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Pakistan’s space programme: Achievable goal or impossible dream?

The Pakistan Remote Sensing Satellite-1 (PRSS-1) was launched by Pakistan from China's Jiuquan Satellite Centre in 2018. PHOTO: FO
Last year, newly anointed Minister for Science and Technology Fawad Chaudhry boldly announced that Pakistan would launch its first manned space mission in 2022, and as expected, many people took to social media to voice their amusement. The statement cracked many smiles and it became the subject of much ridicule and cynicism.
For the first time in a long time, a Pakistani minister had publicly shown interest in and hinted at developing a space programme. Although space travel may not seem like a necessary concern for a developing nation like Pakistan, the feat would require incomparable resources and in the process of utilising those resources our nation may enter into a scientific and technological renaissance. But what will it take to get into space? Are the wishes of the government genuine? How serious are we about boldly going where only a few have gone before?
The idea of space travel is usually torn between the alluring glamour of scientific exploration and the compulsion to direct our resources towards more pressing matters. Of course, space exploration is not only about pushing scientific boundaries but is often also seen as a means to establish dominance between rival countries. Amidst the growing friction between India and Pakistan, it is important to note that India is already far ahead in the space race. In November 2013, India became the first Asian country to launch a space probe to orbit Mars. The Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) also has extensive experience in launching multiple satellites using its own rockets. A major breakthrough came when the country launched a low orbiting satellite, granting the nation the ability to execute ‘space warfare’. Mission Shakti, as it was called, did indeed propel India to join the ranks of countries like America, Russia and China in terms of combative abilities in space.
But despite the progress, India has still not sent an astronaut into space. Perhaps Pakistan can take the lead in this respect. Doing so would certainly help establish our country’s dominance in the region and propel Pakistan towards superpower status. But Pakistan needs to ensure that its space programme is not perceived as being dangerous. Our national pride should not lead to international denunciation.
China, for instance, has not been careful in this respect. It failed to win the trust of the American government and has largely been denied any international cooperation with regards to the development of its own space programme. Similarly, India recently destroyed one of its space satellites, an operation which almost endangered the lives of the astronauts aboard the International Space Station (ISS). As a result, India received severe criticism from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). Therefore, if Pakistan is serious about furthering its capabilities in space, the nation must take a cooperative and inclusive stance at the international level to help ensure future support.
While India is often perceived as being Pakistan’s primary enemy, in reality, there is a far more menacing contender that deserves the badge – climate change. With rising global temperatures, Pakistan, the sixth most populated country in the world, is slowly succumbing to natural catastrophes brought on by completely unnatural means. At least having our own space programme will help the nation better track down the changes in climate, identify precise causes, and create programmes to mitigate the effects of damage done to the atmosphere. This will contribute to research and technological development in the field of meteorology. Of course, any development, whether technological or otherwise will likely be the side-effect of our space programme. As a result, scientific development will begin to flourish in Pakistan and young minds will be inspired to contribute towards their nation’s scientific endeavours.
However, adopting a slightly more pragmatic lens, Pakistan is currently devoid of the skills and knowledge needed to propel the nation towards the final frontier. There are only a handful of universities offering aeronautical engineering degrees and there are yet fewer institutes committed to scientific research and development.
Pakistan needs to generate public interest in space exploration, especially among the youth. Pakistan’s Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (SUPARCO), which was formed in 1961 by Dr Abdus Salam, has largely been denied the funding and resources needed to ensure a sustained rate of advancement and innovation. If the new government is serious about its space ambitions, then it must breathe new life into SUPARCO. The lack of technological infrastructure will undoubtedly serve as a bottleneck since only nine countries currently possess the capabilities to enter into orbit.
Furthermore, Pakistan’s debt has already ballooned in excess of Rs33 trillion and an ambitious space programme will likely pop this balloon. The procuring of necessary items such as space shuttles, a launch pad, mission control facilities, and tracking and data relay satellites are all major capital investments, but they could certainly guarantee heavy returns. To save some of these costs, Pakistan can always request international partners to collaborate and share their facilities. For instance, in 2018, Pakistan launched two homemade satellites using a Chinese launch vehicle. This was a small step, but now the country needs to take bigger leaps.
Recently, Raadeyah Aamir, a Pakistani student aged 12 years, was selected by NASA for its internship programme, giving us a fresh glimmer of hope for our fledgling dreams of space exploration. Perhaps the actualisation of this impossible dream lies in the hands of Pakistan’s youth.
This article was written by a dumbwit.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

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Pakistan’s space programme: Achievable goal or impossible dream?

The Pakistan Remote Sensing Satellite-1 (PRSS-1) was launched by Pakistan from China's Jiuquan Satellite Centre in 2018. PHOTO: FO
Last year, newly anointed Minister for Science and Technology Fawad Chaudhry boldly announced that Pakistan would launch its first manned space mission in 2022, and as expected, many people took to social media to voice their amusement. The statement cracked many smiles and it became the subject of much ridicule and cynicism.



