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[Ray]

@HeinzGud IMHO the clash on the surface may appear as an ethnic one - Sinhalese vs. Tamils, or religious Buddhist vs. Muslim or Hindu. But deep inside it all boils down to "inadequate development" in spite of multi-dimensions. Too many vying for too scarce resources, consequently the minority complains abt not getting a fair deal, the majority grumbling their due share being eaten away, like biz/job opportunities, education, infra and so on. So the answer remains continuous development, including attracting FDI be it from Japanese or American, to enlarge the pie for distribution so that Paul won't hate Peter for eating his lunch.

Those outsiders who're seemingly over zealous abt SL "human rights" are not interested in truth but would rather tear unhealed wounds apart for their domestic political needs.

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This would be partially correct.

The Uighurs issue is not about resources, or is it?

 

[HeinzGud]

Channel 4.

Okey sir.

 

[HeinzGud]

@HeinzGud IMHO the clash on the surface may appear as an ethnic one - Sinhalese vs. Tamils, or religious Buddhist vs. Muslim or Hindu. But deep inside it all boils down to "inadequate development" in spite of multi-dimensions. Too many vying for too scarce resources, consequently the minority complains abt not getting a fair deal, the majority grumbling their due share being eaten away, like biz/job opportunities, education, infra and so on. So the answer remains continuous development, including attracting FDI be it from Japanese or American, to enlarge the pie for distribution so that Paul won't hate Peter for eating his lunch.

Those outsiders who're seemingly over zealous abt SL "human rights" are not interested in truth but would rather tear unhealed wounds apart for their domestic political needs.

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This is not about economy per say.

The Tamil issue is actually a concept of racism of Tamil upper class dropping down to the masses. The issue will be partially solved by the economy. The steadfast cure will be Tamil acceptance of Sinhalese majority in every part of the island. This seems too racist but that is the reality.

 

[amoy]

This would be partially correct.

The Uighurs issue is not about resources, or is it?

yes, though u're being off topic.

Inadequate funds allocated to Uyghur dominated areas; Uyghurs not getting plum jobs for not educated or knowing Mandarin; Uyghurs being biased as thieves all over China.,.... (u can replace with another word Sinhala or Tamil within).

Still a development issue at root, education, employment and so on. Extremism can't make inroads to well developed minds. There are many other sides to it meanwhile, religious, cultural, but to start with a fundamental.

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[ladder]

Okey sir.

Hope the doorman at UNHRC and probably at ICJ don't go with the advice that the person concerned gives.

http://www.siasat.com/english/news/sri-lankan-hires-pak-lawyer-un-rights-probe

 

[amoy]

This is not about economy per say.

The Tamil issue is actually a concept of racism of Tamil upper class dropping down to the masses. The issue will be partially solved by the economy. The steadfast cure will be Tamil acceptance of Sinhalese majority in every part of the island. This seems too racist but that is the reality.

why can the "upper class" easily find resonance among the "masses"? do the "masses" reckon the "elite" speak out their mind?

"acceptance" takes a very very long time to trickle down so start with an "easier" task - development (incl. economy).

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[Ray]

yes, though u're being off topic.

Inadequate funds allocated to Uyghur dominated areas; Uyghurs not getting plum jobs for not educated or knowing Mandarin; Uyghurs being biased as thieves all over China.,.... (u can replace with another word Sinhala or Tamil within).

Still a development issue at root, education, employment and so on. Extremism can't make inroads to well developed minds. There are many other sides to it meanwhile, religious, cultural, but to start with a fundamental.

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You may like to read this document
China's New Policy in Xinjiang and its Challenges
http://www.eai.nus.edu.sg/Vol2No3_ShanWei&WengCuifen.pdf

About one year after the deadly ethnic conflicts in Xinjiang, the Chinese leaders unveiled a new policy package and vowed to bring lasting stability to
this restive region through "leapfrog development." In the following 10 years the government will pour hundreds of billions of yuan into Xinjiang to boost the economy and improve the livelihood of all ethnic groups. Promising in the short run, the new policy may face several challenges domestically and internationally in the long run.

