TEDBF - Twin-Engine Deck Based Fighter (ADA)

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  1. captscooby81

    captscooby81 Senior Member Senior Member

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    So is this going to pave way for more Rafale's ? If IAF is dragging its feet on MK1A which aircraft they have in mind to replace more than 200 Mig21 & 27 and Jaguars ?

     
  2. Gautam Sarkar

    Gautam Sarkar Regular Member

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    Eh..... ?!? I have fans now. What is happening ?

    The component testing of the SCE-200 in Ukraine was supposed to be completed by the end of 2019. The full engine test stand at ISRO propulsion complex, Mahendragiri is supposed to be completed by the mid next year. If the test stand is completed in time, expect a hot test in 2020. Dr. S. Somnath was reported recently that the engine was ready for trials.
     
  3. Assassin 2.0

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    I think naval twin engine jet will be non stealthy version of AMCA .
     
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    BIG UPDATE.




    ADA earlier this year at Aero India 2019 had showcased a Navy-LCA Mk2 with Max takeoff weight (MTOW) of around 16.5 tonnes powered by a single-engine supplied by US engine-maker General Electric (GE) F414IN engine generating 98 kN thrust class but it was rejected by the Indian Navy due to Thrust to weight ratio and Navy also wanted safety of the second engine for smooth carrier deck operations. According to details revealed by Dr. Girish Deodhare, Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter (TEDBF) will be powered by Two F414IN engines generating 98 kN thrust class each and now will be bigger and heavier than the Navy-LCA Mk2 concept which was showcased at Aero India 2019 earlier this year. TEDBF will have Max takeoff weight (MTOW) of around 24 tonnes which puts it in the same class as that of other carrier-based fighter jets like Rafale-M ( 24.5 tonnes) and Mig-29K ( 24.5 tonnes) which is already operated by the Indian Navy. TEDBF will also be in the same weight category has that of the 5th generation stealth AMCA program which is under development for the air force which also falls under 25 tonnes. According to information provided to idrw.org, the current fleet of 43 Mig-29K will be relieved of its carrier-based duties once TEDBF is inducted from 2031 onwards and instead Mig-29K fleet will be used from shore-based Naval facilities for patrolling and combat missions instead of being retired as reported by other media outlets. Dr. Girish Deodhare has confirmed that the first roll-out will happen by 2025 and the first flight of TEDBF will happen by 2026. Technologies developed for the Naval-LCA Mk1 program will be used for the TEDBF program, while other technologies will come from MWF-AF and AMCA programs which are also in development. Two years back, the Indian Navy had issued RFI to supply 57 fighter jets to Navy and four players Rafale-M (Dassault, France), F-18 Super Hornet (Boeing, US), MIG-29K (Russia), Sea Gripen (Saab, Sweden) had responded to the RFI issued by the Indian Navy. It is more or less can be assumed that due to the development of the TEDBF program, the Indian Navy is likely to stick with the local 4.5 generation program while it invests in the 5th Generation Naval-AMCA program soon for operations from the second carrier.
     
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  5. Knowitall

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    Maybe iaf can have this version too instead of more rafales it will be cost effective too.
     
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  6. Holy Triad

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    Imo,IN will drop namca too... Expect a separate tedbsf(s being stealth) project.

    I guess,They're not interested in iaf "controlled" projects. :)
     
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    Amca is going to be a heavy jet for naval standards and with just 96KN thrust engines it will not be able to create good thrust to weight ratio. Hence to overcome this problem a stronger engine most probably a 110-115KN engine will be required which will be kaveri and seeing it's development it will take its own time. Hence Navy felt that best way to move forward is development of it's own carrier based jet.
    And one fact even US Navy ordered some new The Navy awarded Boeing a $4 billion multi-year contract modification to build 78 F/A-18E/F Super Hornet fighters, according to a Wednesday Pentagon contract announcement FA-18 which will be delivered by 2025 or soo.
     
  8. Holy Triad

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    "To meet Deck Based Fighter requirements, a RFI for MRCBF (Multi Role Carrier Borne Fighter) has been hosted on the MoD website.

    The case is being progressed in accordance with DPP-16.

    Further,a case for MiG-29K midlife upgrade is being progressed".





    Hmmm...
     

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