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Transporting logistics, personnel thru border roads is a 2nd world-war routine. Nowadays heavy lift copters like Chinook & jumbo transport aircraft like Globemaster do it & they place the men/ materials at precise location at shortest notice. Border roads on our side in Arunachal Pradesh sector will make it easier for Chinese army to make inroads in case Indians are forced to backtrack.
No this method is still needed because
We can't transport whole of our army through aircrafts.
Moreover, China does the same because they will bring a large part of their force to the border. India will have to do the same.
Also, roads help for monitoring activities on other side of border anytime.
Remember, China won 1962 because they won what was happening on our side also, they had roads for quite transport of a large part of military instead of sending small battalions with a large noise in aircrafts.
 

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Well said, sir. There are 5 million illegal Bangladeshi infiltrators, the government should put them to work building border infrastructure.
true. Like Japan did to europeans in the time of world war. Give them some food to survive and make them work hard . Didi will cry but ignore her.
 

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The Tibet plateau and the Indian plains are separated by mountainous ranges. If the Chinese climb over that mountain range and slide down our side, the logistics supply route behind them will be under severe strain and impossible to sustain. It's childish to say that we shouldn't build roads on our side because the enemy might use it. The roads on either sides of the mountains only serve their purpose upto the foothills of the mountain.

By the way, will your beloved chief minister be in favor of wasting money on self-defense and purchasing all these useless things like Globemasters and Chinooks? shouldn't we be spending it on more important things like free food, giving free water, free electricity, free internet, free tampons to Delhites?
Boss, suddenly u turn political. BTW, I am not a fan of Kejriwal nor can he have any say in defence matters. I have not needled u by making fun of that retarded woman called Mamata Bannerjee, although "Kundu" is supposed to be a bong !!
 

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Boss, suddenly u turn political. BTW, I am not a fan of Kejriwal nor can he have any say in defence matters. I have not needled u by making fun of that retarded woman called Mamata Bannerjee, although "Kundu" is supposed to be a bong !!
I withdraw my statements. Please accept my apology.
 

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@sasum India & China are both at mechanized infantry stage. Not mass infantry (1st stage) or air mobile (3rd) yet.

Also many things like heavy tanks artillery, cannot be airlifted. Heavy lift helicopter takes lot of gas, as we import it's better spent on roads.

Also routine patrols, economic integration among other things are nessecary to progress of simple occupation of an area to full integration.
 

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@sasum India & China are both at mechanized infantry stage. Not mass infantry (1st stage) or air mobile (3rd) yet.

Also many things like heavy tanks artillery, cannot be airlifted. Heavy lift helicopter takes lot of gas, as we import it's better spent on roads.

Also routine patrols, economic integration among other things are nessecary to progress of simple occupation of an area to full integration.
Chinook can lift light-weight howitzers, armoured cars, Globemaster can transport tanks & even entire mobile hospital. Remember the inaccessible hostile terrains of mighty Himalayas have served natural defence to us against invaders for centuries. Let us not fiddle with it just bcoz Chinese have done it. Get rid of 'catch up' mindset.
 

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@sasum still inefficient, with good road fleet of trucks can bring things en masse. This is not USA planning few 100 troops for some Afghan pind. This is planned to involve lakhs of soldiers

Even USA needed massive bases in Saudi built over decades to invade Iraq. Few dozen heavy lift helos costing billions each cannot to the work of lakhs of trucks.

Whether you want to believe this or not, there is reason air freight is behind sea & rail / truck. Your basic mentality is let's hope the mountains protect us.

Then what about retaking Xinjiang & Tibet? Suggest you lay off the CoD.
 

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Chinook can lift light-weight howitzers, armoured cars, Globemaster can transport tanks & even entire mobile hospital. Remember the inaccessible hostile terrains of mighty Himalayas have served natural defence to us against invaders for centuries. Let us not fiddle with it just bcoz Chinese have done it. Get rid of 'catch up' mindset.
In this regard, let me post one pic here of Tawang sector.

Picture 108a.jpg

This is one of the ALG for helis. Now just imagine what would happen if you have to land a heavy lifter like Chinook in winter over here. Moreover the service ceiling of Chinokk is 18,000 feet, whereas you need to deliver man and material at 17,000 feet on a regular basis in these places. At peace time thats not an issue, but during emergency, its the biggest challenge.

