The Baloch question- By Manish Tewari

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Ignore Manish Tiwari's Congress past, let the Indian High Commissioner in Pakistan invite Baloch leaders for talks to the High Commission. Defy Pakistan, if it objects, same manner as Pakistan's High Commissioner did in Delhi, inviting Kashmiri separatists.
 

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The patriotism in the sickular kangress are coming back to the root........

This shows kangressi have the patriotic blood but are being suppressed by the fake Gandhis........
 

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The patriotism in the sickular kangress are coming back to the root........

This shows kangressi have the patriotic blood but are being suppressed by the fake Gandhis........
The thing is he is just saying it to pressurise bjp and thats it. he wouldnt have done or said the same if they in power.
What he is doing is mere playing politics.
 

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Pakistan is beein doing the same thing to Balouchis what it is accusing India regarding Kashmir.

There are numerous mass graves found in Baluchistan, people are taken from their homes and are never found, target killings sponsored by state.

The Mass Graves of Balochistan


The state-sponsored inquiry committees formed in Pakistan in recent times to probe scandalous crimes have shockingly narrowed down their overall scope to one specific goal: Prove the government's innocence. Marred with a chronic lack of public trust, the government and the military intelligence agencies are often blamed for atrocious crimes against unarmed civilians. Hence, the government, while pretending to investigate the harrowing crimes, spends substantial time contemplating how to deflect any charges against it. While the media and the general public are consistent in their demand for "independent investigations" into various cases, we are witnessing an alarming trend among the officially appointed investigators who, understandably, try their best to disprove allegations against the government.

Considering the lack of accountability mechanism and fragility of state institutions, the government always finds such probing bodies a shortcut to absolve itself from criminal charges. Once these investigative committees, often led by senior members of the judiciary, clear the government of its involvement in cases that require more transparency, the State immediately closes forever a chapter replete with numerous unanswered questions.

The findings of one such judicial tribunal about mass graves in Balochistan province are equally disappointing and consistent with the blatant pattern of shielding the actual masterminds of the mass grave scheme. In January 2014, at least three mass graves were found in Balochistan's Khuzdar district. The actual number of the dead bodies found in these graves varied depending on who one asked. The provincial government confirmed that 17 bodies were found in these mass graves while the ethnic Baloch nationalists, who are currently fighting the Pakistani state since 2004 for a free homeland, insisted that more than a hundred bodies had been found in these mass graves.

The Pakistani intelligence agencies, which had previously been castigated by the country's Supreme Court for being regularly blamed for widely practicing enforced disappearances in Balochistan, was once again nominated by the relatives of the missing persons. The missing persons are mainly, if not always, sympathizers of the Baloch nationalist movement. Their family members suspect that the military had killed the missing persons in custody and then dumped them in desolate places presuming that no one would ever find out about them.

So, the fresh official investigation tribunal did not come up with any extraordinary revelations except for vehemently ruling out the involvement of the Pakistani army and the government. That is not an adequate response to such a shocking discovery of human dead bodies. The people of Balochistan deserve a more resounding official account of the story behind the mass graves. Isn't it the primary responsibility of the government to protect its citizens, including those who do not share its political ideology? If the government is not responsible for the mass graves in Balochistan then who else is? It clearly seems that the Pakistani authorities are hiding the full truth and protecting the actual culprits responsible for killing and burying people believed to belong to the opposition camp.

Since the discovery of the mass graves, the government has remained unhelpful in getting to the truth behind the mass graves. The government sometimes deviated from the actual issue by disputing the actual number of the bodies found in the mass graves while, on other occasion, it blamed India for being involved in this gruesome episode. The Pakistani government has had such an irksome habit of blaming India for very trouble inside its frontiers that such official statements are no longer accepted as an alternative to the full truth.

The conflict in Balochistan has now completed one full decade. Starting from the military regime of General Musharraf, the conflict has shown no signs of resolution during the next two democratic governments led by the country's two major political parties namely the Pakistan People's Party (P.P.P.) and the Pakistan Muslim League (P.M.L.). The army is unwilling to change its confrontational policy toward Balochistan while the civilian governments of the P.P.P. and the P.M.L. have demonstrated insufficient enthusiasm to introduce a breakthrough in the conflict.

