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But neither can Tejas fire upto 100 Kms. Derby's got a range of 50 Kms. And even Jaguar has been integrated with ASRAAM with a range of 50 Kms.
Now tell me this :
Can tejas carry Sudarshan LGB as of now ?
Can it carry ASM like sea Eagle as of now ?
Once quartz radar dome is installed it can fire even the 120 Km range meteor,

A pylon is only rated for weapon weight, not weapon name, understanding which has become your big problem.

tejas has pylons that are capable of carrying 150 Kg, 800 kg and 1.2 ton weight under it's each wing

, and a center line pylon of 1.2 tons in mk-1,

So any weapon that is within the weight limit can be carried on it once FOC is over,





In mk-2 the pay load and fuel fraction of tejas mk-2 will increase in a substantial manner, Also it's fuel fraction too will go up increasing it's range. And it will be almost on par with Grippen NG,

So there are no missions that can be done by jag that can not be done by tejas.

With fly by wire RSS it too can perform low level intrusion like jag, Unlike jag when challenged Tejas can engage in close combat like a true air to air fighter, which can never be done by a Jag.

Thats why I have been saying that pilots of jag are more valuable than the fighter called jag in 2020.

You can not afford to send the cream of your fighting men in obsolete airframes, what ever be the engine upgrade and avionics upgrade fact is it is a post world war era trainer with secondary strike capability as it's design goal.

If challenged will jag be able to take on and defeat a PAF F-16 or PLAF J-10?

For the same Jag pilot the chances are better if he is inside the Tejas cockpit when challenged.

talk of AMCA replacing the jags is simply too far fetched, when Tejas mk-2 is available at an economical cost now , no need to fly jags till 2030, (in time for substantial number of AMCA to be in fleet.)


When upgraded the best missions for jags is to stay close to the front lines and provide close air support to IA, with air superiority fighters escort,


which is a very critical job nothing to be disparaged about. So it does have a useful role .

So for limited penetration and deep strike in large numbers tejas will be more suitable both in mk-1 and even better in mk-2 versions,

because when challenged tejas can drop it's ground bombs fire off its BVRs and engage in close combat like a true air superiority fighter, and it's lower clean config RCS is also a huge plus in this close combat . because once it drops it's external fuel tanks and ground bombs ,

with just two WVR missiles it's RCS will drop ell below 0.5 sq meter making it impossible for tejas to be targeted by enemy fire control radars and AWACS radars from any meaningful BVR engagement distance,
 
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Once quartz radar dome is installed it can fire even the 120 Km range meteor,

A pylon is only rated for weapon weight, not weapon name, understanding which has become your big problem.

tejas has pylons that are capable of carrying 150 Kg, 800 kg and 1.2 ton weight under it's each wing

, and a center line pylon of 1.2 tons in mk-1,

So any weapon that is within the weight limit can be carried on it once FOC is over,





In mk-2 the pay load and fuel fraction of tejas mk-2 will increase in a substantial manner, Also it's fuel fraction too will go up increasing it's range. And it will be almost on par with Grippen NG,

So there are no missions that can be done by jag that can not be done by tejas.

With fly by wire RSS it too can perform low level intrusion like jag, Unlike jag when challenged Tejas can engage in close combat like a true air to air fighter, which can never be done by a Jag.

Thats why I have been saying that pilots of jag are more valuable than the fighter called jag in 2020.

You can not afford to send the cream of your fighting men in obsolete airframes, what ever be the engine upgrade and avionics upgrade fact is it is a post world war era trainer with secondary strike capability as it's design goal.

If challenged will jag be able to take on and defeat a PAF F-16 or PLAF J-10?

For the same Jag pilot the chances are better if he is inside the Tejas cockpit when challenged.

talk of AMCA replacing the jags is simply too far fetched, when Tejas mk-2 is available at an economical cost now , no need to fly jags till 2030, (in time for substantial number of AMCA to be in fleet.)


