Strategic Command to acquire 40 nuclear capable fighters

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India's Nuclear Weapons Take to the Skies | TakePart - Inspiration to Action

India's Nuclear Weapons Take to the Skies


With most of the Armageddon-fearing planet apparently losing its taste for nuclear weapons, India's upped its investment in the end of civilization with the planned purchase of 40 nuclear-capable fighter jets.

The official administrator of India's nuclear arsenal, Strategic Forces Command (SFC), has requested two squadrons of modern aerial assets, with room on the wings for the world's most dangerous weapon.

The response to the news was positive from hawks in India's parliament and from cockroaches worldwide looking to rule the planet after man's wholesale destruction.

India's conventional air force is currently tasked with delivering atomic goods to whosoever has it coming; but if the purchase order goes through, SFC will finally get its own dedicated fighting force.

For those handicapping at home, the most likely candidates to unleash an atomic holocaust are rivals India and Pakistan, who share a border, a legacy of war, and a tendency to test nuclear weapons.

Neither country is a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), so both are free to expand their nuclear programs beyond the burden of international law. Curbing both nations' nuclear ambitions tops most non-proliferationists' to-do list.

India entered the nuclear club with an atomic test on May 18, 1974.

Dubbed "Smiling Buddha," the eight kiloton blast was touted as a "peaceful nuclear explosion," despite the fact that it shepherded years of weapons proliferation.

Pakistan responded with its own nuclear test in 1998, brought about in large part by reigning atomic miscreant Abdul Qadeer Khan.

Khan gained his nuclear know-how while working the centrifuge shift at a Netherlands research site. He brought his boosted intel home to Pakistan, then sold nuclear secrets to North Korea, Libya and Iran.

If India rings up the register for the 40 new fighters, it will add to a growing miscellany of nuclear technology on the subcontinent.

With a submarine in the works for 2012, India is gunning for the nuclear triad of air, land, and underwater atomic delivery systems. It is fast becoming the world's biggest buyer in weapons and delivery systems.

The second-most populous nation on Earth is expected to spend $80 billion over the next five years for arms contracts from the United States—which, incidentally, also sells weapons to neighboring Pakistan.
The writer seems to be a modern day non proliferation saint. He is talking about modern world loosing its taste for nukes as if the west has destroyed each and every weapon in its arsenal and that India is the only one maintaining nukes. According to the west, India has the lowest count of nukes even lesser than Pak, but they are still not stopping vilifying India for its nukes.

"with a tendency to test" like how many has India and Pak tested and how many has the west? Bloody hypocrites. France conducted a big round of tests before putting a moratorium on testing. Why did they do that? Nothing but plain racist thoughts i would say about such comments.

Wonder if such people are actually taken seriously??
 

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Rafale suits the best for such operations. But since such operation are sometimes conducted deep in enemy territory we must emphasize more on stealth. The contenders are F-35 and Pak Fa. F-35 is more stealthier than Pak Fa but its highly doubtful if US will sell it for the purpose of Nuclear delivery.
 

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Now what is this new Strategic bomber , are we going for this ?

Russia's Kazan aircraft plant to build next generation bomber

Prime Minister Vladimir Putin

19:50 14/09/2010

The Kazan aircraft maker will start manufacturing a new strategic bomber, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday.
The plant will continue upgrading Tu-160 and Tu-22 long-range bombers and will then "start assembling a new-generation strategic bomber," he said.
He offered no indication of the new bomber's specifications or exactly when production would start.
Another Kazan-based enterprise - a helicopter plant - will start production of a new Mi-38 helicopter and continue making Mi-8, Ansat and Aktai helicopters that have already proved their worth, Putin also said.
NIZHNY NOVGOROD, September 14 (RIA Novosti)

Russia's Kazan aircraft plant to build next generation bomber | Defense | RIA Novosti
 

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Ideally, PAK-FA will be a good bet as nuclear capable fighter due to its stealth and payload carrying capabilities.
 

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india must not enter joint developement with russia for this new bomber which russia will wholeheartedly agree(due to lack of funds)and if decides to enter then it should do so now in the design phase itself and not like pak-fa programme.
 