One US president (I forgot his name) famously said, "American roads are not good because America is developed, but America is developed because American roads are good".
 

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Out of context, but here is one complete look of the helipad.

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And here is one from top.....

Picture 116.jpg

The helipad is in the bottom right corner.
 

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MoD clears key road along China after fresh alignment



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The Ministry of Defence has approved a strategically vital 2000-km highway that connects the western and eastern extremities of Arunachal Pradesh — Tawang to Vijaynagar — after incorporating the Army’s views on the alignment of the road that is proposed to run all along the McMohan Line, the defacto border with China in the state.

The road was proposed by the Arunachal Government to seek better connectivity between remote valleys separated by highly inaccessible mountains. The Director General of Military Operations of the Army had objected to the road’s proposed alignment as it was running too close to the disputed sections of the McMohan Line.

The Army had asked for fresh alignment as the area has very little population and sustaining the safety and civilian traffic would end up being the responsibility of the armed forces. Also, the road could be used by insurgents to slip-in and out of the country. There is no boundary marked on the ground, perception on the exact alignment of the McMohan Line vary by a few miles on either side in India and China.

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar recently informed the Rajya Sabha in a written reply: “Based on operational requirement of the Army, proposal for construction of Tawang to Vijaynagar highway has been endorsed with a few changes in its alignment.”

The road is planned between Mago-Thingbu in Tawang to Vijaynagar in Changlang district of Arunachal. The proposed highway will pass through Tawang, East Kameng, Upper Subansiri, West Siang, Upper Siang, Dibang Valley, Desali, Chaglagam, Kibithoo, Dong, Hawai and Vijaynagar on the Arunachal Pradesh border. The government has already relaxed environmental clearances for border area projects.

China disputes India’s control over the Northeastern state. The two countries have an undemarcated 3,488 km Line of Actual Control (LAC), the McMohan line (named after British Foreign Secretary Sir Henry McMohan) is part of the LAC. In the past, China had objected to constructing infrastructure in the border areas.

A concept paper with provision for consultancy services to cost Rs63 crore has already been submitted to the Ministry of Road Transport and Highway. An empowered committee has been holding consultations with all stake holders.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/na...along-china-after-fresh-alignment/276202.html
 

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Infrastructure along China border being enhanced at 'galloping pace': ITBP DG
The DG added that enhancement of border infrastructure along China is a "thrust area" for the government and the force even as troop levels have been enhanced by the ITBP at 116 BoPs in the recent past.
GREATER NOIDA: Asserting that enhancement of border infrastructure along China is a "thrust area", the ITBP chief today said it is being done at a "galloping pace" by having new border posts, vehicles, weaponry and surveillance gadgets.
Giving this information at a press conference here to mark the 55th Raising Day of the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP), its Director General Krishna Chaudhary also said transgressions by Chinese PLA forces at the border is going down steadily. ITBP is tasked with guarding the 3,488-km long Sino-India border.
He, however, declined to give the exact number of such incidents in the past.
Official figures said while in 2015 about 500 transgressions were reported along the border, it went down to 350 last year and this year about 200 such violations have taken place till now.
"All I can say is that these incidents of transgressions take place due to the difference of perception. This is a perceptional difference of the Line of Actual Control (LAC)."
Asked about the developments being witnessed on the other side of the border, Chaudhary said, "infrastructure on that side has grown tremendously."
"We were a little slow to start in the growth of infrastructure but now we are doing it at a galloping pace. We are getting new border posts, vehicles, weaponry and surveillance gadgets. We are very fast catching up," he said after reviewing the ceremonial parade of the paramilitary force at its base here.
The DG added that enhancement of border infrastructure along China is a "thrust area" for the government and the force even as troop levels have been enhanced by the ITBP at 116 BoPs in the recent past.
Chaudhary said a total of 172 new Border out Posts (BoPs), out of the total 176, have been raised on this border while work has been "fast paced" to build border roads in the states of Jammu and Kashmir, Himachal Pradesh, Uttarakhand, Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh, that share their borders with China.
"We had started work on 27 roads and I can tell you that on eight of these, work has been completed," he said.
The ITBP chief said government sanctions have also been received for converting/creating 50 high-altitude BoPs on this icy border as "composite" ones which will have a central heating and 24X7 supply of liquid water for troops manning this arduous frontier which is marred by vagaries of sub-zero temperatures and blizzards.
 