When upgraded the best missions for jags is to stay close to the front lines and provide close air support to IA, with air superiority fighters escort,


which is a very critical job nothing to be disparaged about. So it does have a useful role .

So for limited penetration and deep strike in large numbers tejas will be more suitable both in mk-1 and even better in mk-2 versions,
I'll agree on every single point you said.
But carraige trails are still important.. Had it been the way you said Su-30 would have never undergone carraige trails with Astra since its lighter than R-77
 

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Fire Up Defence Industry - The New Indian Express

Put this development in perspective. The prototype of the indigenous multi-role Marut HF-24 supersonic combat aircraft, the first ever produced outside the United States and Europe, took to the skies over Bangalore in 1961.

That project should have led to the emergence of a comprehensively-capable Indian defence industry supplying the Indian military and the rest of the Third World, and as generator of high-technologies to drive the economy.

Instead, between a foreign aircraft-fixated Indian Air Force and short-sighted Indian politicians (to wit, defence minister Krishna Menon who decided against sanctioning `5 crore for rejigging the Orpheus-12R engine with reheat the British firm Bristol-Siddeley had produced as power plant for a NATO fighter to fit the HF-24) the Marut was eliminated on the excuse of being "under-powered".

It aborted growth of the defence industry in general, habituated the Defence Public Sector Units (DPSUs) to an endless cycle of licensed manufacture, and turned the country into an arms dependency that can be jerked around at will by foreign suppliers.
jag was the direct beneficiary of the decision to shelve the 5 Cr funding for Bristol sidley, which killed indian aviation industry in the seventies,

http://archive.indianexpress.com/ne...ner-congress-over--rajiv-gandhi-deal/1099356/

"These revelations are serious. The nation has a right to know the truth. These are 30 years old documents which point out to a possible connection of late Prime Minister Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi in different defence acquisitions," BJP spokesperson Prakash Javadekar said.

"The party owes an explanation and the government must make all related documents public," he added.

A newspaper report today claimed that as per secret cables leaked by Wikileaks Rajiv Gandhi may have been a middleman for the Swedish company Saab-Scania, when it was trying to sell its Viggen fighter aircraft to India in the 1970s. His mother Indira Gandhi was the Prime Minister then. The Congress has trashed the claim as "baseless".

"There is an accusation that Rajiv Gandhi is playing some role in aircraft purchase and Indira Gandhi taking a final call in defence deals. These allegations become even more serious against the backdrop of the helicopter scams," Javadekar said, referring to the Augusta Westland deal which came to light recently.

Javadekar maintained that earlier there were charges of Italian businessman Ottavio Qauttrochi's involvement in the Bofors scam.

"Why is it that in deals of Swedish and Italian firms, there is a reference to the (Gandhi) family," Javadekar said.
And the deal is talking about DPSA which ultimately was won by JAGUAR,

it was alleged that Another scion of the indian first family was mentioned as fronting for JAGUAR,

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/tag/wikileaks/
The astonishing revelation that he was the "main Indian negotiator" for a massive aircraft deal for which his "family" connections were seen as valuable, is contained in the Kissinger Cables, the latest tranche of U.S diplomatic cables obtained by WikiLeaks and accessed by The Hindu as part of an investigative collaboration. The cables will be released on Monday.

The British SEPECAT Jaguar eventually won the race, from which Saab was forced to withdraw by the U.S.

Rajiv Gandhi, who kept away from politics until he was pushed into it by his mother Indira after the death of his brother Sanjay in 1980, came into public life with a squeaky clean image. Years later, a controversy over bribes paid in another military deal with a different Swedish company, Bofors, was to lead to Rajiv's and the Congress's defeat in the 1989 elections.

A series of 41 cables between 1974 and 1976 give glimpses into the "fighter sweepstakes" in India, with one wryly observing that the Swedish company had "understood the importance of family influences in the final decision in the fighter sweepstakes."