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Ideally, PAK-FA will be a good bet as nuclear capable fighter due to its stealth and payload carrying capabilities.
PAK-FA cannot carry big payloads coz her internal weapon bay is not big enough to fit a cruse missile..
To have Cruises missile she needs to carry it externally..
 

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^^^^ I was dead against F-35, but i think for the current role F-35 bests suits coz of its stealth.
 

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Tupolev 160


Nah, Tu-160 is a full-sized bomber, not a fighter. If SFC wants to try out something proven to deliver nukes (tested, not battle-proven), and it wants to test out something new for the Airforce, it should consider Su-35 BM. Otherwise, only American fighters fit the bill, such as F-15 Strike Eagle.
 

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As has been said previously, only the Russian inventory can fit these.

F-35s ? Seriously ?

"Hey Obama, my friend ! Pass over a couple'a F-35s dude..."

"Yeah, sure. What for ?"

"Uh, nothing much man, just to drop off some nukes on your dear Pakistan...You know...in case they bug us too much."

"No problem, all yours !"
 

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^^^

F-35 plays a perfect role but getting it from Americans especially for Nuclear Delivery Systems is a different thing. Even the F-15 Strike eagle is good.

All the Su and Tu series are not stealth. We need absolute stealth. We dont want our fighter armed with nukes venturing into enemy territory and pop up in their radar to make it vulnerable to SAM's and Interceptors.
 

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^^^

F-35 plays a perfect role but getting it from Americans especially for Nuclear Delivery Systems is a different thing. Even the F-15 Strike eagle is good.

All the Su and Tu series are not stealth. We need absolute stealth. We dont want our fighter armed with nukes venturing into enemy territory and pop up in their radar to make it vulnerable to SAM's and Interceptors.
Before the advent of the B2s, all US nukes were on non stealth bombers. So whats the deal? What are fighter escorts for coupled with SEAD/DEAD missions.
 

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Before the advent of the B2s, all US nukes were on non stealth bombers. So whats the deal? What are fighter escorts for coupled with SEAD/DEAD missions.
Why cant we go for Stealth Bombers ??? Non Stealth ones run huge risk. And it todays world India does need Stealth for such missions.
 

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Why cant we go for Stealth Bombers ??? Non Stealth ones run huge risk. And it todays world India does need Stealth for such missions.
Stealth bombers like B2? No way!! Just to expensive. Its a toy only the US can afford. With stealth fighters, well the payload matters. How much can be carried in the internal bomb bay? Also what is Indias level of miniaturization that can be accommodated inside the internal bomb bay?
 

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I don't see the need of this 40 aircrafts. we have no first use policy so in case of nuclear attack we need to retaliate as fast as we can and it should be deadly,IMO using bombers for this role is not so good as using missiles which are more accurate ,need lesser time and also the chances of intercepting is low.
 

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Hmmm I don't think even Russia will give us the strategic bombers and we are discussing about bombers from America.
 

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I don't see the need of this 40 aircrafts. we have no first use policy so in case of nuclear attack we need to retaliate as fast as we can and it should be deadly,IMO using bombers for this role is not so good as using missiles which are more accurate ,need lesser time and also the chances of intercepting is low.
I agree with you up to a point ,
But there is nothing wrong with dedicated Aircraft ready for rapid response

What necessary is the number 40.

Too many planes dedicated solely for Nuke Trucks.
I would think 20 is even too much.
12 would be an appropriate number.
 

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I agree with you up to a point ,
But there is nothing wrong with dedicated Aircraft ready for rapid response

What necessary is the number 40.

Too many planes dedicated solely for Nuke Trucks.
I would think 20 is even too much.
12 would be an appropriate number.
Explain why 12 would be appropriate. What is the rationale behind that number? the SFC has something in mind and thats why the number 40.
 

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Hmmm I don't think even Russia will give us the strategic bombers and we are discussing about bombers from America.
No we are just talking about stealth bombers/fighters for the SFC as someone posed a question.
 

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