This article was written by a dumbwit.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Dumbwit???? Don't insult Dumbs.

People who can't differentiate between sending a Man and Manned mission are no where in the list of Wit.....
 

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Pakistan’s science minister ‘invites’ top clerics to see ‘how moon cycle works’

Clerics of Pakistan's Moon Sighting Committee search the sky with a telescope for the new moon that signals the start of the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, in Karachi.|Photo Credit: AP
Pakistan had spent ₹3.06 million on the sighting of the moon for Muharram, Ramazan, Eidul Fitr and Eidul Azha in 2018.
In an unusual move, Pakistan’s science and technology minister on Monday invited the country’s two leading clerics to see how “easy” science has made it to predict the lunar calendar to calculate the start of the holy fasting month of Ramzan.
In a statement that could further anger the conservative clerics in the Muslim majority nation, Federal Minister for Science and Technology Fawad Chaudhry invited Mufti Muneebur Rehman and Shahabuddin Popalzai to see how the moon cycle works.
His invitation comes as the government of Prime Minister Imran Khan advocated a science-based lunar calendar to calculate the start of Ramzan.
“We are inviting Maulana Muneebur Rehman and Shahabuddin Popalzai to come and witness how the moon cycle works,” wrote Chaudhry on Twitter.
“And see for themselves how easy science has made it to predict the lunar calendar. There is no need for an arduous task,” he said sarcastically.
Since assuming office as the minister for science and technology, Chaudhry has been pushing for using science for the Islamic calendar and doing away with the traditional moon sighting method used by the Ruet-e-Hilal Committee.
“Every year on the occasion of Ramadan, Eid and Muharram a controversy starts regarding moonsighting,” Chaudhry said in a video he tweeted on May 5 in which he recalled watching the committee use telescopes to make their calculations.
Recently, Pakistan’s lower house was told that ₹3.06 million was spent on the sighting of the moon for Muharram, Ramazan, Eidul Fitr and Eidul Azha in 2018.
Earlier this month, the minister formed a five-member committee comprising officials from the S&T ministry, Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (Suparco) and Pakistan Meteorological Department to prepare a lunar calendar and publish it by the 15th of Ramzan.
Speaking at an event at Karachi University, he said the ministry was also working on a mobile phone app that will enable people to sight the moon on their devices, the Express Tribune reported Monday.
 

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Pakistan’s science minister ‘invites’ top clerics to see ‘how moon cycle works’

Clerics of Pakistan's Moon Sighting Committee search the sky with a telescope for the new moon that signals the start of the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, in Karachi.|Photo Credit: AP
Pakistan had spent ₹3.06 million on the sighting of the moon for Muharram, Ramazan, Eidul Fitr and Eidul Azha in 2018.
20% of the money spent on food for mullahs.
50% of the money spent on their hotel accommodation & services.
25% of the money given to mullahs as donation.
And the rest 5% was spent on their transportation.
 

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20% of the money spent on food for mullahs.
50% of the money spent on their hotel accommodation & services.
25% of the money given to mullahs as donation.
And the rest 5% was spent on their transportation.
And the purpose was:
leading clerics to see how “easy” science has made it to predict the lunar calendar to calculate the start of the holy fasting month of Ramzan.
I don't find any reason why would SUPARCO never want to touch the holy moon!
 
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And the purpose was:

I don't find any reason why would SUPARCO never want to touch the holy moon!
The clerics are not even ready till date to accept that US set foot on Moon and you are searching for reason of why SUPARCO has not attempted it?

Pakistan to come to a grinding halt if even they try to do that. The only people who are fit to do that is IRON BIRADAR.
 

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Fawad Chaudhry launches 'Pakistan's first official' moonsighting website

Federal Minister for Science and Technology Fawad Chaudhry on Sunday launched what he termed as Pakistan's "first official" moonsighting website and a calendar showing main Islamic dates and months for the next five years based on scientific evidence.
The website, pakmoonsighting.pk, has been launched by Chaudhry's ministry "to halt the moonsighting controversy" that rears its head in the country every year prior to religious festivals.
Named Moon Sighting Pakistan, the website features sections such as a monthly Hijri (Islamic) calendar for the next five years, a day-to-day lunar calendar against dates from the Gregorian calendar, and the dates on which the first day of every lunar month will fall.
Also available are the scientifically determined dates for all major Islamic festivals/days for the ongoing and next years. Readers can access year-wise data about the New Crescent Moon, monthly moon visibility maps and monthly moon coordinates in major cities on the site as well.
Chaudhry had earlier this month announced that the lunar calendar being prepared by a scientific committee formed by the government and showing the exact dates of important Islamic occasions — Ramazan, Eidul Fitr, Eidul Azha, Muharram — would be finalised by the 15th of Ramazan.
He had said that a mobile phone app was also under preparation by the scientific committee after which people would also be able to sight moon on their smartphones.
On May 3, the minister had formed a committee of five experts from the ministry of science and technology, Meteorological Department and the Pakistan Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (Suparco) to determine moonsighting for key Islamic dates and months scientifically, putting an end to the practice of looking for it physically through telescopes.
The National Assembly was informed recently that an amount of Rs3.06 million was spent last year on the sighting of the crescent for Muharram, Ramazan, Eidul Fitr and Eidul Azha.
 