Dassault, the French aircraft maker, too had figured this out. According to the cable, their negotiator for the Mirage fighter aircraft was the son-in-law of Air Marshal O.P. Mehra, then Air Chief.

DECISION NOT TO PURCHASE BRITISH JAGUAR BECAUSE OF HER PREJUDICES AGAINST BRITISH. DECISION WOULD BE BETWEEN MIRAGE AND VIGGEN. THE SWEDISH DIPLOMAT SAID THAT SWEDEN'S NEUTRAL POSITION IN WORLD POLI- TICS IS OFFSETTING VIGGEN'S HIGHER COST. HE EXPRESSED IRRITATION AT THE WAY MRS. GANDHI IS PERSONALLY DOMINATING NE- GOTIATIONS, WITHOUT INVOLVEMENT OF INDIAN AIR FORCE OFFICERS. 3. ACCORDING TO SWEDISH EMBOFF, NEGOTIATIONS WITH SWEDES ARE FOR 50 VIGGEN AIRCRAFT TO BE DELIVERED AT $4-5 MILLION PER AIRCRAFT* SWEDES BELIEVE INDIANS HAVE MADE DECISION NOT TO PURCHASE ANY MORE SOVIET MILITARY AIRCRAFT. 4. DAO COMMENT: DAO HAS NO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO EITHER REFUTE OR CONFIRM THE ABOVE INFORMATION. SAXBE CONFIDENTIAL NNN"
If the 5 cr funding for bristol sydley materialized marut would have taken the place of jag in IAF, and the history of indian mil aviation would have been a story of exports not forex draining imports and continuous imported upgrades,denyin gthe local industry any meaningful play,

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...ritish-plane-says-us-cable/article4595916.ece

The Maruti company, in which Sanjay Gandhi had major stakes, actively sought, and was rumoured to have got, the role of agent for the British Aircraft Corporation in its sales efforts in India during the 1970s, according to Kissinger-era U.S. embassy dispatches obtained and released by WikiLeaks on Monday.

In a cable dated July 7, 1976 (1976NEWDE09954_b, Secret), the U.S. embassy in New Delhi said a "British Aircraft Corporation team that visited India to compete agains[t] Dutch and American aircraft suppliers was approached and offered the assistance of the Maruti company, a firm controlled by Sanjay Gandhi." According to the Americans, "BAC replied that something could certainly be worked out."

The cable was sent by the embassy in response to a State Department request for a comprehensive assessment of India's anti-corruption laws to work on an "international agreement on illicit payments."

In 1976, negotiations were going on in two major aircraft deals: Deep Penetration Strike Aircraft (DPSA) for the Indian Air Force and twin-jet commercial aircraft for Indian Airlines. BAC was in the running for both. The Jaguar — manufactured by SEPECAT, a joint venture of BAC and the French firm Breguet — was the eventual winner of the DPSA race with French firm Dassault's Mirage and the Swedish Saab-Scania's Viggen fighter. In the Indian Airlines negotiation, the competition was among BAC 111-474, U.S. firm Boeing's 737-200, and the Dutch Fokker's F-28 Mark 4000.

While no American firms were in the running for the DPSA due to the U.S. arms embargo on India and Pakistan at the time, the commercial aircraft sale was a different ball game. The U.S. embassy was desperately trying to swing the deal towards Boeing by prodding the Exim Bank of the U.S. to provide favourable financing to the Indian government, as is evident from a series of cables on talks among embassy, State Department, Boeing and Exim bank officials. The embassy was keeping a close eye on the offers from BAC and Fokker and Sanjay Gandhi's apparent involvement with BAC made it nervous.

In a cable dated July 30, 1976 (1976NEWDE11152_b, Confidential), the embassy says it "understands Maruti (in which Sanjay Gandhi has interest) is negotiating for BAC agency in India." By August 27, the Embassy has "heard unconfirmed rumors that Maruti also repsents [sic] BAC" (1976NEWDE12666_b, Confidential). It rues that "these and perhaps other political factors, none of which seem to favor US procurement, could have a bearing on the final outsome[sic]." The embassy implicates all other countries involved in the two deals by stating in its July 7 cable that "Dutch, Swiss and French firms are equally know[n] for their willingness to make contributions."

