The biggest police state in the world - Xinjiang, China

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  1. mattster

    mattster Respected Member Senior Member

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    No other country in the world except China treats its Muslim minority like animals......and yet the world Muslim. Now the latest change is that anyone in Xinjiang that wants to ride the new subway must show their ID to get a ticket.


    Chinese surveillance chiefs are testing a facial-recognition system that alerts authorities when targets stray more than 300 metres from their home or workplace, as part of a surveillance push that critics say has transformed the country’s western fringes into a high-tech police state.

    Authorities in Xinjiang, a border region that is home to China’s largely Muslim Uighur minority, have been experimenting with the “alert project” since early 2017, according to Bloomberg.

    The programme, which matches faces caught on surveillance cameras to a watchlist of suspects, is the work of a state-run defence contractor that is developing software designed to help predict and thwart terrorist attacks before they occur.

    “A system like this is obviously well-suited to controlling people,” Jim Harper, a counter-terrorism specialist and former US homeland security official was quoted as saying. “‘Papers, please’ was the symbol of living under tyranny in the past. Now, government officials don’t need to ask.”

    The Bloomberg report is the latest to detail the cutting-edge techniques being rolled out as Xinjiang becomes a real-life laboratory for surveillance. Other methods include the harvesting of biometric data, smartphone scanners, voice analysis and compulsory satellite-tracking systems for vehicles.

    “They are combining all of these things to create, essentially, a total police state,” said William Nee, a China campaigner at Amnesty International.

    No journalist’s visit to Xinjiang now goes unnoticed. An Associated Press correspondent was stopped by police during a recent visit and told his movements were being remotely tracked with surveillance footage.

    During a 12-day tour of China’s “total surveillance state”, the Wall Street Journal’s vehicle was hemmed in by police after cameras spotted its out-of-town number plates.

    When the Guardian visited Xinjiang last spring its journalists were summoned to meet police within minutes of checking in to a Kashgar hotel and told that reporting was forbidden without official permission.

    One exasperated local said Xinjiang had become hell: “I would prefer to be a Syrian refugee than Chinese.”

    Yang Shu, a terrorism expert at Lanzhou University, said Xinjiang’s dire security situation was an open secret and surveillance could provide “powerful clues” to help catch those causing the violence. “High technology can guarantee security without interrupting people’s normal activities,” Yang said.

    Beijing argues such controls are necessary given repeated eruptions of violence, which authorities blame on Islamic extremists but which activists believe are partly driven by repression of the Uighurs.

    Nee said reports that Islamic State had recruited some Uighurs meant some surveillance was justified: “China does face a real threat from terrorism with all of the people who have gone to Syria and could, potentially, come back.”

    However, the indiscriminate targeting of Uighurs was fuelling “incredible anger” and happening outside the boundaries of international or Chinese law.

    “People should really pay attention to this because they could easily use the same tools of surveillance elsewhere in China, or for export. A lot of these companies will naturally want to grow their businesses and sell this technology to other authoritarian countries, or even democracies, that are looking for the same tools of control.”

    Additional reporting by Wang Xueying
     
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  3. rockdog

    rockdog Regular Member

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    If you take a plane to Israel from Beijing, there will be four times of security check, before the take off.

    If on Tel-Aviv, you enter any public building there will be strict check as well.

    People don't like security check since it costs time, government doesn't like it since cost money and social resource.

    But who and which religion created most such kind of terror attacks...
     
  4. mattster

    mattster Respected Member Senior Member

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    Who created the most terror attacks......Rockdog....its your best friend Pakistan. Your all weather best buddy of China. China loves terror attacks by Pakistan, as long as the target is India or the US.

    You hate Muslims when they attack you but you support Pakistan as they attack India and Afghanistan.

    Xinjiang is a PRISON state for every Muslim....only the Han Chinese are free in Xinjiang.
     
  5. hit&run

    hit&run Elite Member Elite Member

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    AFSPA is to protect Army not police.

    Army stays in Barracks and do not Police around in Cities or villages.

    Your Pakistaniyat is not letting you go near facts...BTW.
     
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  6. Willy3

    Willy3 Regular Member

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    I have no problem with china controling Uighurs, those are horrible, future possible jihadist, better to stay under teh control of a strong nation
     
  7. rockdog

    rockdog Regular Member

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    I think you are seriously lack of academic education:

    1. Most Xinjiang's terror group are connected with Turkey, not Pakistan; the Xinjiang is even called as East Turkistan by some people. Most Terrors just escaped/re-organized from China to Pakistan and Afghanistan, but finally reached Turkey.

    So, Pakistan is your problem, but ours.



    2. Minorities in Xinjiang such as Tajikistani, Kazakhstani, Hui ...; large portion of them are Muslim, but they are generally Pro-Han or Pro-government. Most terrors came from Uygur race.
    So your claim "PRISON state for every Muslim" was wrong.

    And there are even two beautiful muslim Uygur actress are on the top ranking in China's mainstream entailment industry:

    https://baike.baidu.com/item/迪丽热巴/1180418?fr=aladdin

    https://baike.baidu.com/item/古力娜扎/5724495?fr=aladdin



    3. [Off-topic removed. Thread is china related not India related. Don't try to divert]
     
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  8. Willy3

    Willy3 Regular Member

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    And pakis are bbf of Turks, they are going turkey as it's launch pad for reaching isis held areas, flowing through Pakistan without much resistance isn't good indication for "biggest victim of terrorism"
    Pakis support Uighur struggle even 2 decades ago, the time when it was bitch of murican.
    Yah...a time when murican too think that pakis are our problems.

    Pakistan is indeed ur problem ,only if u are against gloabl terrorism
     
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  9. rockdog

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    That's why i think you might not fully college educated.

    You "thought" the Pakistan is the path leads to Turkey for those Uygur terrors/Jihadis;

    But in fact due to the geographic limitation on the sino-pak border and PA's blockage, the most common way for them reach to Turk is: Xinjiang-Gansu provionce - Sichuan Province - Yunnan province - Laos / Thailand / Malaysia;

    Malaysia deports 28 Uighurs to China
    http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/malaysia-deports-28-uighurs-to-china

    Thailand Deports 100 Uyghurs to China
    https://thediplomat.com/2015/07/thailand-deports-100-uyghurs-to-china/

    This is well known for most people who "really understand and concern" China's terror situation.

    Next time, please make sure you really research something before rant, thank you in advance.
     
  10. s002wjh

    s002wjh Senior Member Senior Member

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    Not news US use these kind system since 911 to monitor online, social media and other place . Same with UK .
     
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