Tank brigades to be deployed near China border

[no smoking]

Come on, Is brahmos so expensive that we can not use it for crippling the bridges ?

Definitely not. You can cut off chinese supply line with railway in couple of strikes of brahmos living them to be dependent of road supply only. Brahmos block 3 is made for that only. it can dive on the target with a great accuracy with 300 KG load to make anything in dust.

The problem is not how good Brahmos is, but how fast your air force can get dominance in this area.
Those railway bridges are locating deep inside Tibet and far away from Sino-India border. With 290km range, you need send your Su-30 to carry these missiles deep into the Chinese air space that will expose them to the Chinese interceptor. By carrying such a big heavy missile on board, Su-30MKI will become a perfect target to any fighter.

Besides, there is too many ways to disturb cruise missile's navigation system, especially for super-sonic cruise missile. Americans have a good reason of not pursuing for brahmose kind of weapon.

 

[Screambowl]

That's quiet disturbing thing...from Uttarakhand( china Border) to New Delhi is about 400 odd Km and From himachal pradesh it can cut J&K from India

the terrain is not easy because till roorkee it's all hills. And Multiple strikes can be launched on incoming invasion from any direction and from heights and they will face heavy loss. So it will be tough for them even to cross 10-15 km inside Indian territory forget coming close to middle.

Secondly, in that region the army will also play offensive role to capture the plateau.

 

[bengalraider]

There are three clear advantages India has in the case of an Indo Chinese conflict!

1) PLAAF aircraft flying from Tibetan airbases cannot fly with full combat loads due to rarefied air of the plateau, while Indian Aircraft will take off from the plains of Uttar Pradesh with full combat loads and hence better A2A & A2G abilities.The PLA has tried to negate this to some extent by placing S300 class SAMs in the TAR , however actual utility of these systems in the mountainous frontier is disputed.

2)Any PLA invasion would have to flow through mountain passes, all these routes are easily blocked by BM strikes on the mountains overlooking the passes causing avalanches and landslides.
This advantage presents itself tot he PLA as a deterrent to any Indian Invasion of the TAR as well.

3)Most HAN Chinese are still outsiders in the TAR and the indigenous population there is still at odds with them, the presence of SFF Tibetan commandos provides the IA with an ability to cause mayhem behind the lines for any Chinese advance.A man fights that much better when he is fighting and i quote" for the land of his fathers and the temples of his gods"

The PLA knows of all these advantages as well and hence is wary of provoking any conflict as well.

 

[bengalraider]

Reposting with proper pictures!

Choice 3 is the choice I like most , here I've basically thought about an Indian analogue to a Russian Airborne Army . Equipped with SPRUT Tank destroyers, BMD 4 IFVs and NONA 120mm mortar carriers & BTR DG SPAAGs.
This force is armored survivable and airdroppable.

BTR-D SPAAG(this particular pic is from the Georgian war)

SPRUT-SD

Nona mortar

BMD 4
note: Paratrooper badges can be seen on SPRUT, NONA & BMD pics,The BMD 4also has a 100 mm gun capable of taking out many light Tanks on it's own.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

The problem is not how good Brahmos is, but how fast your air force can get dominance in this area.
Those railway bridges are locating deep inside Tibet and far away from Sino-India border. With 290km range, you need send your Su-30 to carry these missiles deep into the Chinese air space that will expose them to the Chinese interceptor. By carrying such a big heavy missile on board, Su-30MKI will become a perfect target to any fighter.

Besides, there is too many ways to disturb cruise missile's navigation system, especially for super-sonic cruise missile. Americans have a good reason of not pursuing for brahmose kind of weapon.

Not agreed. So far as rail line is concern, what you need is to just target one bridge . either big or small. Brahmos have a range of 600 KM in Hi hi profile. There must be numbers of bridges within even 290 KM. Just target one selective bridge after careful selection.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

The problem is not how good Brahmos is, but how fast your air force can get dominance in this area.
Those railway bridges are locating deep inside Tibet and far away from Sino-India border. With 290km range, you need send your Su-30 to carry these missiles deep into the Chinese air space that will expose them to the Chinese interceptor. By carrying such a big heavy missile on board, Su-30MKI will become a perfect target to any fighter.

Besides, there is too many ways to disturb cruise missile's navigation system, especially for super-sonic cruise missile. Americans have a good reason of not pursuing for brahmose kind of weapon.

Not agreed. So far as rail line is concern, what you need is to just target one bridge . either big or small. Brahmos have a range of 600 KM in Hi hi profile. There must be numbers of bridges within even 290 KM from Indian border. . Just target one selective bridge after careful selection.

