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I am surprised that @Heinz Gud feels that Black July was lesser than the riots of India he mentioned.

Black July triggered a 26 year civil war.resulting in 100,000 or more people.being killed and a total genocide done. To him, this is a lesser evil than riots of India which is brought under control in matter of days, if not hours.
Well if you think civil war started just because of the 1983 riots, you are mistaken. Black July only aggravated the issue.

And do you think Black July riots went on for a month? It was brought under control with in hours.

I think you try to portrait a image that Sinhalese purposefully killed Tamils for joy or something. You should understand that Tamils thrived in Colombo where Black July incidents mainly occurred after 1983 and many Tamils fled from Northern Sri Lanka which they called their homeland to live among Sinhalese after 1983.
 

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Well if you think civil war started just because of the 1983 riots, you are mistaken. Black July only aggravated the issue.

And do you think Black July riots went on for a month? It was brought under control with in hours.
Ha Ha Ha... I think You were the super Hero who brought the violence under control in a matter of Hours.

I think you try to portrait a image that Sinhalese purposefully killed Tamils for joy or something.
I think You are portraying the sinhalese to be mourning and crying for the tamils whom they killed out of no choice.

You should understand that Tamils thrived in Colombo where Black July incidents mainly occurred after 1983 and many Tamils fled from Northern Sri Lanka which they called their homeland to live among Sinhalese after 1983.
Since You sinhalese were the victors in the War, You can write off those Tamils who were killed by your Army as those who escaped the clutches of the terrorists in the north and migrated down south to live among the Sinhalese... Those Tamils also learnt Sinhala and merged with the natives, didn't they!!

Mahinda is a Fascist. And some Racists have their Shelter in Him...
 

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Despite extensive damage being done to Tamils and their property by Sinhalese hoodlums directed by Jayawardene's Ministers and some of the Buddhist clergy, there was no sign of the President. He was, in fact spending much of the time in Army headquarters, in fact in the Army Commander's room, but issued no orders to stop the mayhem. Presumably, he did not want to prevent the 'final solution'.

Finally, on Thursday, 28th July, he broadcast to the nation. It was one of the most irresponsible statements ever made. Trying to shift the responsibility to the Sinhalese people, he said that,

"Because of the violence by terrorists, the Sinhala people have reacted"¦"

Going on to defame the Sinhalese people, attributing to them what was in his vicious, racist and evil mind, he added,

""¦.the more you put pressure in the North, the happier the Sinhala people will be here"¦..Really if I starve the Tamils out, the Sinhala people will be happy."

What is remarkable is that the Sinhalese people tolerated this evil man for more than a decade and did not demand an apology for insulting them.
Some months later, in a booklet published by me, The July1983 Massacre. Unanswered Questions, I summarized what had occurred.

"It would be revolting and unprofitable to recount details of the acts of barbarism committed by Sinhalese mobs. All that the author, a full-blooded Sinhalese [2] , can say is that for the first time he has felt ashamed to be a Sinhalese. It is not that one identifies oneself with the hooligan mobs, but there is a collective sense of responsibility for the behaviour of one's countrymen – hooligan, barbaric or civilized. He who watches while a fellow human being has his limbs cut, belly slit open, petrol poured on and burnt to death, is only marginally less guilty than he who does it. In the General Hospital, Colombo, desperately ill Tamil patients had their intravenous drips disconnected and were thrown out of the wards because they were Tamils. Tamil doctors had to take refuge in toilets to avoid assault".
The same killings in jail that occurred in the Welikada prison in 1983, have gone on. The slaughter of some 900 Tamils in Army custody in Chemmani in Jaffna in 1995 and the outrageous massacre of Tamil youths in a so-called 'rehabilitation centre' in the Sinhalese area, the 'Bindunuwewa massacre', are just two of many examples
The only protection the Tamils will ever have is if there is a separate Tamil State. It is imperative that the international community appreciates this. When George Bush's representative in Colombo arrives as the US Ambassador and announces that a Separate Tamil State is "unacceptable to the US", he does not know what he is talking about. For a start, the Tamils did not ask him for his opinion. He does not have to live under a brutal racist regime in Colombo. These visiting pundits should mind their own business and not, by their irresponsible statements, support the hard-line anti-Tamil chauvinists in Colombo. Interestingly and belatedly (after the damage has been done), the US seems to have seen the light of day (at least for the moment). A visiting VIP from the US has recently suggested a "loose federal arrangement" for Sri Lanka.
Long Term Consequences of Black July 1983

