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Err..isnt it Article 370 ?
Solution to Kashmir keeping India's strategic interests in mind
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How long do you think we can hold Kashmir by the gun? 10 years, 20 years, 50 years? On one hand you say that they will never accept Indian rule or be friendly to India, on the other hand you say they will never be given the 'right to self determination'. Quite a pessimistic POV you have there. You seem to have lost hope in mankind. Your idea of all Kashmiris being stone pettling and shouting 'death to infidel' is absolutely wrong. You are no different than many Pakistani posters calling all Hindu supporting BJP as supporters of Godhra riots. Please do not equate Kashmiris with Pakistani or even other Indian muslims. The valley post independence till the 90's was a peaceful place.
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Are you from Pakistan or Kashmir Valley? Right to self-determination? They have every right to leave the country! The land does not belong to them, it belongs to India, like any other Indian land does not simply belongs to the people living there. There is something called territorial integrity, if you don't understand that.
I thought you were a sensible poster, you turned out something else.
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A nation usually cannot shape its sovereign space,which always adheres to all the parameters of geostrategic advantage.The apologetic tome in which we have asserted out sovereignty over Kashmir,whether at international,multilateral or bilateral fora,now increasingly even in the domestic forum,as part of our national sovereign space,gives no reason to suspect that we can convince ourselves,let alone the rest of the world,that we have any serious ambition to expand our sovereign space in Kashmir that what it is right now....
Like somebody said,as priority we should be concerned with the bird in hand that those in the bush.Having said that we should continue to strive to assert our historical rights,even for appearances sake.Afterall having passed a certian resolution in the parliament,with regards to our sovereignty over all of Kashmir,we have made intriguing case of enforcing that resolution by negotiating the sovereignty of Kashmir with our usurping neighbors.
This presents to the world a bad example of How Indians stand up to their resolve,and it also says something about how serious we are about our parliament and its resolutions.
A word on Kashmir,it is beyond a nations stated objective or capability to instill pride in belonging to a nationhood,among any segment of a national society.No group of people or society,who consider themselves part of a nationhood,negotiate their national identity.It is not something negotiable,we must be wary of those who do.
In Kashmir there are many who repudiate their Indian identity and there are those who cling to their Indianness.We must decide whose cause we will serve and fight to defend.Should our efforts go toward convincing the former to embrace a nation they loath to call their own,or should our efforts be garnered towards securing the life and land of the people who upon the pain of death and dishonor,assert they are Indian now and for eternity.
Like somebody said,as priority we should be concerned with the bird in hand that those in the bush.Having said that we should continue to strive to assert our historical rights,even for appearances sake.Afterall having passed a certian resolution in the parliament,with regards to our sovereignty over all of Kashmir,we have made intriguing case of enforcing that resolution by negotiating the sovereignty of Kashmir with our usurping neighbors.
This presents to the world a bad example of How Indians stand up to their resolve,and it also says something about how serious we are about our parliament and its resolutions.
A word on Kashmir,it is beyond a nations stated objective or capability to instill pride in belonging to a nationhood,among any segment of a national society.No group of people or society,who consider themselves part of a nationhood,negotiate their national identity.It is not something negotiable,we must be wary of those who do.
In Kashmir there are many who repudiate their Indian identity and there are those who cling to their Indianness.We must decide whose cause we will serve and fight to defend.Should our efforts go toward convincing the former to embrace a nation they loath to call their own,or should our efforts be garnered towards securing the life and land of the people who upon the pain of death and dishonor,assert they are Indian now and for eternity.
Why do I have to from Pakistan or Kashmir to understand logic? I think we Indians are smart enough to see it. Kindly read my post in context with the thread title.
Solution to Kashmir keeping in mind Indias energy security and corridor to CAR
The status-quo does not help us this case. This thread is looking for possible solution to secure our interest in Afghanistan and Central Asia. We cannot forcibly take the land from Pakistan. That would lead to an all out war on two fronts. Are we ready?
Therefore, I presented an idea of appeasement (something that Congress is good at) that would help us improve our relations with Kashmir (including GB and NA). Kashmir is always going to be dependant on India. My idea is to develop the state in such a way that they grow but are still largely dependent on rest of the Indians. For example: We should concentrate on road, rail and air network to facilitate tourism. As money starts pouring into the Aam aadmi of Kashmir they would realise the benefits of having good relations with India.