THE XINJIANG WORK Conference, a joint conference of the Chinese Communist Party's (CCP) central committee and the State Council, China's cabinet, was held in Beijing from 17 to 19 May 2010 to promote a "new deal" in Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, the country's far west frontier. The new deal outlined a blueprint for Xinjiang's development until 2020 at a budget of hundreds of billions of yuan.

President Hu stipulated that by 2015, per capita GDP in Xinjiang should catch up with the country's average level and the residents' income and their access to basic public services should reach the average level of the country's western provinces.

Enterprises in less developed southern Xinjiang will enjoy favourable "two-year exemption and three-year reduction" (liangmian sanjianban) tax policy.

That apart the economic health of Xinjiang is

China's far west Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region recorded 10.7 percent economic growth in the first half, 2.9 percentage points higher than the national growth rate.

Xinjiang realized a gross domestic product (GDP) of 260.1 billion yuan (41.2 billion U.S. dollars) from January to June, 10.7 percent higher than the previous year, announced Wang Yue, spokesman of the regional statistics bureau at a press conference.

Xinjiang jumped from 21st last year to 18th this year among 31 provinces, regions and municipalities on the half-year natioanl economic growth list, Wang said.

The industrial value-added output during the first half reached 125 billion yuan, up 11.2 percent from last year. The non-oil sector recorded a growth rate of 18.2 percent, Wang said.

With the support from the central government, the fixed assets investment volume in the first half year reached 191.58 billion yuan, up 33.7 percent than the previous year.

The Consumer Price Index jumped 4.2 percent over last year, he said.

The cash income of farmers in Xinjiang in the first half of this year was 2,867 yuan, 20 percent higher than last year.

"The growth rate of farmers' cash income in Xinjiang in the first half is ranked first in the country. A rare event in recent years," Wang said.

Xinjiang covers an area of 1.66 million square kilometers, making it China's largest provincial-level administrative region.

Since 2010, China has been pushing for greater opening-up of the resource-rich and strategically-located Xinjiang, aiming to transform it into a regional economic hub from a relatively underdeveloped desert region.
http://www.china.org.cn/business/2012-07/23/content_25997337.htm]Xinjiang's half year GDP grows 10.7 percent - China.org.cn[/url]

Even with such progress in Xinjaing, you have correctly analysed the REAL problem in Sri Lanka's North and to use your words - Uyghurs not getting plum jobs for not educated or knowing Mandarin; Uyghurs being biased as thieves all over China.,.... (u can replace with another word Sinhala or Tamil within).

The part in bold is the REAL Problem.

 

[HeinzGud]

why can the "upper class" easily find resonance among the "masses"? do the "masses" reckon the "elite" speak out their mind?

The thing is that the masses have no voice. Either they are being crushed by cast system or their own political parties.

The demands we are hearing from Sri Lankan Tamils are not born from their need but from few elite who believe that there were independent homeland of Tamils.

 

[HeinzGud]

Even with such progress in Xinjaing, you have correctly analysed the problem and to use your words - Uyghurs not getting plum jobs for not educated or knowing Mandarin; Uyghurs being biased as thieves all over China.,.... (u can replace with another word Sinhala or Tamil within).

This is total BS statement. Tamils and Muslims have no problem with their language in getting decent jobs in Sri Lanka. Nor are Tamils being condemned as thieves.

This statement has come from an arm chair specialists.

 

[Ray]

The thing is that the masses have no voice. Either they are being crushed by cast system or their own political parties.

The demands we are hearing from Sri Lankan Tamils are not born from their need but from few elite who believe that there were independent homeland of Tamils.

Rather bogus.

Tamils are also Christians who have no caste. Who was Anton Stanislaus Balasingham who was the chief political strategist and chief negotiator of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam ?

A Hindu?