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Dr. Brian Senewiratne Is a Sri Lankan Born Australian Doctor. He is a Humanitarian and actively speaks up for the Cause of Tamils in Lanka. It is for the Many good and peace loving people Like Dr. Brian, I want Tamils and sinhalese to live together and prosper. But there are few Bad and Racist people like the one poster here and those who are at helm in Lanka and those who rejoice at killing the Tamils, I wish Tamils become Independent to live their Life in peace.
 

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Well if you think civil war started just because of the 1983 riots, you are mistaken. Black July only aggravated the issue.

And do you think Black July riots went on for a month? It was brought under control with in hours.

I think you try to portrait a image that Sinhalese purposefully killed Tamils for joy or something. You should understand that Tamils thrived in Colombo where Black July incidents mainly occurred after 1983 and many Tamils fled from Northern Sri Lanka which they called their homeland to live among Sinhalese after 1983.
You are right that the civil war did not happen because of Black July alone.

It started because discrimination of Tamils started long back by the Buddhist Sri Lankan majority as the Tamils proved a better, hard-working and industrious lot.

I am sure no one kills for joy.

The problem was that the that Vellalar Jaffna Tamils availed themselves of the educational opportunities provided by the colonial authorities & missionaries and together with their hard work earned many government posts offered to locals by the British.

The fact that the Ceylon Tamils were a hardworking class cannot be denied.because the British took Ceylon Tamil to Malay to help them run the country. There is a large population of such origin in Malaysia.

I might remind you that even the former Singaporean Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew once said
" In terms of numbers, the Ceylonese, like the Eurasians, are among the smallest of our various communities. Yet in terms of achievements and contributions to the growth and development of the modern Singapore and Malaysia they have done more than warranted by their numbers. In the early days of Malaysia's and Singapore's history the civil service and the professions were manned by a good number of Ceylonese. Even today the Ceylonese community continues to play a prominent role in these and other fields of civil life.....''

Therefore the Buddhist Sri Lankan who are the majority in Sri Lanka nursed their grouse and did all to ensure that the Ceylonese Tamils are brought many notches down. That started the various scheming methods to made it disadvantageous for Sri Lankan Tamil to the top community in jobs.

And thereafter what has happened requires no elaboration.
 
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What I saw is: Pranab as FM was a disaster, out & out. While Chidambaram was somewhat saner.
Your view, not mine.

How can you speak of Muslims, especially the illegal migrants who are main votebank of Mamta & co. Their religion demands a different kind of loyalty (trans-national, towards the West) & the call of "Mazhab/Qaum" is above all for them (well, almost).
Even if what you say is right that they are more concerned about ummah and not for the nation they live in, what makes Bengal different is that we do not siffer the insecurity that others do.

Is it so hard ? Bengalis could have done what the majority of Indian constituencies have done...but WB refuses to come out of regionalism.
What has the other Indians done, which Bengal is shying away from?

In Bengal the choice is either TMC or Left. There is no other political options since none other are working to become reckonable. You feel this is regionalism? If so, how?
 

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Dear Sri Lankans, You under estimate us, Tamils...

First, Tamils are Indians... We Tamils are citizens of Bharat from Day one...

We have our differences within India... We oppose Hindi... We even sought for a separate nationhood after the Sub continent was liberated from the Colonialists...