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Bridge connects last Army post at India-China border with nation

PITHORGARH: The Border Road Organisation (BRO) on Thursday announced that it had completed the construction of the 160-feet New Bailey Bridge connecting the last security post of the Indian Army on the India-China border to the country at Nabhidhang here.

"The bridge constructed by the 67 RCC of the BRO is at a height of 14,500 feet where extreme cold conditions prevail," Commanding Officer of BRO at Dharchula Major Manish Narayan said.

The bridge is situated nearly 12 km from the China border and was completed on November 5, he said.
"It will be also useful for Kailash and Chota Kailash pilgrims as the Om Parvat is visible from a point after crossing the bridge," the officer said.

Heavy materials to construct the bridge was carried by helicopters while mules carried light material, he added.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...a-border-with-nation/articleshow/55357377.cms
 

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Army constructs new Bridge to connects the last defence post at India-China border with nation




The Border Road Organisation (BRO) on Thursday announced that it had completed the construction of the 160-feet New Bailey Bridge connecting the last security post of the Indian Army on the India-China border to the country at Nabhidhang here.

"The bridge constructed by the 67 RCC of the BRO is at a height of 14,500 feet where extreme cold conditions prevail," Commanding Officer of BRO at Dharchula Major Manish Narayan said.

The bridge is situated nearly 12 km from the China border and was completed on November 5, he said.

"It will be also useful for Kailash and Chota Kailash pilgrims as the Om Parvat is visible from a point after crossing the bridge," the officer said.

Heavy materials to construct the bridge was carried by helicopters while mules carried light material, he added.
http://www.defencenews.in/article/A...-post-at-India-China-border-with-nation-39129
 

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Govt takes up 3 major infrastructure projects at Demchok; no PLA impact





With China’s Peoples Liberation Army (PLA) retreating to their original posting from village Demchok along un-demarcated Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Eastern Ladakh sector following India’s aggressive postures, the Government has taken up more developmental works at Demchok for welfare of the people along with Army, which was already laying water supply pipes.

This is for the first time when Chinese troops had to retreat to their original positions at Demchok following aggression shown by the Indian troops and they returned without any meeting or assurance from the Indian side. The PLA troopers were told categorically that the Army and civil administration was engaged in the works well within their territory and that the welfare measures for the people were not going to be stopped.

Deputy Commissioner, Leh, Prasanna Ramaswamy told the Excelsior that they have taken up three significant development works now at Leh, which were going on uninterruptedly after blunt reply by the Army to the PLA that there would be no talks with them on their overtures to stop civilian works on flimsy grounds of un-demarcated LAC.

Ramaswamy, who would be personally visiting Demchok in next few days for reviewing progress of the works, said they have taken up solar lighting project in the village for which wire work was on, the water supply pipes were being laid by the Army while another work for construction of residential quarters for staff in the Medical Sub Centre was on.

“Three major developmental works are in progress at Demchok-two of which have been taken up by the civil administration and another by the Army. The work continued uninterruptedly even when the PLA troops and Indian Army were in stand-off modes at Demchok. The works would be completed well in time,” the Deputy Commissioner, Leh said.

Official sources said Army Engineers were going ahead with laying water supply pipes in Demchok to connect it with Hot Spring Waters to provide drinking water supply to the village while civil administration was engaged in laying wire for solar lighting to lit up the area even without electricity. The people of the remote border villages will get round-the-clock medical facilities with construction of residential quarters at the Medical Sub Centre.

Ever since Chinese army started showing aggressions along LAC to disrupt works, this is for the first time that they had to retreat after camping along LAC for two-days in pre-fabricated huts, which they had installed after objecting to works in Demchok and Indian Army’s outright refusal to stop them on the ground that they (the works) were being carried out well within the Indian territory.

On November 2, Sino-Indian troops were again in stand-off mode at Demchok along the LAC in Eastern Ladakh after PLA had objected to laying of water pipes on the Indian side.

