nimo_cn
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Yes, I did.and you were lecturing me yesterday about finding good things in others
India, though being a shithole, has something good left in it and we managed to see that.
Yes, I did.and you were lecturing me yesterday about finding good things in others
Script maybe the same, but it does not mean the language is the same or the dialect is the same.Well, Ray, obviously you have misunderstanding what is a lanaguage and what is the dialect.
Mandrin and Cantoness are the same lanaguage and different dialect. For myself, I barely understand what those hongongness speak, but I can fully understand what they write without any specific training.
This reporter didn't proved anything except a fact - after 150 years colonial history, Hongkong and mainland do have many differences to overcome.
The resaon that INDIANS don't believe the chinese posters is that you guys never planned to accept any truth which doesn't suit you. How many chinese posters have been labelled with "CCP propoganda" or "brainwashed" after you cannot prove their opinions to be wrong.
Ray, you are a professional military officer, but you are not china-problem expert. You have a little bit knowledge about china, but you don't have enough to make any reasonable judgement. It is better for you start listen first instead of rush into your own judgement.
I hope the above explanation to No Smoking on how using the same script does not mean the same language, but different dialects!Ray, do you even speak Cantonese?
Well, I do. For the very basic, Cantonese uses exact same set of written language as Mandarin. It is actually closer to ancient tongue of Chinese language because it include 浊音(a more muddy sound). If you did some more research, you will find out that the region is conquer during Qin Dynasty that is 2000 years ago. Since its greater distance from nomadic group in the north, its tongue is preserved. It even use many ancient form of word such as 調羹 for spoon. Again, it is a region that is conquer for over 2000 yrs. The issue should be settled, the founding father of Republic of China, regarded as father of modern China(國父) by both ROC and PRC, å«ä¸å±± Sun yat sen, are from Guangdong, and speak Cantonese.
You will be doing a favour not only to India, but humanity in general.To be honest, I am not sure. But I am sure I won't go to India.
Coming from those who do not spare any part of anything they eat or any item in the world, be it animal or vegetable, , I am not surprised that you find the anus to be a gastronomical delight!Yes, I did.
India, though being a shithole, has something good left in it and we managed to see that.
The script is more than just similar, it is exactly the same. I mean exactly. Almost without a difference in formal writing language. I do not believe Italian can read Spanish. Cantonese and Mandarin's use exactly same set of characters(mind you Chinese is not phonetic like Latin).Cantonese and Mandarin is use exactly the same writing, period. I'm sure all the Indian local language is not exactly the same in writing(correct me if I am wrong).Script maybe the same, but it does not mean the language is the same or the dialect is the same.
To wit, most languages of India are drawn from Sanskrit. Further, the Devnagiri script is used by many languages of India. Yet they are different languages. Can we also propagate the falsehood that all languages of India are the same because they have the roots in Sanskrit and some languages are dialects of Hindi since they follow the Devnagiri script?
Are all European languages the same, just because they have the Roman script? Or are all languages have the Cyrillic script the same language?
Thus, the contention such because the script is the same and so it is the same language but different dialects is ridiculous! And are mutually unintelligible!
One cannot get more ridiculous than that!
But then go telling the Chinese that who have been assimilated by the Hans to belief in such fairy tales that defy logic!
This is such a rudimentary fact that I am surprised as to why the Chinese go insisting in a falsehood.
However, there is the explanation why the Chinese go livid when historically it is put before them that China was never one, but made one through forcible implantation of the Han cultural arrogance!
The explanation is that the Chinese propaganda calls the different languages of China as 'dialect' since it helps to propagate the 'one China' theory that is dear to them. It is dear to them since China historically was very averse to any recognition of having people in the physical contours of China calling themselves anything but Hans!!
It is another interesting observation that being a military officer one knows nothing of a country not visited.
But then how does one know who has visited and who has not?
One can listen and learn, but then hogwash and tripe?
I can read Italian, Spanish, French, Portuguese, Romanian, Catalan. The use the Latin script. But can I understand the languages?The script is more than just similar, it is exactly the same. I mean exactly. Almost without a difference in formal writing language. I do not believe Italian can read Spanish. Cantonese and Mandarin's use exactly same set of characters(mind you Chinese is not phonetic like Latin).Cantonese and Mandarin is use exactly the same writing, period. I'm sure all the Indian local language is not exactly the same in writing(correct me if I am wrong).
What I mean is the written language is the same to a point that if you can read Chinese, no matter what dialect you speak, you can read and write Chinese regardless of the provincial origins.I can read Italian, Spanish, French, Portuguese, Romanian, Catalan. The use the Latin script. But can I understand?
All these languages borrowed the Latin alphabet, but some use old Norse runic symbols for letters not supplied by the Latin alphabet. English Great
German, Dutch, Flemish, Norwegian, Swedish, Danish,
Slavic European languages either use the Latin alphabet, like English, or the Cyrillic alphabet, like in Russian. I know Russian. I can read Ukrainian, Polish, Czech, Serbo-Crotian, Bulgarian, Slovanian. But can I understand?
Are all these languages dialect of Latin?
Most Indian Languages uses Devnagiri script without even the technical changes in script that is there in the European languages, but under no circumstance are they the same!
Chinese have more complication that other languages of the world since it is different tones!
Well, Hong Kong resident are way wealthier than mainlander on average... It is true they enjoy much greater freedom than mainlander. They do have much greater civic sense. However, the fault lies on the CCP not the people who live in mainland and definitely not on the civilization.But back to the subject.
The Hong Kong chaps have had greater freedom in their lifestyle that the Mainland Chinese and have a greater sense of civic sense.
Thus, they find the Mainlander, though richer, still downright crude and more like village bumpkins!
Hence, all the problems!