Boeing ultimately won the Indian Airlines deal, based on the 737's technical superiority and well-arranged financing — if separate cables on the negotiations are to be believed.
thats why replacement of foreign fighters with indian mad fighters in huge numbers alone can herald the birth of indian aviation industry and emergence of india as a global power.

So a token order of just 124 Tejas from IAF is just an eyewash demeaning the potential of this top class 4.5th gen MRCA tejas .

With more than 400 near obsolete fleet of fighters in IAF fleet it is astonishing that powers that be in the indian dfefence higher ups is resisting giving orders in high numbers to tejas mk-1 and mk-2 citing meaningless reasons and trying to fill its fleet with foreign fighters once more,

The same drama is repeated on Arjun also, despite both Arjun and tejas built taking into consideration of the all the Services wishes and recommendations.
 
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Re: IAF to buy 14 Tejas squadrons

first you must explain how a single rafale is equal to 5 tejas. Otherwise all your other assumptions fall flat. And about the mirages production having ended so its costly. That is not our problem. All we have to do is a cost to benefit analysis. Its not our problem that the french cant give me an upgrade for normal amounts. I am getting a brand new aircraft better than the mirage 2000 in air to air.(And the mirage originally was marketed as mainly an air superiority fighter first). I am getting much more benefit in tejas including more work for domestic industries.
go though the upgrade .......

it is as if a new a/c is being build.
so the cost HAS to be as if it is a new plane.
 

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Fire Up Defence Industry - The New Indian Express



jag was the direct beneficiary of the decision to shelve the 5 Cr funding for Bristol sidley, which killed indian aviation industry in the seventies,

WikiLeaks expose: BJP seeks to corner Congress over Rajiv Gandhi deal - Indian Express



And the deal is talking about DPSA which ultimately was won by JAGUAR,

it was alleged that Another scion of the indian first family was mentioned as fronting for JAGUAR,

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/tag/wikileaks/


If the 5 cr funding for bristol sydley materialized marut would have taken the place of jag in IAF, and the history of indian mil aviation would have been a story of exports not forex draining imports and continuous imported upgrades,denyin gthe local industry any meaningful play,

Sanjay Gandhi's Maruti sought to bat for British plane, says U.S. cable - The Hindu



thats why replacement of foreign fighters with indian mad fighters in huge numbers alone can herald the birth of indian aviation industry and emergence of india as a global power.

So a token order of just 124 Tejas from IAF is just an eyewash demeaning the potential of this top class 4.5th gen MRCA tejas .

With more than 400 near obsolete fleet of fighters in IAF fleet it is astonishing that powers that be in the indian dfefence higher ups is resisting giving orders in high numbers to tejas mk-1 and mk-2 citing meaningless reasons and trying to fill its fleet with foreign fighters once more,

The same drama is repeated on Arjun also, despite both Arjun and tejas built taking into consideration of the all the Services wishes and recommendations.
These Gandhis have destroyed our country every bit of it

Btw nice video :fish:
 

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Afaik, From its test pilots and designers mouth, It can adapt any ASM and ARM in IAF arsenal, As the radar is our, We can program it for any weapon available to us ..

To be exact, Originally Tejas are meant to carry KH-35 but now they can carry AGM-84, in ARM role it can deploy KH-31P or in future if US provided us AGM-88 then it can carry that too ..

Kunal sir.. What ASM and ARM will Tejas carry according to you, Will it be Sea Eagle and Kh-31P as Jaguar or something else..
 

