Sri Lanka to sell 80 percent of southern Hambantota port to Chinese firm

[Razor]

I could have tolerated anything. But casually falsifying our history is a step too far.

I've had these same discussions with this guy couple of times before (don't remember the threads.)
He's adamant on the fake history part.

 

[Razor]

How can Hindu Tamils remain separate from Hindu India whom we share history and religion. My ancestral village is 50 ~ Km from Pakistan border still i will take Tamils as my brothers over Porkies.

You Lankan Pigs suffer from identity crisis not Tamils nor North Indians.


Not before you bow down to those "dickless" who raped you ancestors and enslaved your Kind. They still occupy a large part of your Shitty Little Island.

It looks like a piece of turd, doesn't it?

 

[Srinivas_K]

No country gives F*ck about any other country. That is a given. Even India does so. Sri Lanka also understands that reality. That is why Sri Lanka went out for deal with China for the development of the country. It is a win win situation for both countries. China is not foolish enough to station military vessels in Sri Lanka. That point should be clearly emphasized. In order of them to use the H'tota port, they need to find a way to infiltrate in to the IOR region. If Indian Navy is impotent enough to let that happen; Sri Lanka has nothing to do about it.

No one is going to allow China into IOR, it is a balancing game. The more they venture into South Asia with their greedy attitude the more they will suffer in this region.

 

[HeinzGud]

Buddy let's one thing be very clear you can't dictate Chinese what they can do and can't do in their own property once the contract have been signed. That's why we are requesting Srilanka to keep our security in mind.We are neighbours,and we don't want trouble. Development is good but don't let our security at stake.
Its same thing you did in past (support to Paki army) for which we both faced problems.
How can you say this when you are selling your land to the country which now a days is extremely hostile to us?

I don't like the harbor being sold. It's an unnecessary venture which only angers India. It's all because of the political vandetta against Rajapaksa. The present government came to power amidst ton of lies on corruption and racism. Ones the lies are being exposed they need to find scapegoats to beat. The port is just one of them.

 

[HeinzGud]

Lol the same Indian kings defeated the mongols,timurids,destroyed mughals,portugese,arabs,Dutch,french,Spanish,afghans from India and guess what why did the British left India because of Indian navy revolt and that's why they left South east Asia early because anyway India would have had armed revolt and British political power in India n subcontinent was finished and Buddhist who were in large were killed and they did not fight back

Well Timurids and Mugals weren't actually defeated. Indian local kings won some battle but not the entire war. Moreover the Indian kings you fervently boasts are actually former soldiers and officers of the same invading armies who had later fled to form their own fighting unit such as Shivaji and the founders of Vijayanagara empire.

Brits left India because they went bankrupt after both world wars.

 

[vinuzap]

"Brits left India because they went bankrupt after both world wars."

you need history lessons :

just try to find what happened in 1946 with royal indian naval mutiny that paved the way

what british did to chinese is even more barbaric , they used to to grow opium in india and feed it to chinese

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/History/om/om15.htm

https://www.mtholyoke.edu/~goldf20s/politics116/trade.html

 

[Bornubus]

That is because you take it unified India for granted. Tamils had a separatist movement just like the Sikhs did. Both were crushed by the center.

Tamils had a separate movement in Lanka resulted in thousands of Lankan pigs slaughtered. No a single bullet fired by Tamils for a separate nation within India.

So congrats Pig you suck in both History and Geography.

Those people that live in the shown provinces are brought down from Malabar coast by Dutch for tobacco farming. Just like the Tamils that were brought in for tea plantations by British.

But now they own the area and your Ass. How many Lankans slaughtered by Tamils lol makes me remind the persecution by Cholas.

 

[Bornubus]

I've had these same discussions with this guy couple of times before (don't remember the threads.)
He's adamant on the fake history part.

This thread where his bitch ass owned over the debate of Buddhism/ Hinduism.


http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...himmler-fascination-with-ancient-india.76700/

 

[DingDong]

That is because you take it unified India for granted. Tamils had a separatist movement just like the Sikhs did. Both were crushed by the center. As for Tamils, they should have had a independent nation of their own. Which they were denied. No wonder they are dickless.



Those people that live in the shown provinces are brought down from Malabar coast by Dutch for tobacco farming. Just like the Tamils that were brought in for tea plantations by British.

Regional Nationalism is not treated as evil/threat here in India.

Center did not crush the Punjab insurgency, on the contrary it was Indira Gandhi who fueled the Punjab insurgency for her political ambitions (and paid for it with her life). Insurgency in Punjab was crushed by the Punjab Police under the command of KPS Gill.