But we gave up that Nationhood dream after a Enemy of proportions in the Chinese invaded India... You know what, Bharat was once a sub continent and not a single political entity.. and was a open door for foreigners to invade and enslave... The legendary warrior Prithviraj Chauhan was defeated in 1192 and in matter of 120 Years, the ancient Capital city in Madurai was overrun... In a matter of 120 years India along its length and breadth has a new political order... But We have united ourselves through the blood we shed under alien rule...

Coming to the present day differences among Indians, That difference is what Unites us... That Difference is what strengthens us...

You can dream that a issue in Kavery river water sharing will cause a rift!!! God bless you poor chaps, Kavery will be a bone for contention for all the days that will dawn... No doubt about that... We have a constitution, we have our courts that mark a level playing field for every parties... We will resolve that issue in the Inter state Farmers conferences, in the Govt agreements, in the courts... That is our problem to solve and we will turn every stone to solve that issue...

We Tamils opposed Hindi... Yes we still oppose... We held one of the largest opposition that Free India had seen... But that doesn't makes us lesser Indians or anti Indians, just as you dream to portray!!! Indians along the length and breath know How much Indians Tamils are... We fought hand in hand against the British... Be it the Non-Violence movements, the Non-Cooperation movements or the Military Engagements... My forefathers were there in blood and sweat!!!

Ever heard of the greatest Indian Poet, Subramanya Bharati??? He is the greatest teacher for Modern Tamils... He dreamed of a United Bharat from Kashmir to Kanyakumari and he showed us how the United India will be... He says, "When a Indian in the Kashmir Sneezes, another Indian from Kanyakumari will run to him with medicines"!!! We Indians Live just the way He dreamed us to live... From sending our men to the battlefields, from the volunteers who dedicate themselves in case of any natural disasters, from the overwhelming donations that flow out from every Indians pockets whenever any Indian in any part of the country is in need, We Indians are brothers and Sisters!!!

For the matter of fact, the Chief secretary of Tamil Nadu is a Malayalee!!! Can You imagine such a thing in the Tamil Nadu that you are portraying??? Hmmm... You can dream whatever you want!!!

You Racists can escape justice... You can escape for years if not decades... But we Tamils will persevere, We will ensure that Justice is delivered to you in its undiluted form and we will ensure that Justice is delivered by Our India...
this is one of the most jovial read. then i looked at the commentator. i was not surprised.
 

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May i need to remind you geographically India and Sri Lanka will be here but i am not sure about Chinese bases so take every step carefully. If you will invite anti-India force in your country then it will get equal response in return.

However i am not saying China is Anti India but no big power want another big power in their backyard as you see in Ukraine situation so good luck to you my Island friend.
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You are not a person to instruct on how SL should act. Actually more able persons in indian and SL foreign relations deal these matters in a sensible way. Between china has no bases here. This is for your understanding. It is the economic cooperation that is there.
Between there is mre indo-china trade, so china is in india, it doesnt need SL.
 

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Thanks to Tamil chauvinism & spinelessness of Indian leadership.
if china is in SL, china is in India too.

what is this such great fear towards china? when you were kids, did parents scare you little fellas showing china?
 

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@HeinzGud

It is true that teh South Indian parties will not be able to influence the decisions of the Central Govt, as they were doing before.

However, to be pragmatic, it is not feasible to alienate the opinion of a sizeable part of the Indian population.

There are genuine grouse in Tamilnadu over Sri Lankan atrocities and human right issues.

The new Govt would do well to iron out these difference with the Sri Lankan govt amicably.

Te flip side is that there are many ways how India can assert itself around the parts.
Most of the human rights cases people in TN hear about SL are bloated and incorrect. there is no such situation in SL.
 
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Sure, Delhi doesn't need Chennai's support, and Colombo should be happy about that; but trying to flaunt China won't help. Modi's engagement with Sri Lanka will depend on weeding out China from the region. Unless Colombo is willing to do that, the situation is unchanged between India and Sri Lanka. In fact, it's worse, because Modi has a shorter temper against shit like fishermen abduction and foreign influence, than the previous regime.