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These aircrafts will be falling like leaves in an well networked Air Defense system.
You are right but no 4th & 4.5th generation will be safe against well networked Air defence , If im not wrong Electronic and counter measure strategy will be analysed and will be put in place my any airforce before going offensive

I Iwsh India has Flying battle tanks for Army mini airforce & in IAF most probably Rafale or AMCA will replace:thumb:
 

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Once quartz radar dome is installed it can fire even the 120 Km range meteor,

A pylon is only rated for weapon weight, not weapon name, understanding which has become your big problem.

tejas has pylons that are capable of carrying 150 Kg, 800 kg and 1.2 ton weight under it's each wing

, and a center line pylon of 1.2 tons in mk-1,

So any weapon that is within the weight limit can be carried on it once FOC is over,





In mk-2 the pay load and fuel fraction of tejas mk-2 will increase in a substantial manner, Also it's fuel fraction too will go up increasing it's range. And it will be almost on par with Grippen NG,

So there are no missions that can be done by jag that can not be done by tejas.

With fly by wire RSS it too can perform low level intrusion like jag, Unlike jag when challenged Tejas can engage in close combat like a true air to air fighter, which can never be done by a Jag.

Thats why I have been saying that pilots of jag are more valuable than the fighter called jag in 2020.

You can not afford to send the cream of your fighting men in obsolete airframes, what ever be the engine upgrade and avionics upgrade fact is it is a post world war era trainer with secondary strike capability as it's design goal.

If challenged will jag be able to take on and defeat a PAF F-16 or PLAF J-10?

For the same Jag pilot the chances are better if he is inside the Tejas cockpit when challenged.

talk of AMCA replacing the jags is simply too far fetched, when Tejas mk-2 is available at an economical cost now , no need to fly jags till 2030, (in time for substantial number of AMCA to be in fleet.)


When upgraded the best missions for jags is to stay close to the front lines and provide close air support to IA, with air superiority fighters escort,


which is a very critical job nothing to be disparaged about. So it does have a useful role .

So for limited penetration and deep strike in large numbers tejas will be more suitable both in mk-1 and even better in mk-2 versions,

because when challenged tejas can drop it's ground bombs fire off its BVRs and engage in close combat like a true air superiority fighter, and it's lower clean config RCS is also a huge plus in this close combat . because once it drops it's external fuel tanks and ground bombs ,

with just two WVR missiles it's RCS will drop ell below 0.5 sq meter making it impossible for tejas to be targeted by enemy fire control radars and AWACS radars from any meaningful BVR engagement distance,
Man really topclass has inside out of OUR LCA thanks :thumb: LCA is Multirole fighter where as JAG is deep penetration bomber since it flies really well in nip of earth formation avoiding radars:thumb:

One clear advantage JAG's have on LCA is it can take of or land in semi prepared runway , in below video it is clear
 
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Man really topclass has inside out of OUR LCA thanks :thumb:
Please do check ersakthivel's post's on Arjun MK2, there you'll find gamut of knowledge on Battle Tanks and discussions by other esteemed members of DFI, apart from this i would personally like to suggest you to go through counter arguments on LCA Tejas to understand better. These discussions are backed by sound technical info and not just print media garbage.
 

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Jaguar replacement must be as capable in LA flight missions and as survivable as Jag is.
Is a Tejas as durable, robust and survivable as Jag under an enemy fire?
 

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Jaguar replacement must be as capable in LA flight missions and as survivable as Jag is.
Is a Tejas as durable, robust and survivable as Jag under an enemy fire?
Even the upgraded jaguar (with IAF) cannot hold a candle to Tejas.
Tejas can do everything that a Jag can & then, much more. Jaguars are just blind, sitting ducks in this era.
 
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Even the upgraded jaguar (with IAF) cannot hold a candle to Tejas.
Tejas can do everything that a Jag can & then, much more. Jaguars are just blind, sitting ducks in this era.
No. The Jaguars have an entirely different design.

For one, Jaguars with drop tanks outrange any aircraft that we have, even MKI, when performing lo-lo-lo missions. Tejas cannot even compare. Beyond that Jaguar is armored and has much better avionics for strike missions. Aerodynamics also support Jaguar's lo-lo-lo missions with its high wing loading versus low wing loading on Tejas.