Tamils who were brought into Sri Lanka for tea plantation live in Colombo and adjoining areas, whom are you trying to fool?

Tamils had been living in Sri Lanka since ancient times, Sinhalese arrived later.

Tamils certainly deserve independence from the racist and fascist Sinhalese rule.

 

[vinuzap]

we don't took the unified india to be granted and never will if someone tried to do mess with us in the name of string of pearl :

goa was snatched from portugese right under the skin of NATO where nehru worked with right winger RSS

sikkim and arunachal under the skin of china yes india also faught war with china and won in 67 and got ahead of skirmish in 87

hyderabad from nizam who threatned to kill over 5 lakh non muslim in hyderabad


so you understand what is the stature of srilanka

 

[Flame Thrower]

Debt got increased during Rajapaksha's time because of the loans he has taken for the development projects. Those projects have the potential to provide economic benefits to the country if properly managed. The present day crisis has sprung up because of the poor planning and political vandetta of Sirisena-Wikaramasinge coalition. The port will not be sold as IMHO. It will create a severe political backlash for the present government. Sri Lankan people don't like to see their assets are sold to foreigners for the highest bidder. Rajapaksha has openly vowed to take back the port if it is sold.

Dream on Mate... if China lends anyone, you'll find them bankrupt in couple of years atmost a decade...

Do you even remember that Rajapaksha inked deals with China... how is he going to get these ports back!!!

Anyway China didn't buy Hambantota port, it took lease for 99 years.... So technically Rajapaksha cant get port back to you

All you can do is keep your mouth shut and cry silently while China is screwing you royally...

If Sri Lanka ever dared to show slightest discomfort...you are a dead man....

 

[dude00720]

@HeinzGud - Beyond all the anger that you have.

Face the facts.

a) You like Rajapakse.
b) You dont like India
c) You are sinhalese who does not like the Tamil Minority.
d) You are willing to cut your nose to spite India.

But, seriously, what do you think will happen?

Let us take the best case scenario for you.
a) Rajapakse becomes the PM. He gets the ports back. What does that mean? Do you seriously think, common people in Sri Lanka will actually enjoy bigger chinese presence as they slowly take over your jobs, your life and finally the Buddhist culture.

Cool Down. Sri Lankan people are extremely intelligent. I understand the need that you have to be identified as Aryan or white skinned. But, face the fact, with Trump back in power in USA, You are as brown as anyone else. Hell, they find the Latinos Non-white.

So, what exactly are you fighting for? LTTE is dead. Your children and grand children will not grow up hating the tamils as much as you do.

And, for all the chatter and brash, India is a big country. Democracy has made it give up focus for some time. But, today, your leverage will only go down.

Just remember Belgium in the 1st world war. They were responsible for the war, not archduke ferdinand assasination. In this case, do you seriously expect, china and US to send aircraft carriers for you. Do you think an Agni-V missile on shanghai is worth a small island?

Even the Norwegians are not that happy with you. (LTTE)

The current Govt in India is the best chance you have for growth in Sri Lanka. Because, the opposition will push for shrinking Buddhism and increasing christianity across the area.
Now, we could forget century old rivalries and work to be treated as 1st class citiziens worldwide, or, you could be fighting 500 years later for "why did that Tamil boy steal my pencil?".

See..Our DNAs are similar. We are proud people, arrogant , not very different actually. You surely understand, Give respect and take it. Have a discussion and learn. is it that difficult?

 

[Razor]

Regional Nationalism is not treated as evil/threat here in India.

Center did not crush the Punjab insurgency, on the contrary it was Indira Gandhi who fueled the Punjab insurgency for her political ambitions (and paid for it with her life). Insurgency in Punjab was crushed by the Punjab Police under the command of KPS Gill.

Tamils who were brought into Sri Lanka for tea plantation live in Colombo and adjoining areas, whom are you trying to fool?

Tamils had been living in Sri Lanka since ancient times, Sinhalese arrived later.

Tamils certainly deserve independence from the racist and fascist Sinhalese rule.

Independence and re-union with india. Thank you.
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[Razor]

This thread where his bitch ass owned over the debate of Buddhism/ Hinduism.


http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...himmler-fascination-with-ancient-india.76700/

Yes.
This is one of those threads where he tries his manipulative shit.
I had some "discussions" with him over the history of the region and tamil presence there for at least over two millenia, which he denies.
Anyway as they say: Reasoning with some people, is like "whispering the vedas to a buffalo." Pointless exercise.

 

[indiazain]

Tamils became part of India because Indian leaders crushed Tamil nationalist movement in 50s and 60s. Dickless Tamils just bowed down to pressure from the North. Anyone can see who are the turds by simply looking at it.