Following his grand success in last year's general elections, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif appointed a moderate Baloch nationalist, Dr. Abdul Malik, as the chief minister of the province. The appointment of a pro-Pakistan, educated Baloch nationalist as the chief executive of the province generated some unrealistic expectations about changes on ground in Balochistan. On the contrary, Sharif and the army over-burdened the poor chief minister by expecting him to solely fix the chaos in Balochistan. On the other hand, the central government simultaneously stabbed Dr. Baloch in the back by introducing such fresh laws that legalized enforced disappearances.

Islamabad's repeated denials about its involvement in human rights abuses in Balochistan will not only perpetuate the conflict but it will also provide institutional protection to and encouragement for those who are engaged in misuse of their official power in the name of 'national interest'. Since the retirement of former Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhary and the failed assassination attempt on vocal senior journalist Hamid Mir in Karachi, the judiciary and the media have also been intimidated and pushed back to such an extent that they have begun to submit to the official stance instead of confronting it.
Pakistan does not have a reconciliatory policy toward Balochistan. Whatever the current policy is, it is not working. Islamabad is reluctant to introduce a new workable policy because it will require bringing several important allies of the military, including its former chief General Musharraf, to justice. Unfortunately, Islamabad's current policy protects instead of persecuting those responsible for escalating tensions and violence.

The Mass Graves of Balochistan�|�Malik Siraj Akbar
These days these brutal activities are speeding up in the name of development and making the area safe for Chinese investments. Until now this province which is rich in mineral resources and a good source of income has not received enough funds or its share of budget from the federal Govt. of Pakistan.

Pakistan always love to accuse India regrding Kashmir but what they are doing in Balouchistan for the sake of Chinese investments is State sponsored killings and oppression of the native people.
 
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The Judicial inquiry done by Pakistani Judicial panel comfortably and conveniently came to the conclusion that Army is not responsible for the mass graves.

Khuzdar mass graves: Judicial panel says army, agencies not responsible

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There is not enough evidence to establish a case against any group or individual in the discovery of mass graves from the Tutak area of Khuzdar district of Balochistan, according to a judicial commission report made public by the Balochistan government. The report adds that the Pakistan Army, agencies and government were not involved in the incident.
Circumstances suggest that a local tribal elder Shafiq Mengal, son of former state minister Naseer Mengal, could be responsible for the deaths, the commission stated, pointing to statements of witnesses. Shafiq has denied all accusations, saying they are politically motivated.
"At least 37 witnesses recorded their statements against Shafiq Mengal and his people, accusing them of being responsible for the tragic incident," Home Secretary Akbar Durrani told The Express Tribune.
According to the report, at least 17 decomposed bodies were found from four different unmarked graves in Tutak after a shepherd spotted human remains here on January 17. The bodies were three to eight months old. DNA test results have yet to be returned from Lahore to ascertain the identities of the victims. Two bodies have reportedly been identified from evidence found at the scene.
The provincial government had formed a judicial commission, headed by Justice Noor Miskanzai of the Balochistan High Court. "The commission recorded the statements of 38 witnesses. No one recorded a statement against the army, secret agencies and the government. They did not accuse them of being involved in this heinous crime. On the contrary, there is enough evidence to suggest that the army, spy agencies and the government were not involved in this incident," the report stated.
The commission said it was the failure of the government and local administration that such a gruesome incident took place. The commission recommended that the government take legal action against the local administration deputed here at the time of the graves' discovery.
The commission recommended the government improve security arrangements in Khuzdar and send forces to eliminate 'no-go areas' like Tutak Sardari Shaher, an area in Khuzdar. "The government should strengthen the local administration and improve intelligence-sharing so such an incident cannot be repeated," the report stated.
Speaking to The Express Tribune, Shafiq Mengal said it was ironic that there was no evidence and still he was being implicated in the case. "The government is trying to implicate me in missing persons' cases," he said. "The establishment wants to make me a scapegoat," he said. "How could one implicate a politician in such a serious case without concrete evidence?"
Vice Chairman of Voice for Baloch Missing Persons (VFBMO) Mama Qadir said there were 70 people who had been tortured, killed and buried in Khuzdar. "How could any group kill 70 people without the help of the government and its functionaries?" he said.
Published in The Express Tribune, August 20th, 2014.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/750982/...ial-panel-says-army-agencies-not-responsible/
 
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Tewari is an idiot. Balochistan is not a disputed territory, what judicial ground does India have to host Balochi seperatists? Any such attempt by India will only work in Pakistani favor in world opinion and would pave way for Pakistan to openly support all seperatist movements in India.
 

