Sri Lanka Air Force to buy FC-1

[HeinzGud]

Ok boyz here the link.

The Sri Lanka Air Force is due to is arranging to purchase six JF -17 planes, according to the progress freport of Ministry of Defense and Urban Development. These aircraft are due to be purchased under the 2013 finalised projects.

The JF-17 (Thunder) co-developed by Pakistan Air Force and China Aero Technology Import Export Cooperation (CATIC) and co-produced by Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC)

The JF-17 Thunder is an all weather, multi-role, light combat aircraft that has the potential to be the main stay & work horse of any Air Force.

In addition, 17 Mi-17 helicopters and 02 B.206 helicopters are also due to be purchased. These are to be utilized for passenger transport.

The Mi-17 medium multi purpose helicopter is produced by Kazan Helicopters. The B 026 is built by Bell helicopters.

However the time span within which the purchased are to be made has not been determined.

Airforce to purchase 06 combat planes

 

[farhan_9909]

Congratulations once again

dedicated to sri lankan brothers

 

[hit&run]

I think, jibes on the scale of the order apart, this is a telltale sign of India's losing grasp over a 'traditional ally'.

Sri Lanka cannot afford to buy entire squadrons of fighter aircraft, nor does it need to, but the fact that it has chosen to invest in a plane that is as yet raw and battle-untested instead of say pre owned Mig-21s, that are far more battle-worthy, speaks to the relative dormancy of Sri Lanka-India military relations and the appeal of Chinese 3rd-gen [3.5 Western gen] aircraft to smaller countries. China has been able to successfully position its JF-17 as a cost effective option to several poorer nations- even as it moves away from what it considers a low technological base- to recover the costs of its development at a time when these nations have unfulfilled requirements stemming either from sanctions or non-affordability.

India should take a leaf out of China's book and move quickly to complete projects that are veritable tools of military and strategic diplomacy.

Not that India has been caught sleeping while China has been cruising through S Lanka; it has sought new and imaginative ways of [financially] asymmetric engagement. Here is an example:

China's Foray into Sri Lanka and India's Response | Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses

But these 'new and imaginative' ways have not extended into the realm of military procurement: not with the INSAS, not with domestic ordnance, not with satellite launches [the possible exceptions have been vehicular and radar equipment]. And these are all fields where we have had something to contribute in.

We have taken a 'soft' approach, with focus more on military bureaucratic relations and high-level military exchanges- apart, of course, from the SLINEX-series naval exercises- the one advantage India enjoys in geographical proximity over China. But 'big ticket' items are what catch media attention, facilitate interoperability and propagate the kind of strategic 'dependence' that is necessary of a junior partner.

Domestic political compunctions will remain, and will always be a thorn in the side, especially considering many of our heavy vehicle and aerospace facilities are in the South. But we will have to find a way to work around them.

The security of our Indian Ocean region depends on it.

(Not concerned about this would be sale of Chinese jets, wouldn't even if they buy F22.)

Alert: Going to write many unrelated assertions.

SL is a gone case, always was. We have to start it from here.

Sinhalese are fiercely independent people and Tamils were never in position to make inroads for you. They bite you when they were prosperous, they didn't; when they themselves were bogged down, now they will do it again. The reasons can be many or may be 'small neighbour syndrome'.

The sign of a rouge state is that they do not have the patience to negotiate and they make abrupt swings.

Essence of Indian diplomacy is to do it the cheapest way and bargain (thora kam kar lo, bahoot mehanga hai). This policy doesn't work with rouge/failed states.

There is no harm in living in coexistence with an enemy. We know this art very well.

SL knows this art too, so the Chinese and Pakistanis are learning it now after getting screwed right, left, centre and long in detail.

Like @Ray; hinted they are (SL) safe if they do act like Pakistan

As far as earning revenues by selling weapons is concerned then our manufacturing capabilities are not even fulfilling our own orders and have been failing even specifications requested at times.

What Pakistanis and Chinese may be selling to others needs a detailed scrutiny minus their nauseating propaganda.

 

[HeinzGud]

Sinhalese are fiercely independent people

Hell ya.

Like @Ray; hinted they are (SL) safe if they do act like Pakistan

What does this mean?

 

[hit&run]

What does this mean?

