular Member

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    Again, huge generalization. DJI is a chinese brand and world leader in civilian drone technology (with 70% global market share). All Apple products including iPhones, most electronics and electricals are made in China- with high reliability and quality one expects. There is a reason why China has a huge trade surplus against almost all countries including developing ones: don’t underestimate their abilities by silly generations out of ignorance/jealousy. I stop here on the topic.
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    DJI is not even in the top 1000 companies much less a name brand, looking at reviews their after sales service is practically non-existent. Citing Apple makes no sense, China is a screwdriver assembly line for suppliers (Foxconn) of Western brands that has foreign managers overseeing production. if left to Chinese managers the quality takes a sharp decline as they cut corners to undercut the competition. There is a huge deficit certainly not because of quality, the deficit is caused by cheap prices for disposable products. Walmart has the highest return rate and it correlates with its high percentage of Made in China inventory.
     
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    The Best Drones of 2018
    https://www.pcmag.com/roundup/337251/the-best-drones

    8/9 are from Chinese companies

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    Pakistan got locomotive from china and it broke down in first run itself and new engine had to call upon to pull the coaches. Train was Shalimar express.
     
  8. rockdog

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    Sometimes, i feel we also should blame some purchaser from some developing nations. Nations from mid-east have good reputation, about the Indian buyers are quite infamous in China's international business, the aftermath is: shit price for low end product...


    This is a recently lecture from online school for "international business tips" , please check the video inside.

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    Teaching Video:
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    Even the make up of Indian accent is kind of offensive, still it reflects the mindset of Chinese vendors, if you can read the comments, everyone complaints that hardly to make even one penny profit from Indian buyer. This kind of manner, will be harmful to both sides.
     
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    Well, then India and China are both better off not doing business any more, especially the high speed train stuff. Both will be happy.
     
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    I think most of Chinese people don't want to see Chinese companies to build infrastructure in India, selling of cheap goods will be ok though.
     
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    then India should focus on getting everything from Japanese for better technology higher speed and better engines, forget about Chinese stuff and Chinese people will love to see that, why not right?
     
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    Most Chinese netizen indeed were not happy their companies to build infrastructures for India, such as telecom networks, power grid, railway/metro system... But this is the business world, no one has right to stop them.

    By building the OBOR surrounding India, nations around India would have more routes to dump the Chinese products to Indian domestic market.
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    There is one big problem with OBOR that isn't an Indian problem, it is a Chinese debt problem. China loaned Sri Lanka $10 billion for a port that now sits idle and defaulted with Chinese banks on the hook. Several times more was given to Pakistan that looks set to default and many more defaults on the horizon. Most of the countries that had initially signed up are now thinking twice about taking on Chinese debt they know they can't pay back which puts the entire initiative at risk. With hundreds of billions of Chinese depositors money on the line Chinese banks should think hard if it is wise to loan out so much money they will never see again.
     
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    Again dear Armand2REP, you discovered Chinese debt and economic crisis for at least 7 years, i still recommend you to use your accurate prediction to short Chinese companies and banks on stock market, you must be very rich now, how many times more than your veteran pension?
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    I watched a documentary not too long ago called The Chinese Hustle that laid out the IPOs of Chinese companies on the NYSE were all scams faking their numbers by up to 10X. If we were to audit Chinese banks and corporations would we find similar fraud?
     
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    oh yeah, I have watched that documentary. I also watched a movie "the wallstreet wolf" which basically told the same story except for that they were American companies.
     

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