Sri Lanka to water down Tamil power-sharing plan

[nirranj]

There is some nonsense on a Tamil separatism in India. That as a fact was true until late 1960's.

The root of this problem was that We saw ourselves a little different from the Northern brothers and were in the mindset that Tamils need a separate nation for nurturing the Tamil Culture.

But we later realized that any progress is through Indian Union. Also the false arguments of the SL politicians on sharing the power with the provincial councils is that the national integrity will be questioned and they show Tamil Nadu taking the govt in Delhi a hostage in the SL issue. This is the progressive way of integration. You cannot suppress the states feelings. You cannot live under the shadows of a majority, You should live as equals to them...

When even a small issue can bring up discomfort between two different groups, India has survived many sensitive issues that would have disintegrated the country. This is what should have happened in SL. autonomy/enough powers for the provincial govts to look into their governance, like regional policing, implementation policies etc, with a strong federal systems that will govern the disputes between the central govt and the provincial govts and between the provincial govts and a universal Adult suffrage, right to live in any part of the country with right to property in any part of the country, Right to do trade and business in any part of the country (governed by the provincial laws)... This will enable Tamils and Sinhalese to live equally and the nation to progress.

Now going by the Rajabakhsa Brothers arguments on the Potential disasters of the undiluted 13th amendment to the Constitution, as exampled on Tamil Nadu taking hostage of the Central govt, I have some questions which they will find it difficult to answer.

1) how the same Tamil Nadu is still under the radar of the Article 356 of Indian Constitution.
2) How does you see the powers of the Indian Supreme court to Nullify any law enacted in the Tamil Nadu Assembly.
3) How do you see a Indian Citizen From Tamil Nadu as the CJI.
4) How do You a see the INC (a pan India Political party) winning seats in Tamil Nadu Assembly and has Tamils as cabinet Ministers.

SL should treat all its citizens as equals and this can be achieved only through more federal setup with the Regional governments enjoying more freedom within their geographical boundaries (with federal set ups that ensure smooth functioning and integrity of the nation.) The Chinese are playing their best in Converting the SL into authoritarian client state on contrary, when India is striving to make the SL a progressive democratic republic with equal opportunity to all.

There is no majority or minority in a democratic set up. All are Equal. If some majority minded person doesn't want a minority official in the government I will ask him to grant independence to the minority. For example, the Indian Government institutions are based on qualification and equal opportunity. Thats why a Muslim IAS officer can become the District Collector in a Kashi and a Hindu IAS officer can become the Collector in Ajmir. This is how the democracy functions in a union. If this is not the case in SL, then for sure the Country is on path to disintegrate.

And as of the Pakistan and China are there to help SL, That itself shows what path they are choosing forward...

 

[HeinzGud]

Sri Lanka is not even a quarter of the way towards the example of democracy followed by your "sane countries", so talking about "sacrificing sovereignty" to the people, is a long shot.

That is not the point. Speak to the point.

TNA had already offered to reconcile with the SLG several times, and the Sri Lankans reacted by assassinating TNA politicians...

Reconcile? They say they want but they never did it. They never showed up the parliament committees stating they do not trust Sinhala government. How far they think Sinhala government can trust them?

Besides you are keen to put the blame on Sri Lankan for the murders of the TNA politicians. Is it so obvious that all TNA politicians were murdered by SLG? Isn't there any other reason?

Let me call Bullshit on this one, because the 13th amendment has existed since 1987, during times with a full fledged Tamil insurgency, yet it could never be invoked to claim independence. This obviously means that the devolution of powers to the Provinces are not total, as you claim them to be.

Oh it did once.

On 10 December 1988 Annamalai Varatharajah Perumal of the EPRLF became the first Chief Minister of the North Eastern Provincial Council.

On 1 March 1990, just as the Indian Peace Keeping Force were preparing to withdraw from Sri Lanka, Permual moved a motion in the North Eastern Provincial Council declaraing an independent Eelam. President Premadasa reacted to Permual's UDI by dissolving the provincial council and imposing direct rule on the province.

Sri Lankan Provincial Council elections, November 1988 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Perumal however escaped after the fiasco through Indian army's intervention.

There is no garuntee that this could not be repeated again. Then what should SLG do? dissolve the council again?

It is quite obvious that the real intentions for repealing the amendment are to further dilute whatever little political power the Tamils hold in Sri Lanka.

You should understand the situation by now.

There's a big difference between 'being smarter' and being 'better educated'. Tamils held higher positions in bureaucracy because they were better educated than the Sinhalese.

So who's fault is that? Sinhalese?

As for the British, their laws clearly favoured the Sinhalese, especially the Donoughmore Constitution.

Oh yeah.....

Secondly, it created a committee system of government specifically to address the multi-ethnic problems of Sri Lanka. Under this system, no one ethnic community could dominate the political arena. Instead, every government department was overseen by a committee of parliamentarians drawn from all the ethnic communities.

Donoughmore Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is the cause for many problems because this gave significance to the Tamils in par with Sinhalese because this made the 10% of the population in equal political position as the 75% of Sinhalese. A total discrimination.

Reading this is appalling and shows your own discriminatory views.. Ofcourse it is fair for the educated elite to hold administrative positions, regardless if they are Tamil or Sinhalese... but it is due to the fact that you chaps could not stomach educated Tamils in the bureaucracy, that you ended up segregating them. No wonder Tamil Eelam became so important for them.

Even when the Tamils could not understand the greivenesses of the majority Sinhalese.

