Taiwan says China could launch successful invasion by 2020

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TAIPEI (Reuters) - China will be able to fend off U.S. forces and successfully invade Taiwan by 2020, the island's Defence Ministry said on Wednesday, the first time Taipei has given such a precise timetable for the threat it says it faces.

China and Taiwan have been ruled separately since Nationalist forces, defeated by the Communists, fled to the island at the end of the Chinese civil war in 1949. China considers Taiwan a renegade province and has never ruled out the use of force to bring it under its control.

While relations have improved dramatically since the China-friendly Ma Ying-jeou was elected Taiwan president in 2008, with a series of trade and tourism deals, there has been no progress towards political reconciliation or a lessening of military distrust.

In its annual national defence report, Taiwan's Ministry of National Defence cited a number of ways China will likely enhance its military might aimed at Taiwan, including honing its ability to coordinate a landing on the island and deploying anti-aircraft missiles in the Taiwan Strait.

China has been rapidly modernising its sea and air forces as well as missile capabilities, according to the report, so that it will be able to prevent intervention from other nations that would come to Taiwan's defence - a reference to the United States, which is treaty bound to come to the island's aid.

"In the future, the Chinese military will continue focusing on further integration of its military units, with the expectation that it will be able to resist foreign forces' intervention in any attack on Taiwan," the report said.

"Over the long-term, it will be wholly sufficient to engage in a war over Taiwan by 2020."

It was the first time the ministry has publicly issued a specific timetable for China's military build-up to reach globally-dominant levels, said ministry spokesman Luo Shou-he.

China's Defence Ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment, though the government has repeatedly said the world has nothing to fear from its military spending which is needed for legitimate defensive purposes.

China has advertised its long-term military ambitions with shows of new hardware, including its first test flight of a stealth fighter jet in early 2011 and its launch of a fledgling aircraft carrier - both trials of technologies needing years more of development.

Beijing is also building new submarines, ships and anti-ship ballistic missiles as part of its naval modernisation, and has tested emerging technology aimed at destroying missiles in mid-air.

Chinese President Xi Jinping told an envoy from Taiwan on Sunday that a political solution to the standoff over sovereignty could not be postponed forever

Taiwan says China could launch successful invasion by 2020
 

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And we are still sitting on arguing on inducting 126 foreign-made fighter jets and 6 foreign made submarines which have been in the limbo for the last half a decade.
 
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Good for Taiwan of they feel that Jumping can jump onto them!
 

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china has ambitious plans and they implement them fast..........we have a lot more ambitious plans and we implement them when we take a hit.......hats off to our great dirty politicans and god bless china
 

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Corrupt Indian bureaucrats may use this as an opportunity to import more high tech weapons from other countries since it involves China. LOL
 

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This gives usa six years to prepare more than enough time.
Not at all enough!! It will be a tough call once the crisis in USA starts full fledgedly and the confidence on US dollar erodes on the world stage. USA has to beat the crisis and then come out of it.. The war Is imminent.
 
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Not at all enough!! It will be a tough call once the crisis in USA starts full fledgedly and the confidence on US dollar erodes on the world stage. USA has to beat the crisis and then come out of it.. The war Is imminent.
If you noticed the economy has not impacted us military spending.during
Any recession military spending has never been greatly impacted, USA is
Still introducing new weapons global strike weapon,building new generation of
Supercarriers, building new bases Guam and singapore and planning f35
Production and upgrading nuclear warheads.
 

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If you noticed the economy has not impacted us military spending.during
Any recession military spending has never been greatly impacted, USA is
Still introducing new weapons global strike weapon,building new generation of
Supercarriers, building new bases Guam and singapore and planning f35
Production.
There will be a difference between recession and currency crisis. Recession can be fought much easily than a currency crisis especially when the currency in problem is US dollar. That's why I am doubtful of the ability of US to regroup in such a short span of six years even after assuming they will not postpone debt consolidation/bankruptcy/default further. From the looks of it, US isn't willing to reduce even a little bit of spending under Obama. The disaster will only get worse if Obama policy continues further in a similar fashion without cutting the losses.
 
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No matter what happens in the us economy , usa will always have military supremacy as
The top priority.
 