That is the strategy which is being followed. Pakistan has nothing to offer to the Kashmiris, and no Kashmiri seriously wants to be part of Pakistan, an economically and socially backward state. The Kashmiris have lived with India and tasted freedom, liberty and rights far too long for them to be able to ever join Pakistan. The AFSPA may be bad, but in India, it is still an oft disputed act; in Pakistan, AFSPA is a lifestyle, there are no alternatives to it.
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TAPI gas pipeline should changed into Turkmenistan,Afghanistan, Pakistan and China. India should not be there and they does not deserve that. In future China and pakistan should persue attack on India to reclaim Kashmir Valley with Delhi and UP.
pakistan should help bangladesh in nuclear field. An Islamic empowerment will lead this way truly, beacuse it will allow indonesia and Malaysia to encircle India in next 20 years if india dont change its instance with Muslims and Pakistan.
pakistan should help bangladesh in nuclear field. An Islamic empowerment will lead this way truly, beacuse it will allow indonesia and Malaysia to encircle India in next 20 years if india dont change its instance with Muslims and Pakistan.
SRINAGAR: In occupied Kashmir, the authorities placed the Chairman of All Parties Hurriyet Conference, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq, senior Kashmiri Hurriyet leader, Syed Ali Gilani and other Hurriyet leaders, Agha Syed Hassan Al-Moosvi, Fazl Haq Qureshi and Mian Abdul Qayoom under house arrest on Friday, to prevent them from leading the anti-polls demonstrations.
The occupation authorities have imposed undeclared curfew in Srinagar and Badgam towns while the adjacent areas of Jamia Masjid in Srinagar have been sealed.
Meanwhile, Indian troopers of Rashtriya Rifles barged into a house and gang-raped a 13-year-old girl at Dandipora in Islamabad district. Thousands of people took to streets against the inhuman incident and raised anti-India and pro-liberation slogans.
source: http://geo.tv/12-5-2008/30153.htm
very sad
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Kashmiri "leaders" shouldn't be under house arrest, they should all be tried and executed for treason. India has been dealing with Pakistan with kid gloves for far too long. A country whose GDP is less than that of a single Indian state, and which is famous the world over for its terrorists and Army dictatorships should have been erased from the map long ago. But India is not in a hurry to resolve Kashmir. We will wait, and keep growing, while Pakistan sinks into the abyss further and further. Day by day the gulf between the economic and military might of the two countries increases. In a decade or two, India will have left Pakistan far behind.....a situation akin to Mexico and US today.
India does not need to propose a solution to Kashmir, the solution will be Pakistan's eventual disintegration and annexation of its parts back into Mother India. All we have to do is be patient and grow our military/economic/cultural might in the meantime.
India does not need to propose a solution to Kashmir, the solution will be Pakistan's eventual disintegration and annexation of its parts back into Mother India. All we have to do is be patient and grow our military/economic/cultural might in the meantime.
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lol what fairytales
your allies half way across the world are shouting to bomb land of pure and you're here in your own deluded world. Again using muslim card i see 
when was the last time pakis bombed a mosque in land of pure you rat ?our allies are china, Arabs, Turkey not west. We and west both using each other.lol what fairytales
The last time they bombed in all indian asses. chutiye..
Around 16 insurgencies in india. Assam, manipur, nagaland, maoist and other tribes states are uncontrollable. ethnic differences risen day by day in india and it will fall down like a cards.
American days are now over and indian encircling will begin when US leave afghanistan.
Mother India will be there but rulers will be changed forever.
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allies ? more like masters. aur chutiya hoga tera baap
NEW DELHI: There is a direct link between the Maoist attacks on security forces in Chhattisgarh over the past two days, and a statement issued by the CPI (Maoist) on June 3, exhorting "oppose Army deployment in Bastar". The statement from Dandakaranya special zonal committee spokesperson Gudsa Usendi seems to be a warning of things to come.
A fresh statement issued by Usendi on Friday confirms that the earlier statement was a warning about attacks on security forces by the Maoist army PLGA.
In the latest statement, the Maoists have claimed that the PLGA would launch similar strikes like the ones on Friday and Saturday. The rebels have been demanding an end to Operation Green Hunt; to reverse the proposal to allot 750sq km land for the training college, where the Army will be present to train paramilitary forces to combat Maoists; action against senior police officials, who were responsible for atrocities against villagers at Chintalnar and the unconditional release of tribals who are languishing in jails on charges of being Left ultras.