By going with the same theory of yours. There should be no discrimination when better educated Sinhalese elite ruling over the Tamils.

You see how flaw your logic is when trying to defend your views. At least accept that Sinhalese were discriminated by Tamils rather than cling on to your beliefs despite their irrelevance.

You do discriminate them.

What else to accept from a person who can't even reason. Do all Indians are like that?

 

[HeinzGud]

SL should treat all its citizens as equals and this can be achieved only through more federal setup with the Regional governments enjoying more freedom within their geographical boundaries (with federal set ups that ensure smooth functioning and integrity of the nation.) The Chinese are playing their best in Converting the SL into authoritarian client state on contrary, when India is striving to make the SL a progressive democratic republic with equal opportunity to all.

Well you know why Tamils cannot have federal system in Sri Lanka. That's because they do not have a credible history of their own. They do not have the historical right to North and East.

There is no majority or minority in a democratic set up. All are Equal. If some majority minded person doesn't want a minority official in the government I will ask him to grant independence to the minority. For example, the Indian Government institutions are based on qualification and equal opportunity. Thats why a Muslim IAS officer can become the District Collector in a Kashi and a Hindu IAS officer can become the Collector in Ajmir. This is how the democracy functions in a union. If this is not the case in SL, then for sure the Country is on path to disintegrate..

In Sri Lanka all are equal too. That's why we have Tamil judges, lawyers, doctors and other professionals. But what Tamils want is a place for themselves only. In that place there is no place for Sinhalese or Muslims.

 

[nirranj]

Well you know why Tamils cannot have federal system in Sri Lanka. That's because they do not have a credible history of their own. They do not have the historical right to North and East.



In Sri Lanka all are equal too. That's why we have Tamil judges, lawyers, doctors and other professionals. But what Tamils want is a place for themselves only. In that place there is no place for Sinhalese or Muslims.

Yes of course, the Sinhalese have destroyed the Invaluable sources of Tamil Eelam's ancient history when they burnt the Yazh Library and now They have renamed the Tamil places in the north and East (just as Yazhpanam was renamed as Jaffna) and They have destroyed the Hindu temples and built Buddha Viharas in those places. They have manipulated the History to say the Tamils are not natives and are immigrants from India. Well Colombu means a small Water inlet in the coast and is a Tamil word. now Colombu will loose its name as the capital is Kotte Sri Jayawardane pura...

 

[HeinzGud]

Yes of course, the Sinhalese have destroyed the Invaluable sources of Tamil Eelam's ancient history when they burnt the Yazh Library and now They have renamed the Tamil places in the north and East (just as Yazhpanam was renamed as Jaffna) and They have destroyed the Hindu temples and built Buddha Viharas in those places. They have manipulated the History to say the Tamils are not natives and are immigrants from India. Well Colombu means a small Water inlet in the coast and is a Tamil word. now Colombu will loose its name as the capital is Kotte Sri Jayawardane pura...

What the Tamil history was destroyed with the Jaffna library? You have to come up with better response than that my friend. History is not in books alone. Where is Tamil archeological history? cultural history? The actual answer is that there are none.

About place names actually the place names of Jaffna peninsula is actually Sinhalese. Can you give me any sane Tamil meanings for the following place names like Chunnakam, Kandarodai, Chawakachcheri and Yalpanam etc. there are more I can post if you wish.

Tamils are not natives in Jaffna peninsula they were immigrated in 17th century for tobacco farming under Dutch rule.

 

[Bhadra]

What the Tamil history was destroyed with the Jaffna library? You have to come up with better response than that my friend. History is not in books alone. Where is Tamil archeological history? cultural history? The actual answer is that there are none.

About place names actually the place names of Jaffna peninsula is actually Sinhalese. Can you give me any sane Tamil meanings for the following place names like Chunnakam, Kandarodai, Chawakachcheri and Yalpanam etc. there are more I can post if you wish.

Tamils are not natives in Jaffna peninsula they were immigrated in 17th century for tobacco farming under Dutch rule.

My two big sturdy Ba**s ! Tamil History in Srilanka is more ancient than Sinhala migration...

 

[Bhadra]

It is a sight to see Vadamarachi and VelvettyTuria which reminds one of the brutality of Srilankan Forces. Those aerial bombardment pockmarks will take centuries to be erased.

 

[HeinzGud]

My two big sturdy Ba**s ! Tamil History in Srilanka is more ancient than Sinhala migration...

You do not even know who Sinhalese are, you believe that we are coming only from the Vijaya and his clan. So dear friend do not poke your nose into matters you do not know.

 

[HeinzGud]

It is a sight to see Vadamarachi and VelvettyTuria which reminds one of the brutality of Srilankan Forces. Those aerial bombardment pockmarks will take centuries to be erased.

I have being to Vadamarachi and VelvettyTuria two years back and there were no sign of aerial bombardment.

 

[anoop_mig25]

Currently the SLG is discussing the possibility of removing the land/police powers and the abolishment of the right to merge provinces together.

Ok how is srilanka divided administratively .And should n`t be law and administration stats level subjects.Why its is centre level subject

 

[HeinzGud]

Ok how is srilanka divided administratively .And should n`t be law and administration stats level subjects.Why its is centre level subject

Apparently administration should not be either state/province or center level subject it should go further down to macro level.

And law should be rested on center or else there will be different different laws for different provinces which will bar the progress of the economy of the country (like Sri Lanka) and jeopardize the national security if the law went into hands of extreme racists like TNA.