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Pakistan’s space programme: Achievable goal or impossible dream?

The Pakistan Remote Sensing Satellite-1 (PRSS-1) was launched by Pakistan from China's Jiuquan Satellite Centre in 2018. PHOTO: FO
Last year, newly anointed Minister for Science and Technology Fawad Chaudhry boldly announced that Pakistan would launch its first manned space mission in 2022, and as expected, many people took to social media to voice their amusement. The statement cracked many smiles and it became the subject of much ridicule and cynicism.



This article was written by a dumbwit.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

It seems that under Imran khan SUPARCO is becoming more lean and focused. Pakistani Human space flight program and mission 2040 roadmap is impressive. This reminds me of early days of ISRO. They still have a long way to go to be in the same league of ISRO but it seems that they are trying hard to reach there.
 

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It seems that under Imran khan SUPARCO is becoming more lean and focused. Pakistani Human space flight program and mission 2040 roadmap is impressive. This reminds me of early days of ISRO. They still have a long way to go to be in the same league of ISRO but it seems that they are trying hard to reach there.
Lol. You need scientific temper and funds to do anything worthwhile in space exploration. Porkistan has neither.
 

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Lol. You need scientific temper and funds to do anything worthwhile in space exploration. Porkistan has neither.
They are slowly moving in that direction. Remember when ISRO first began we had neither of those but look where we are today. Such endeavors take time.
 

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They are slowly moving in that direction. Remember when ISRO first began we had neither of those but look where we are today. Such endeavors take time.
Absolutely false, ISRO and it's predecessor the Indian National Committee for Space Research (INCOSPAR) was set up in 1962 and it did not arise out of nowhere, DAE was working on setting up a space agency in 1950s, there were a few observatories at university and state levels, already a few experiments had been performed, including early sounding rockets and underground experiments.

Moreover, ISRO since its inception has always been headed by visionary scientists, from Vikram Sarabhi to A Kiran Kumar. Sufficient funds may not have always been forthcoming, but the mandate was never tampered with. ISRO never wavered from their founding principles and continued along their path.

SUPARCO on the other hand was another get-rich-quick scheme that was envisaged in the hope of gaining rocket tech from Western allies for military applications. For most of its existence, it has been headed by retired faujis and they have neither a scientific culture not spirit in that institution. There's no research of any worth happening there, no scientists of any name and no facilities to speak of.

Of course, none of these are insurmountable challenges, they can be overcome and the course set right, with the right set of people, right decision making and ample funds. Napakis lack on every front. For them SUPARACO will be primarily about military applications against India and so they'll never allow the agency to come out of a narrow parochial view point.

Transfer of low-level tech from China can allow them to brag a little, but an institutional overhaul will need much much more.
 

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Absolutely false, ISRO and it's predecessor the Indian National Committee for Space Research (INCOSPAR) was set up in 1962 and it did not arise out of nowhere, DAE was working on setting up a space agency in 1950s, there were a few observatories at university and state levels, already a few experiments had been performed, including early sounding rockets and underground experiments.

Moreover, ISRO since its inception has always been headed by visionary scientists, from Vikram Sarabhi to A Kiran Kumar. Sufficient funds may not have always been forthcoming, but the mandate was never tampered with. ISRO never wavered from their founding principles and continued along their path.

SUPARCO on the other hand was another get-rich-quick scheme that was envisaged in the hope of gaining rocket tech from Western allies for military applications. For most of its existence, it has been headed by retired faujis and they have neither a scientific culture not spirit in that institution. There's no research of any worth happening there, no scientists of any name and no facilities to speak of.

Of course, none of these are insurmountable challenges, they can be overcome and the course set right, with the right set of people, right decision making and ample funds. Napakis lack on every front. For them SUPARACO will be primarily about military applications against India and so they'll never allow the agency to come out of a narrow parochial view point.

Transfer of low-level tech from China can allow them to brag a little, but an institutional overhaul will need much much more.
Both India and pakistan have ballistic missiles. A Ballistic missile first travels to space and travels to the destination in space and then releases its warhead, which drops through atmosphere and reaches it destination on the ground.

So for someone who has a ballistic missile, putting a satellite in LEO or GEO orbit is no big deal.