No. You are delusional. China invested the money because they so the potential of the harbor in a more economic minded way. There is no point for China to use the harbor for a military purpose.

And also. Pakistan didn't use the Colombo airport. It was done in a consent with Sri Lankan counterpart as an act of friendship when Pakistani aircraft carrying passengers and cargo needed to refuel.

Please think of China as a cancer,they come into your country and economically occupy you.There are no free lunches specially to you Lankans.

It is very easy to understand this dynamic if you take a second to look at their all weather friend "Pakistan" which is now digging its grave via CPAC.
Look we indirectly oppose CPAC since it is nothing more than a Chinese ploy to build a road and a port through Pakistan with the sole intention of attempting to surround India in case of a war.
It also serves the purpose of a backup entry for the Chinese to have complete dominance in the Xinjiang region.

http://www.cfr.org/pakistan/behind-chinas-gambit-pakistan/p37855

Now this comes at a very large cost, due to difficult terrain and terrorist activites in Pakisthan.
The Chinese are giving big loans to the pakis while they build massive infrastructure that will be used solely for themselves if the need ever rises.
Think about it what will pakisthan export using such a route.only chinease goods to the Middle east.Do u think they can compete with Dubai or Mumbai.

The Cheery on the cake comes from the fact that the pakis will not only repay them the cost for the infrastructure but also do it by giving them interest over a period of at least 10 years (Subject to their payment capabilities).

Now what makes you think that the Chinese arent up to something like this in Srilanka.

I understand that Srilankans are way smarter and reasonable than the Pakis and hope better sence prevails unless you want to become a new Chinese colony. .

 

[lupgain]

The airport won't be wasted. The top users would be - Sri Lanka records strong growth in tourist arrivals from China, India


China to promote Sri Lankan capital as South Asian hub

Are you sure they are tourists or settlers to colonize the tear drop island? Chinese visitors are infamous as spies, If china has so pro-progressive ideology, than why is China not allowing Local Pakistanis to be part of CPEC, China is known to care it's own interests they have nothing to do with local populace

 

[Flame Thrower]

Unfortunately Lanka, took loans from China. Now it's time to repay them. I believe that hambantota port fate is sealed in the hands of China...

I am just thinking of near Impossible scenario, but is this going to save Hambantota from the hands of Iron brother...

India's main aim is to put PLAN out of IOR...

Sirisena will gain respect in Lanka if he could stop Hambantota going into Chinese hands...

Here is the Cherry on top, Hambantota is beginning of Chinese take over of colonization of Sri Lanka. Out of $8 billion loan Hambantota worth is $1.5 billion....

Sirisena comes to India for help....
India gives loan of $8 billion to Lanka at 0.25% interest and failure of repaying 51% loan within 5yrs of time, we'll take lease if Hambantota port till repayment of loan...

My question is if Lanka goes to China and gives this 8 billion and says get lost... Is it going to end Lanka China debt issues...

 

[India22]

Just remember Belgium in the 1st world war. They were responsible for the war, not archduke ferdinand assasination.

What did Belgium do?

India was cultural entity. United by a common religious background.

 

[dude00720]

What did Belgium do?

India was cultural entity. United by a common religious background.

In the 1st world war, actual fighting started after Germany attacked Belgium . a seemingly neutral country, before attacking France. This was the trigger for Britain Joining the war, making it an actual world war. My point was, that, Sri lanka is no belgium and neither is Pakistan for that matter. No one will start a World war now for the same reasons.

I also believe, the past is unimportant. What matters is how we deal with the future. Sri lanka can be a tourism paradise, just like bahamas. Or, it could be a military base like Qatar. Question is, what they want. Maritime Revenue is going to go down in 10 years. Technology will take care of that.

It is simple. If they mess with India, India will reply. And then, there are two India's. One is the bureaucratic establishment. The Other is, people of the country. Bureaucracy might bungle, but, people decisions are resolute. If Sri Lanka tries to become another pakistan[Chinese colony], well, there will be retribution. And Message boards wont be enough.

 

[India22]

Belgium was neutral country. Not seemingly. Germany attacked through Belgium because Germany followed Schlieffen Plan. Belgium otherwise was not like Sri Lanka.

I dont think Sri Lanka is going to be Pakistan. Sooner or later Chinese influence's true picture will reveal. Also what can India do if China establishes naval port there? War is not certainly going to break out. For all such talks we will nuke etc. India can do nothing. war is not going to break out and we have to tolerate Chinese presence for some time. Lankan population by that time will emerge against Chinese activity.