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Wrong analogy. Baluchistan is not a dispute between India & Pakistan but nevertheless its a dispute where we can involve ourselves as long as Pak tries to interfere in our internal affairs. At the same time we need to talk to people in Baltistan & Northern Areas of PoK. Shias there are being persecuted & Pakjabis are being settled there to change ti demographically.
 

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Tewari is an idiot. Balochistan is not a disputed territory, what judicial ground does India have to host Balochi seperatists? Any such attempt by India will only work in Pakistani favor in world opinion and would pave way for Pakistan to openly support all seperatist movements in India.
Let's not get into whether it is a disputed territory.

Punjab wasn't one. Till Pakistan bred the Khalistani and it's not now after we successfully countered the insurgency.
So, don't take the moral high ground when you have none.

Let's give world opinion a rest. We know what opinion Pakistan can mobilize.
 
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Tewari is an idiot. Balochistan is not a disputed territory, what judicial ground does India have to host Balochi seperatists? Any such attempt by India will only work in Pakistani favor in world opinion and would pave way for Pakistan to openly support all seperatist movements in India.
Pakistan is already doing and had done this in the past.
 

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Ignore Manish Tiwari's Congress past, let the Indian High Commissioner in Pakistan invite Baloch leaders for talks to the High Commission. Defy Pakistan, if it objects, same manner as Pakistan's High Commissioner did in Delhi, inviting Kashmiri separatists.
The patriotism in the sickular kangress are coming back to the root........

This shows kangressi have the patriotic blood but are being suppressed by the fake Gandhis........
is he not with congress anymore????
manish tiwari of corrupt congress,is it in english,is he saying in english,

then wait a minute just let me take out my english dictionar...ohhhh sh*t even oxford dictionary won't help.:rofl::laugh::lol:
 

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Tewari is an idiot. Balochistan is not a disputed territory, what judicial ground does India have to host Balochi seperatists? Any such attempt by India will only work in Pakistani favor in world opinion and would pave way for Pakistan to openly support all seperatist movements in India.
Dude please, Pakistan creating an anti India wave is as far fetched and ridiculous as the Zaid Hamid's dream of a Pakistani on the moon in five years.:laugh:

You don't even have any clout over Iran (a nation under sanctions) or Afghanistan (a nation which is essentially broke) so stop dreaming. Despite what your textbooks may have told you, Pakistan is not the center of the universe or Allah's gift to humanity.:rolleyes: As a nation Pakistan barely exists, nothing more nothing less.
 

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Wrong analogy. Baluchistan is not a dispute between India & Pakistan but nevertheless its a dispute where we can involve ourselves as long as Pak tries to interfere in our internal affairs. At the same time we need to talk to people in Baltistan & Northern Areas of PoK. Shias there are being persecuted & Pakjabis are being settled there to change ti demographically.
Kashmir is not your internal matter, period.
 

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Let's not get into whether it is a disputed territory.

Punjab wasn't one. Till Pakistan bred the Khalistani and it's not now after we successfully countered the insurgency.
So, don't take the moral high ground when you have none.

Let's give world opinion a rest. We know what opinion Pakistan can mobilize.
So you want war? Good luck with it.
 

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So you want war? Good luck with it.
Luck? Lady Luck! better 72 of them. ( here in this world)

You tried to do an Aizawl with us in 1966. We replied back with a Dhaka in1971.

So, better think before you say.

As our PM says, Pakistan has lost the capability to wage a conventional war with India.

As far as proxy war goes, 4 of your dear mujjis were sent to their graves just today.
 

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Kashmir is not your internal matter, period.
Who says?

Your lack of understanding, is not the fault of DD.

Kashmir dispute isn't a internal matter but the separatists are. As in no mechanism/treaty/declaration accepted for Kashmir starting from UN 1948 till today, the separatists have been mentioned as a stake-holder.
 

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Has Mickey Manish seen any Baloch refugee exodus to India that India is to host a Baloch Govt in exile.

The man is said to be a lawyer!

He cannot even argue out a case.
He is a lawyer but doesn't know how to make ground for a argument. IGNORE THIS Communal Congress IDIOT! These days he is blaming BJP not having a clear strategy but his own party's Biryani Diplomacy is a embarrassment.

Not long ago he embarrassed himself and his party.

Congress leader Manish Tewari apologises to Nitin Gadkari for naming him in Adarsh scam - IBNLive

New Delhi: In a major embarrassment for the Congress, its leader Manish Tewari on Wednesday tendered an unconditional apology to BJP leader Nitin Gadkari for allegedly defaming him in the Adarsh scam case.
 

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