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Does China need to invade Taiwan militarily?

In 2012, around 40% of taiwan's total international trade was towards China!
In 2012, around 95.4billions surplus came from the trade with China while the total trade surplus was only 30.39b!
In 2012, over 2millions of Taiwaneses were working and living in China, which is about 10% of its total population!
In the 2012 election, almost every Taiwan tycoon stood out to support KMT under the instruction of CPC, according to DPP.

China already controlls taiwan economically, why wastes money to invade it in 2020?
 

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Does China need to invade Taiwan militarily?

In 2012, around 40% of taiwan's total international trade was towards China!
In 2012, around 95.4billions surplus came from the trade with China while the total trade surplus was only 30.39b!
In 2012, over 2millions of Taiwaneses were working and living in China, which is about 10% of its total population!
In the 2012 election, almost every Taiwan tycoon stood out to support KMT under the instruction of CPC, according to DPP.

China already controlls taiwan economically, why wastes money to invade it in 2020?
You mean to say that Taiwan will merge with China because of economic dependence?

Or do you imply that CCP rhetoric which says that Taiwanese merger into China cannot get postponed forever is just empty words?
 

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You mean to say that Taiwan will merge with China because of economic dependence?

Or do you imply that CCP rhetoric which says that Taiwanese merger into China cannot get postponed forever is just empty words?
Xi said a "diplomatic solution" cannot be postponed forever, ie talks over re-unification can't be held off indefinately.

As an answer to your first question, go through this article:

http://http://thediplomat.com/flashpoints-blog/2013/08/23/no-missiles-required-how-china-is-buying-taiwans-re-unification/
 
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what a timely thread! today happens to be the 102th anniversary of ROC (Double Ten Day). fireworks at night in Kinmen. personally I feel Mainland and Taiwan should remain associated this way without impractical "reunification". KMT has lost its "Great China" whim and been confined to local politics. undoubtedly it's gonna suffer a landslide defeat in upcoming elections. what is imperative is to make a peace treaty to end hostility entirely in addition to enhancing cultural ties and interwoven economy, and be prepared to cowork with DPP.

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You mean to say that Taiwan will merge with China because of economic dependence?

Or do you imply that CCP rhetoric which says that Taiwanese merger into China cannot get postponed forever is just empty words?
Well, what I mean is that Chinese "invasion" is already finished, why to do it again!
 

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XI Jumping is the President of Taiwan is what you are saying?
hes not, but taiwan economy tie with china is so close that effectively prevent any taiwan politician to announce independence. don't underestimate the soft power china exert on other countries.
 

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hes not, but taiwan economy tie with china is so close that effectively prevent any taiwan politician to announce independence. don't underestimate the soft power china exert on other countries.
It is immaterial.

They still remain to be separate and that is the issue!

The US economy is also highly tied up with China.

But that does not mean the US is de facto ruled by China!
 

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Xi said a "diplomatic solution" cannot be postponed forever, ie talks over re-unification can't be held off indefinately.
Why not? What stops Taiwan from postponing it indefinitely? Taiwan already refused the merger with China. What can China do? And more importantly what will China do?

So China is planning to buy out Taiwan with just a puny 800 million USD investment? So what will the 22+ billion USD investor USA will do?:taunt:
 

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There will be a difference between recession and currency crisis. Recession can be fought much easily than a currency crisis especially when the currency in problem is US dollar. That's why I am doubtful of the ability of US to regroup in such a short span of six years even after assuming they will not postpone debt consolidation/bankruptcy/default further. From the looks of it, US isn't willing to reduce even a little bit of spending under Obama. The disaster will only get worse if Obama policy continues further in a similar fashion without cutting the losses.
Sir, don't think.
never underestimate US as japan did in 45 thinking that great depression had brought US to its kneels. US is very good war economy and US hold highest number of Gold Reserves with government and we all deal in US $, so think about it. and we as citizens holds highest number of gold, even our temples hold gold more than our government any way.

risking an invasion for China is much loss than US as China is more of and export driven market, its 1st in Exports in world and 2nd in imports.
anyway what i feel is tiwan is doing so to get better defence equipment from US as US is denying most of latest tech to it.
just my views!!
 

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