China is in no position to defend Sri Lanka, if we decide to invade it. We set the terms in the 2,000-kilometer radius of Chennai, not China.

The worst part for you, is that Chinese businesses love Modi. If he decides to do something against your country, Chinese businesses will throw their weight behind him.
If any idiot thinks that india is gonna come with all guns to SL they are either stupid or just kidding. Are you telling me india is gonna risk their own armies and business interests because of SL's so called HR record?

Countries do not operate like that. there is a lot of indian business interests in Sri Lanka as well.
 

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Do you Tell me that Indian Fisherman is acting cruel ..Better Read what Human Rights Reports Told About Sri Lanka





You Have No Chance ...Biasing towards to Pakistan and China ..If you You well get Doomed
The so called killings of indian fishermen in sea is a one big fat LIE. These fellows illegaly enter our sea and steal the fish. In a day even thousand of indian fishermen are visible in northern SL sea. It is funny the tamils in TN while crying about HR of tamils, steal their fish the same time.

Indian trawlers threaten Sri Lanka fisheries - YouTube

Looking at the childish threats at SL, i wonder whether this is the forum where victims of childhood bullies in india find some solace
 

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Yes, they do have a genuine grounds.

It does not require the size of a country to quell a rebellion if one uses the technique and horror used by Rajapakse.
Then why do they steal their fish?

Are you suggesting horror is not a part of wars in rest of the world. I have heard interesting details about IPKF (Innocent People Killing Force) as well
 

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You are not a person to instruct on how SL should act. Actually more able persons in indian and SL foreign relations deal these matters in a sensible way. Between china has no bases here. This is for your understanding. It is the economic cooperation that is there.
Between there is mre indo-china trade, so china is in india, it doesnt need SL.
I agree we are no position to tell you how to run your country but i was replying to a guy who came here to mock us behalf of his own inferiority complex.
 

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I wonder if the situation will be the same.

Modi is not the one to take things lying down.





It is ridiculous to even think that Sri Lanka can threaten India.

I also wonder if SL will have the gumption to form a third front, for if it does, it shall no longer remain any front, let alone a third!

Let us not flex the muscles when there are no muscle at all that you can flex.
If SL has no muscle to flex, why loosing sleep over SL?
 

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if china is in SL, china is in India too.

what is this such great fear towards china? when you were kids, did parents scare you little fellas showing china?
little fellas :rofl: only if you has seen me :tsk:

Delusional creepers like you are not worth responding...go screw your mom.
 

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Nobody give a shit about shit hole lanka.
K then why so scared about who will come to SL?


You will be crying and begging India if we start another covert operation or rake up another tamil tiger moment so shtfup and live your happy days.
How did the last one end for you? :) your PM was assualted and then again blewn off.

One day is enough to eliminate Srilanka from the map.Dont come here with your borrowed strength from your new papa china.

There is nothing your -----i papa can do to contain us with your shitty iland.
I guess you were talking about using an eraser and a tourist map.
 

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DO you think you are qualified for any kind of front to threaten India.
One Agni missile is enough to eleminate your shitty iland from the face of the earth.so keep sucking your papa china .
Then why the hell you are so scared of china in SL? :D
 

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I think China should do more business with india and more investments there. these fellows are really scared of china in SL. what did you do to make them so scared?
Both harbour suspicions due to mistrust. Check out why SL's location is of vital importance!



Chinese are always constructive.

Chinese warship docks at Colombo port for replenishment
COLOMBO, February 27 (ChinaMil) -- The guided missile frigate "Huangshan" of the Navy of the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLAN), which has just completed the naval escort missions for the ships transporting the second batch of Syria's chemical weapons, docked at the Colombo Port of Sri Lanka on the morning of February 25, 2014 for the fuel replenishment after sailing for eight consecutive days and nights.
 

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