 

[nirranj]

This is not about economy per say.

The Tamil issue is actually a concept of racism of Tamil upper class dropping down to the masses. The issue will be partially solved by the economy. The steadfast cure will be Tamil acceptance of Sinhalese majority in every part of the island. This seems too racist but that is the reality.

Too Many New theories You put forward... There are two solutions, One referendum for Tamil Self determination. Two, Merging the North and Eastern province, Divulging more power to the Provinces, Assuring Tamils on a Unbiased Constitution.

The Second solution will be the right one to be done in a Sinhalese pov and Will make SL a more developed and prosperous country in the South Asia. But as You are not ready for the Second option, Get yourself ready for the First. As it will be forced upon you guys one day or the other.

 

[Ray]

This is total BS statement. Tamils and Muslims have no problem with their language in getting decent jobs in Sri Lanka. Nor are Tamils being condemned as thieves.

This statement has come from an arm chair specialists.

Only a Bullshitter would not know beyond claiming everything is BS.

Tamil are not thieves but cute of your to pick up that and forgetting the essence carried by Amoy's statement.

Some people are gifted with the sly, sharp instinct for self-preservation that they want to pass for wisdom.

So, you pontificate that Christians have caste.

I wonder what is mine then!

 

[nirranj]

The thing is that the masses have no voice. Either they are being crushed by cast system or their own political parties.

The demands we are hearing from Sri Lankan Tamils are not born from their need but from few elite who believe that there were independent homeland of Tamils.

Another New and false theory...

 

[amoy]

The thing is that the masses have no voice. Either they are being crushed by cast system or their own political parties.

The demands we are hearing from Sri Lankan Tamils are not born from their need but from few elite who believe that there were independent homeland of Tamils.

of course I agree that there always comes a stick along with carrots. development serves to isolate those radicals since their extremism hardly appeal to commoners who're convinced to pursue betterment within the integrated SL.

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[HeinzGud]

Rather bogus.

Tamils are also Christians who have no caste. Who was Anton Stanislaus Balasingham who was the chief political strategist and chief negotiator of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam ?

A Hindu?

So? Your point exactly?

There were also Sinhalese Buddhists among LTTE.

 

[HeinzGud]

Too Many New theories You put forward... There are two solutions, One referendum for Tamil Self determination.

Participated by Sri Lankan people.

Two, Merging the North and Eastern province, Divulging more power to the Provinces, Assuring Tamils on a Unbiased Constitution.

The two provinces cannot be merged because of historical injustice. More over the only solution for divulge more power to Tamil common man is to abolish provincial system and going to district system.

As it will be forced upon you guys one day or the other.

We are looking forward to it. Last time the enforcer lost his life.

 

[HeinzGud]

Another New and false theory...

Prove it is false.

 

[Ray]

So? Your point exactly?

There were also Sinhalese Buddhists among LTTE.

My point is don't falsify facts to serve your purpose.

You mentioned

the thing is that the masses have no voice. Either they are being crushed by cast system or their own political parties.

Impressive to those who are not aware of it, like non Indians who are fed this line as a 'catch all' excuse for all ills concerning those who have some equation with Indian religions.

However, that is a blatant falsehood perpetuated since Tamils are no a monolithic religious groups. They are a ethnic group, but with a diversity of religion.

it is like claiming that all Buddhists are same and conveniently forgetting that even amongst Buddhists, there are many ways to the Buddha.

And, to help you on your way, it is not 'cast', but 'caste'.

Cast means throw (something) forcefully in a specified direction.

Caste means any class or group of people who inherit exclusive privileges or are perceived as socially distinct

 

[HeinzGud]

So, you pontificate that Christians have caste.

I wonder what is mine then!

When did I do that?

Further more Tamil Christians form small percentage among the Northern Tamils. Tamil political ideologists are vellala cast Hindus.

 

[Ray]

Prove it is false.

True.

The world is all fools but not Sri Lankans and Rajapakse their demi God.