The fresh face-off had come within days after India and China troops conducted joint tactical exercises in Eastern Ladakh and held frequent meetings between them, the latest one being on Diwali festival at two Border Meeting Points (BMPs) including Chushul and Daulat Beg Oldie (DBO).

The administration had started construction work for irrigation canal with the help of Army Engineers and local people. The work was being executed under Mahatma Gandhi National Rural Employment Guarantee Act (MGNREGA).

The Chinese troops had raised objections to the construction work on the ground that there was no demarcation of the LAC between the two sides and described area as “disputed”. However, the Chinese side was bluntly told by the authorities that the work is being carried out well within the Indian side for providing regular water supply to the people of border village of Demchok by constructing irrigation canal and linking it with Hot Spring water.

The area had witnessed a similar incident in 2014 after it was decided to construct a small irrigation canal at Nilung Nalla under the MGNREGA scheme which had been a sore point with the Chinese.

The PLA had mobilized villagers from Tashigong to pitch Rebos (tents) at Charding-Ninglung Nallah (CNN) Track Junction to protest Indian action.

The ‘Hot Spring’ is different from the one in Chashool where Police Day is observed in the memory of 10 CRPF men killed in 1959 by Chinese troops.
 

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Defence ministry checks Rohtang Tunnel progress



MANALI: Additional secretary from defence ministry J Rama Krishna Rao took stock of the works in progress at both the portals of the Rohtang tunnel on Monday. The engineers briefed him about the various works being undertaken to speed up the process and assured him of breakthrough in tunnel by July next year.

Rao was satisfied with the current progress and had a conversation with the Border Roads Organization (BRO) officials, contractors and designers of tunnel in respect to the project. Rao said that working in such extreme weather condition is not easy. He said the experience that engineers will get from this project will be beneficial for the country in future.

Rohtang tunnel project chief engineer Brigadier D N Bhatt took Rao to south and north portals of the tunnel where work is in progress. Bhatt briefed about current progress, future plans and challenges in the project. Chief engineer said that both ends of the 8.8km-long tunnel will meet by July 2017 and the tunnel will become motorable before the end of 2019.

The project director Colonel Sanjay Thapliyal said a stretch of about 1,500m is still to be dug and will be completed till July next year. "The work from Manali side will not stop and will continue in winter months. Work from Lahaul side will totally depend on weather conditions. However, work will continue until heavy snowfall blocks road to north portal which goes through Rohtang pass," he said.

Work on the Rohtang tunnel had started on June 28, 2010 with a target of completion within five years. Geographical hurdles like high water ingress, loose rock material and extreme weather conditions are blamed for delay in work. The Rohtang tunnel is strategically important for the Army and will bring prosperity to the tribal Lahaul valley by providing all-year road connectivity.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...tang-Tunnel-progress/articleshow/55426709.cms
 

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BORDER ROADS ORGANISATION


During the financial year 2016-17, BRO took up the construction of ten critical bridges and roads of strategic importance on a war-footing by mobilizing its resources and manpower in a vigorous way. The projects are:-

· Construction of a 470ft Himank Setu over Shyok River on the Indo-China border.

· Tsultak Setu connecting Pangong Tso for improving traffic-ability of both tourists and military personnel.

· The 529m span cable-stayed Atal Setu connecting Dunera-Basoli-Bhaderwah in J&K at 14.74km.

· 1020m span Ujh bridge in Kathua district of J&K connecting Parole-Korepannu-Rajpura Road as an alternative axis to NH44.

· 453m span Jodh bridge located at 13.40km on Akhnoor-Pallanwala Road in J&K, completed.

· 55m span Dobniyar bridge located at 0.29km on Berripattan-Minka Road in J&K completed.

· Under Project Hirak a 100ft span equipment bridge connecting Ghatiabagrah-Lipulekh road at 57.04km over Dogong Nallah was completed.

· Under project Arunank, a 200ft DDR Bailey Bridge at Gelensiniak across the Subansiri River approximately 20km ahead of Limekingon at the confluence of the River and Tsari Chu has been launched.

· A 100ft Bailey bridge over Kaochao River in Mizoram connecting Kaochao-Phura-Tokalo Road was opened to the public.


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