The attacks that killed 13 security personnel over the last two days are a warning against the Army.
The party had also issued a statement, warning against the Army's presence at the training centre in Kanker when the proposal first came up. Having lost many of its senior comrades since then, including Azad, the Maoists are wary of the Army.
"Talk of training is nothing but a ploy to deceit the people! Giving powers to the Army to attack in the pretext of 'self-defense, is nothing but free-hand for massacres and atrocities on adivasis," are the slogans of the June 3rd statement. "As the first column of the Indian Army arrived in Kanker, the formal process of Army deployment in Bastar has commenced," it warned.
It explained. "It's being said that in the name of self defense, ministries of defense and law had issued guiding principles for the Army... the glaring fact is that the Army is now deployed in the ongoing war against people of our country."
Maoist warning foretold attacks on security forces in Chhattisgarh? - Times Of India
Although under the mask of democracy and secularism, Indian subsequent regimes dominated by politicians from the Hindi heartland—Hindutva (Hindu nationalism) have been using brutal force ruthlessly in suppressing the wars of liberation in more than six states, yet failure of India's anti-Maoist war needs special attention. In this regard, Indian Home Minister P. Chidambaram, while contending the parliamentary consultative committee, said that the chief ministers of the four states worst hit by Maoist violence—Chhattisgarh, Orissa, West Bengal and Jharkhand, and they have agreed on July 14, 2011 to set up a unified command centre for joint operations. The centre would help strengthen the police infrastructure and provide helicopters. He further claimed, "The government is confident that the problem of left-wing extremism will be overcome very soon."
An Indian annual report of 2010 had exaggerated, "the overall counter-action by the affected states in terms of left-wing extremists killed, arrested and surrendered has shown much better results." While this time, the annual report has held out no similar words of reassurance. Even though Chidambaram's anti-Maoist war has disappeared off our television screens, the evidence shows that it has run into big trouble, showing his wishful thinking.
On the other side, last year, India's Maoist insurgency became progressively more lethal—1003 people were killed in 2010, 908 in 2009 and 721 in 2008. Particularly in 2010, new operations of the Indian security forces have exposed the failure of India's anti-Maoist war. Faced with frustration, on May 18 last year, Home Minister P. Chidamabram said that the Indian government "welcomes peace talks with Maoist rebels." On the other hand, Ramanna, a Maoist leader in Chhattisgarh state rejected the offer, saying that the government should first withdraw thousands of paramilitary soldiers, and create peaceful conditions for talks.
However, peace talks were offered by the New Delhi after the Maoist insurgents ambushed a bus on May 17, 2010 that killed 45 police officers and civilians who were returning after an operation, killing two Maoists. The event highlighted the Maoists' strength despite a government offensive aimed at ending one of Asia's longest militancy. Besides, on May 26, Maoist militants sabotaged a high-speed train in eastern India, killing at least 65 people.
In fact, Maoist uprising which has taken the form of armed struggle is indigenous. It has become an unending insurgency due to the injustices and state terrorism perpetrated by the rich Hindus and Indian security forces.
Maoist movement initially started by its leader, Mupala Luxman Rao in 1969 in the form of peasant uprising in West Bengal, protesting against big Hindu landlords who left no stone unturned in molesting the poor people through their mal-treatment such as forced labour, minimum wages, maximum work, unlawful torture and even killings—the evils one could note prior to the Frech Revolution of 1789 when fedual lords had practised similar injustices on the farmers. But, instead of redressing the grievances of the peasants and workers, Indian security forces in connivance with the rich-dominated society used the forces of state terrorism in crushing the Maoist movement. The Maoists had no choice, but to launch an armed struggle for their genuine rights.
The Naxalite-Maoists, as they call themselves, are the liberators, representing landless farmers and the downtrodden masses who have been entangled into vicious circle of poverty, misery and deprivation. The Indian indiscriminate social order treats them resentfully, setting aside human dignity. Owing to these inequalities, Maoists have appealed to the sentments of the helpless poor, who found their future dark under the susequent regimes led by so-called democratic forces of India. According to a report, "Out of total 1.17 billion populations, over 39% of dispossessed Indians, living below poverty line are hopeful that Maoists would bring a change in their wretched lives."