 

[Panjab47]

It's not himachal pradesh but, Punjab so don't worry, that front is secured.

 

[sasum]

I'd be more worried about them reaching the Chicken's neck to the North east, Delhi has a lot of real estate protecting it before the Chinese can get there.

That chicken neck of just 22 km width is the most vulnerable point when you have as powerful an enemy as china accross the border. India should have held on to Bangladesh for a decade and then sought referendum. Islamic fundoos would have fled and Bangla would have joined Indian federation like Sikkim.

 

[tharun]

Do our army had 3-d maps of terrain bordering china?
Because we can guess all the possible routes where they van come we can choke every possible way..

 

[tharun]

That chicken neck of just 22 km width is the most vulnerable point when you have as powerful an enemy as china accross the border. India should have held on to Bangladesh for a decade and then sought referendum. Islamic fundoos would have fled and Bangla would have joined Indian federation like Sikkim.

Bangaladesh joining india we had enough problems with them as separate country..If they join quarter of country would be in dangerous situation

 

[bengalraider]

Do our army had 3-d maps of terrain bordering china?
Because we can guess all the possible routes where they van come we can choke every possible way..

yes, we do! they have terrain maps from our side as well.

 

[bengalraider]

Bangaladesh joining india we had enough problems with them as separate country..If they join quarter of country would be in dangerous situation

Not necessarily , We could have created a federal structure where Mujib would be free to run the country as he saw fit within domestic boundaries while ceding Foreign policy and military matters to us.
We could have kept out the Wahhabi influence while promoting moderate Bengali Islam, Bangladesh could have been turned into a Malaysia/Indonesia.

 

[tharun]

Not necessarily , We could have created a federal structure where Mujib would be free to run the country as he saw fit within domestic boundaries while ceding Foreign policy and military matters to us.
We could have kept out the Wahhabi influence while promoting moderate Bengali Islam, Bangladesh could have been turned into a Malaysia/Indonesia.

Nice joke..That will never happen,extra 100 million indian haters will be added to our existing account and to congress vote bank

 

[sasum]

Bangaladesh joining india we had enough problems with them as separate country..If they join quarter of country would be in dangerous situation

You are looking against today's backdrop. How do you know what was the sentiment 45 years back? Common sense that ppl of Bangladesh would have looked upto india as big brother. Even now, Bangladeshis, be it hindu or muslim try entire life to come and settle in india.

 

[Superdefender]

Nice joke..That will never happen,extra 100 million indian haters will be added to our existing account and to congress vote bank

We want land, no more people. We want full Pakistan and Bangladesh land, not their people. That way, our people will spread and density will decrease drastically, resulting to lesser pollution and many more benifits.

 

[tharun]

We want land, no more people. We want full Pakistan and Bangladesh land, not their people. That way, our people will spread and density will decrease drastically, resulting to lesser pollution and many more benifits.

So looking and land trying to decrease pollution but where do that hard core indian hater people go

 

[no smoking]

Not agreed. So far as rail line is concern, what you need is to just target one bridge . either big or small. Brahmos have a range of 600 KM in Hi hi profile. There must be numbers of bridges within even 290 KM from Indian border. . Just target one selective bridge after careful selection.

First, there is no railway close to the Sino-India border currently, the potential target you are talking about is still on the paper, the major logistic routes are still road;
Second, even the bridge is built in the future, it is still quite difficult to hit as it will sit within mountains which will disturb the guidance of missile significantly, as the result impair the CEP;
Third, there is quite a lot tech methods to interfere the guidance system, such as fake target, jam satellite signal, interfere the radar detect, etc;
Forth, the limited rage of missile will force India to sent her jet close to the border to shot the missile that will increase the risk of being shot down by Chinese fighter greatly;
Fifth, the American, Russian, Chinese and even Indian engineer have plenty of ways to re-open the bridge within 24 hours.

So, destroying a bridge is not mission impossible but very costly. The cost could be so high that no one wants until your air force dominates that area.

 

[garg_bharat]

We want land, no more people. We want full Pakistan and Bangladesh land, not their people. That way, our people will spread and density will decrease drastically, resulting to lesser pollution and many more benifits.

Are you President or Prime Minister to decide that?? Who do you control. Who will even listen to you?

Stop such stupid comments.

 

[sasum]

I do not know. Migrate to Europe, I guess or make a colony for them in MARS!! They will be the first experiment.

What about rehabilitating them in A&N Islads ?

 

[Superdefender]

What about rehabilitating them in A&N Islads ?

What about rehabilitating them in A&N Islads ?

All of them living in a tiny island!! Not possible. Also we have plans to convert Andaman & Nicobar into a military base. Don't post anymore about this; going offtopic.