The new upgrade will give it a radar as well. The EL/M 2032. It will be at the same class as the one on Tejas. But it may be more optimized for ground strike missions. The Jaguar's Raytheon MCU upgrade will also enable it to carry many western weapons that Tejas won't be cleared for. Eg: CBU-105 sensor fused weapon which was ordered for Jaguars along with a whole host of other American and Israeli A2G weapons. The Israelis are releasing a new generation LGB and we are buying 500 of them.

Then Jaguars can also be equipped with Aim-120C-5 if required and there is a contract out for 384 ASRAAMs. Both missiles are better than Derby and Python-V that is going on Tejas.

The weapons options on Jaguar simply outclasses Tejas. Jaguar isn't designed for air to air missions though, but when it comes to strike mission we currently don't have a better aircraft.
 

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Will you care to explain [keeping in mind Tejas is our own bird and any kind of changes/modifications can be done at any point of time] why and how Tejas can not integrate CBU-105 censor fused weapon/Aim-120C-5 or any other weapons that can be integrated on Jaguar ?

I feel you are insulting a 4.5+ Gen fighter by comparing with obsolete fighter.. [Just like to know how you feel if Gripen is compared with F22/PAKFA]
No. The Jaguars have an entirely different design.

For one, Jaguars with drop tanks outrange any aircraft that we have, even MKI, when performing lo-lo-lo missions. Tejas cannot even compare. Beyond that Jaguar is armored and has much better avionics for strike missions. Aerodynamics also support Jaguar's lo-lo-lo missions with its high wing loading versus low wing loading on Tejas.

The new upgrade will give it a radar as well. The EL/M 2032. It will be at the same class as the one on Tejas. But it may be more optimized for ground strike missions. The Jaguar's Raytheon MCU upgrade will also enable it to carry many western weapons that Tejas won't be cleared for. Eg: CBU-105 sensor fused weapon which was ordered for Jaguars along with a whole host of other American and Israeli A2G weapons. The Israelis are releasing a new generation LGB and we are buying 500 of them.

Then Jaguars can also be equipped with Aim-120C-5 if required and there is a contract out for 384 ASRAAMs. Both missiles are better than Derby and Python-V that is going on Tejas.

The weapons options on Jaguar simply outclasses Tejas. Jaguar isn't designed for air to air missions though, but when it comes to strike mission we currently don't have a better aircraft.
 
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Will you care to explain [keeping in mind Tejas is our own bird and any kind of changes/modifications can be done at any point of time] why and how Tejas can not integrate CBU-105 censor fused weapon/Aim-120C-5 or any other weapons that can be integrated on Jaguar ?

I feel you are insulting a 4.5+ Gen fighter by comparing with obsolete fighter.. [Just like to know how you feel if Gripen is compared with F22/PAKFA]
Don't feel that I am interfering,but we made Jags from scratch in India as recently as 2008,and knows the a/c inside out. HAL even had FBW added to it in its upgrade. Jags were built as a strike aircraft,with swept wings,twin engines and rugged build (it can take off from unpaved runways),a Jag is always a better performer than Tejas when it comes to low-medium altitude attack missions
 

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Thanks for reply.. Well I will agree with your first 2 sentances.

Now we shall let him explain how some weapon integration makes Jaguar superior to Tejas where in he state some weapon integration on Jaguar make it superior to Tejas. If thats true why that weapon integration not possible on Tejas..

Would also request you to elaborate more on maintenance & cost to operate of Jaguar [twin engine] to Tejas.

Don't feel that I am interfering,but we made Jags from scratch in India as recently as 2008,and knows the a/c inside out. HAL even had FBW added to it in its upgrade. Jags were built as a strike aircraft,with swept wings,twin engines and rugged build (it can take off from unpaved runways),a Jag is always a better performer than Tejas when it comes to low-medium altitude attack missions
 

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I think, the best we could do now is to give it the F125IN Honeywell engine and DARIN3 upgrades and its future is secured till 2030. LCA will be more of true multirole aircraft and till any other can carry the CBU-105SFW, the Jag will remain the deadliest air to ground pounder against vehicles. in IAF's inventory.
 