Sorry its, 'do not',

 

[farhan_9909]

JF-17 II cost for PAF is 30millions(flyaway cost)

About weapon package

Antiship missile
If
*CM-400AKG(1.67millions usd)
*Yj-83(0.7millions usd)

SEAD
*Mar-1 (1.08millions USD)
*LD-10 (almost similar)

A2A
*SD-10B(1million usd)
*PL-5IIE(0.6millions)
*MAA-1B(0.8millions)

A2G
*Raa'd ALCM(2.5millions USD)
*C-802AKG SOM (1.5millions USD)
*Dumb bombs
*LGB's

calculate yourself.
Weapon package 1
*2xCM-400AKG=3.34millions USD
*2xmar-1=2.16millions
*2xSD-10B=2millions
*2xPL-5IIE=1.2millions
2xC-802AKG SOM=3millions

Consider the cost of Dumb bombs/LGB's/LS-6=1millions USD

sum=11.7millions

bt offer true multirole capabilities

and i am sure Sri lanka must have ordered JFT II

 

[agentperry]

janab sri lankan are more closer to us than brother/sisters...

despite the fact that they have marginalized muslims just like tamils. they have special brotherhood with pakistan just like china or any country who marginalize muslims . only india is exception- right

 

[mikhail]

its a good choice by SLAF!now we will get to know the JF-17 from inside out and our pilots will get valuable knowledge about the weaknesses of JFT by doing training exercise with them!i think we should organize a couple of such exercise to test our Mig-21 Bison against the JFT(as we all know that its probably the only fighter aircraft in the IAF arsenal which is comparable to JFT)

 

[agentperry]

LCA and Dog fight

that fighter cannot even perform as good as our Sherdil aerobats does..


check out the performance of jft in zhuhai..jft will eat lca

BVR can kill anything and everything. what ever sherdil do a bvr can cut out anything like butter with knife

 

[hit&run]

despite the fact that they have marginalized muslims just like tamils. they have special brotherhood with pakistan just like china or any country who marginalize muslims . only india is exception- right

Pakistanis have habit of ''Willy-nilly'' pulling people from shoulders to have a photographs with them and then boast in front of others that they are their friends.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

its a good choice by SLAF!now we will get to know the JF-17 from inside out and our pilots will get valuable knowledge about the weaknesses of JFT by doing training exercise with them!i think we should organize a couple of such exercise to test our Mig-21 Bison against the JFT(as we all know that its probably the only fighter aircraft in the IAF arsenal which is comparable to JFT)

There is not much to learn we already know the 6 MRCA candidates inside out.
we already know rd-93 from MIG's and AL-31 from sukhois. Everything else is
third class revereesed engineered junk. And we know ZHUK radars.but this is
a reverseed engineered version.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

30 years old?plzz explain


3rd gen=4th gen in western world

This is a classic 3rd gen =4th gen. I bet this is not even 3rd gen but being generous.

 

[farhan_9909]

i must admit that you guys are really pissed off from this deal

bt who cares


Long Live Sri lankans-Pakistani-chinese brotherhood

example of eternal love

 

[LETHALFORCE]

i must admit that you guys are really pissed off from this deal

bt who cares


Long Live Sri lankans-Pakistani-chinese brotherhood

example of eternal love

Don't export Pakistani failed state model to Sri Lanka like you did to Afghanistan.
There is nothing to be pissed about it's better you guys are buying Chinese stuff and not
real world class stuff.

 

[mikhail]

There is not much to learn we already know the 6 MRCA candidates inside out.
we already know rd-93 from MIG's and AL-31 from sukhois. Everything else is
third class revereesed engineered junk. And we know ZHUK radars.but this is
a reverseed engineered version.

mate we can always learn something from these kinds of exercise.i mean the instantaneous rate of turn,the radar frequency,the capability of the E/W suite(however cheap it may be),the maneuverability of JFT during a potential dogfight etc!these "small" informations will surely come handy to our IAF in the event of a real war with our western neighbour!:cool2:

 

[farhan_9909]

quality matter alot

 

[farhan_9909]

Don't export Pakistani failed state model to Sri Lanka like you did to Afghanistan.
There is nothing to be pissed about it's better you guys are buying Chinese stuff and not
real world class stuff.

JFT can compete with any fighter of its class.

you can compare any of its class fighter be it LCA or Gripen

 

[LETHALFORCE]

mate we can always learn something from these kinds of exercise.i mean the instantaneous rate of turn,the radar frequency,the capability of the E/W suite(however cheap it may be),the maneuverability of JFT during a potential dogfight etc!these "small" informations will surely come handy to our IAF in the event of a real war with our western neighbour!:cool2:

Good point. I wonder what the RCS is not much more and what changes have been made from the
original LAVI program which Israel probably gave details about anyway. 6 planes is not even a squadron.
We can always do exercise with Sri Lanka in the future and find out other details . Pakistani influence and
investment in Sri Lanka is not even 10% of India.

 

[gokussj9]

JFT can compete with any fighter of its class.

you can compare any of its class fighter be it LCA or Gripen

Are you not out of your Madarsa Syndrome Yet. If you have anything to say about the alleged
superiority of JF-17 kindly go to this thread.

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/military-aviation/10726-lca-tejas-vs-jf-17-thunder.html

 

[hit&run]

Lets talk about engine.