India initially built satellite launch vehicles and then went on to design and develop ballistic vehicles. pakistan on the other side came up with ballistic missiles without any prior experience in satellite launch vehicles.
 

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pakistan on the other side came up with ballistic missiles without any prior experience in satellite launch vehicles.
They did not build a single ballistic (or for that matter any other) missile of their own, painting ancient NoKo/Cheeni maal != "came up with ballistic missiles"

I have heard this oft-quoted argument (mostly from Napakis) that missile tech equals easy SLV tech.

Well they are free to demonstrate, even with imported Cheeni maal if they can.
 

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It seems that under Imran khan SUPARCO is becoming more lean and focused.
Well, WOW!! :lawl:
Pakistani Human space flight program and mission 2040 roadmap is impressive.
Having a half to one dozen satellites for communication in orbit is good enough for survival in peacetime only.

There is no "development" planned for any sort of exploration project and inclined launchers/payloads.

Not impressive but given declining Pakistani economy and its living standards with respect to rest of world, its perfect.
This reminds me of early days of ISRO.
ISRO didn't use to track Moon for Karva Chauth. You know what I mean.
They still have a long way to go to be in the same league of ISRO but it seems that they are trying hard to reach there.
By dropping budget of agency by 40%, putting even current ongoing small programs on hold, I don't think that they even wanna try. They always do small chatar patar and exaggerate it to make their local audience believe that Pakistan has deterrent.

But seems that they have reached a stage where they don't have money even to do this. SUPARCO catching up is as stupid as believing that UPA was better than NDA in commitments to scientific researches in context of India.

I remember a YouTube copy paste from paki comment:
tumhare paas bas 1 operational satellite hai, hamare paas 2 hain
Anyway, I will live well past 2040. Let's see even how many sounding rockets they launch till then.
 
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Seems that Pakistan is leading us now. Was always leading, in mental tossing.
Re: Pakistan and Russia sign a joint statement. No first placement of weapons in outer space.
What is the significance of this for Pakistan?
This means if USA places weapons in space we will follow. If India places weapons we will place them too. Ball is in their court.
What best can Pakistan do even if someone else places a weapon in space?
It's not like space weapons render our nukes obsolete...
US have 'surprises' up there but information is really limited. Pakistan's space program is far behind Indian, let alone American.
Try weaponizing space and you will get your surprise.
My friend you are too much high on US patriotim and you forgot the statement was no given by Pakistan solo. The statement was given by Russia and Pakistan. If we don't have it we will be given. Don't worry you have India we have Russia and China. Tech comes and goes it is an easy trade. Russia will need many tech from Pakistan and Pakistan will need many from Russia. Global trade continues. USA till date imports rocket engine from Russia for peaceful purpose.
Sparco has developed it's own Sat. Pakistan has many more SATs underdevelopment and SPARCO is at helm of it. You are high on American patriotism. Russians are leaders of space age USA still imports Russian engines to send any this in space. India uses Russian engines for it's space program.
So what are you telling me about tech when you all use Russian engines for space. Pakistan and Russia delivered warmongers a good message.
It means we have the capabilities but we are not going to deploy first, if anyone try to deploy weapons in space, we too will deploy
Weaponising space is not difficult. Pakistan has the potential to do this years ago.
Anyone who can develop a satellite can weaponise space. You simply make a sattelite that explodes. The idea would be to sling it into close orbit of other satellites and explode it, damaging other sattelites.
It's crude but the concept has existed for years. Anti sattelite missiles is not a huge tech leap either. USA, China, ussr sat on that tech for years.
anyone with a half a brain cell knows wha Pakistan is capable of. Just cuz we haven't tested it, doesn't mean we don't have it or can't make it.

We speak softly but carry a big stick. just ask our loud mouth neighbor who got violated in their bungholes with our big stick!
Imagine on the day of orbital launch, whenever it comes.:biggrin2:
Mere azeez hamwatno, Is launch ke baad Pakistan ek aitmi kuwwat ke saath saath gardish mein sahlaayi mission bhejne waala waahid musalmaan mulk ban gaya hai. Alhamdulillha yeh humaare sciencedaano ke josh, jazabe aur imaan ka saboot hai aur iske saath humne india ko bhi pachaard diya hai....

Inshallah, Cheen is agla rocket milne par.....merrraa matlab hai...humaare sciendaano ke naya rocket taiyaar karne par hum 3 kilo ke bajaaye 4 kilo ki satellite launch kar sakeinge.
 

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Seems that Pakistan is leading us now. Was always leading, in mental tossing.
Re: Pakistan and Russia sign a joint statement. No first placement of weapons in outer space.













Imagine on the day of orbital launch, whenever it comes.:biggrin2:
I know what is coming next after exploding satellites.

Exploding astronauts!
 

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