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Thanks for reply.. Well I will agree with your first 2 sentances.

Now we shall let him explain how some weapon integration makes Jaguar superior to Tejas where in he state some weapon integration on Jaguar make it superior to Tejas. If thats true why that weapon integration not possible on Tejas..

Would also request you to elaborate more on maintenance & cost to operate of Jaguar [twin engine] to Tejas.
Once again bro,there is no comparison b/w Tejas and Jags,and therefore Tejas cannot be seen as an exact replacement for Jags.Tejas of course can perform the roles of a Jag,but not in the way Jag could do them,for Jags were tailor made for them. Had we been a cash strapped air force,we could've lived with it,fortunately we aren't.
IMO,its too early to talk about the replacement of Jags,as @Immanuel rightly pointed out,with the coming upgrades,Jags will see atleast 20 yrs more service. Its perhaps the best attack aircraft we ever had. It would be the A-10 of IAF,wereas Tejas would be our f-16.
Also,I don't see why we cannot integrate any weapon in Tejas,that we can on Jags (except the nuke bomb;Jags and Mirages are the only ones cleared to fly with nuke bombs in IAF).
About the engines,twin engines are an advantage for attack aircraft,and IAF is not that kinda an airforce to worry about maintaining a twin engined aircraft.
 
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Will you care to explain [keeping in mind Tejas is our own bird and any kind of changes/modifications can be done at any point of time] why and how Tejas can not integrate CBU-105 censor fused weapon/Aim-120C-5 or any other weapons that can be integrated on Jaguar ?

I feel you are insulting a 4.5+ Gen fighter by comparing with obsolete fighter.. [Just like to know how you feel if Gripen is compared with F22/PAKFA]
Firstly, LCA Mk1 is nowhere close to being a 4.5th gen fighter. It is still an early-mid 4th gen fighter. Very few avionics aspects are close to 4.5th gen like the OBOGS and health monitoring systems. Radar, EW suite on Tejas, all of that is something you will find on Jaguar, Mig-29 and Mirage-2000 too. What differentiates a 4th gen and 4.5th gen fighter is AESA technology, apart from some specific avionics and aerodynamics qualities inherent to these aircraft. Whether MK2 comes to that standard we will see.

Secondly, Tejas, Jaguar, and MKI are our own birds. We can integrate whatever we want on them, we can modify them however we like. The fact that we are changing the engines and adding radar on Jaguar is testament to that fact. We are also unilaterally modifying MKI to fire the Brahmos, we can't do these things on Mig-29 and Mirage-2000. Neither on Rafale.

There are no plans to integrate American weapons on Tejas except for the Paveway that we get from the Israelis. Jaguar will receive American weapons because we signed an exclusive contract with Raytheon to add the Munitions Control Unit that allows a non-American aircraft to carry and use American weapons. So, as long as Tejas does not get this kit, it won't carry American weapons.

As of now, only Israeli weapons are our best bet on Tejas because the Israelis are happy to provide us with the relevant technology. Of course, we pay two or three times more than the Israeli military pays for the same stuff. But who's complaining.

As of today Tejas is cleared for R-73, Paveway-II and Griffin. In the future it will carry Derby, Python-V, KH-35 and Sudarshan. In a bit far off future, it will carry Astra, Helina and other Indian weapons whenever ready. Crystal Maze is a possibility as well and so is the next gen Israeli LGB being made today. Overall, the weapons config of Jaguar and LCA will be very different. One will be American/Indian and the other Israeli/Russian/Indian.

Tejas cannot be compared to Jaguar for the same reason as why a sedan cannot be compared to a pickup truck. Tejas is designed for an entirely different role that has nothing to do with Jaguar.
 

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