Ideologically, the Naxalites believe that Indians have yet need freedom from hunger and deprivation, and from the exploitation of the poor by the rich classes of landlords, industrialists and traders who control the means of production. Due to these reasons, Maoists target all representatives of the state like politicians, the police and other officials. At local level, they target village functionaries and landlords.
Having its voice unheard, Maoist movement which had been raging in West Bengal, Bihar, Orissa, Jharkand, Chattisgarh, Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh and Andhra Pradesh, has expanded to Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu and Kerala. In the recent months, Maoist insurgency has intensified enveloping new areas. Now, it is a popular movement which has massive support of people for its ideology.
Notably, Maoist movement has become a violent struggle because of the use of undue force by the Indian security forces. In this regard, on October 31, 2009, The New York Times wrote, "India's Maoist rebels are now present in 20 states and have evolved into a potent insurgency. In the last four years, the Maoists have killed more than 900 Indian security officers"¦violence erupts almost daily." The Times explained, "Indian leaders are now preparing to deploy nearly 70,000 paramilitary officers for a prolonged counterinsurgency campaign to hunt down the guerrillas in some of the country's most rugged terrain"¦India's rapid economic growth has made it an emerging global power but also deepened stark inequalities in society. Maoists accuse the government of trying to push tribal groups off their land to gain access to raw materials and have sabotaged roads, bridges and even an energy pipeline."
BBC had reported on October 12, 2009, "In response to the atrocities of the Indian police, Maoist rebels had blown up culverts and cut electricity to railways in various regions during two-day strike."
Naxalite insurgency known as Red Corridor has become so popular that India is actively considering shifting 23 battalions of para-military forces from occupied Kashmir to the Maoist affected areas.
While on the one hand, Indian rulers realise the real causes of Maoist uprising, but still accuse China of backing the Maoist guerrilla warfare. Some Indian high officials misperceive that China supplies armes and ammuniton to the Maoists. With the covert support of Indian secret agency, RAW, Indians also propagate that there are secret training camps in China, which teach tactics of guerrilla warfare to the Maoists, and then they are being despatched to India.
It is mentionable that Maoist guerrilla commanders have been providing basic military training to local youths in West Bengal. They use weapons which they have snatched from the installations of Indian security forces. Since their struggle, they have kidnapped a number of personnel of the armed forces. Some poor persons, serving in the Indian forces have also provided them with arms and ammunition.
It is noteworthy that in the autumn of 2009, Chidambaram had initiated a sweeping offensive against Maoists when many security forces were mobilized to displace the insurgents from their strongholds. Former Home Secretary GK Pillai had announced that "within 30 days of the security forces moving in, we should be able to restore civil administration." But that claim also proved fruitless.
Surprisingly, on September 21, 2009, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh had admitted, saying, Maoist "insurgency is the single biggest threat to India's security"¦his country is losing the battle against Maoist rebels"¦violence is increasing"¦affects a third of all districts" and "Maoists have growing appeal among a large section of Indian society including tribal communities, the rural poor and the intelligentsia."
Nevertheless, every hope to win the battle against Maoist uprising has shattered. Finding themselves lacking the combat skills and intelligence needed to outmanoeuvre insurgent units in the forests—a lesson hammered home that Indian central forces have been doing little more than protecting their camps.
Experts predicts unsuccessful outcome of this conflict. In this respect, the former Director-General of Punjab Police KPS Gill warned that New Delhi was chasing a chimera. There was, he noted, a pattern: "months of State denial, appeasement and progressive error; paralysis in the face of rising Maoist violence."
Nonetheless, every claim of successful counter-insurgency has resulted in failure of India's anti-Maoist war.
Sajjad Shaukat writes on international affairs and is author of the book: US vs Islamic Militants, Invisible Balance of Power: Dangerous Shift in International Relations
A fresh statement issued by Usendi on Friday confirms that the earlier statement was a warning about attacks on security forces by the Maoist army PLGA.
In the latest statement, the Maoists have claimed that the PLGA would launch similar strikes like the ones on Friday and Saturday. The rebels have been demanding an end to Operation Green Hunt; to reverse the proposal to allot 750sq km land for the training college, where the Army will be present to train paramilitary forces to combat Maoists; action against senior police officials, who were responsible for atrocities against villagers at Chintalnar and the unconditional release of tribals who are languishing in jails on charges of being Left ultras.
The attacks that killed 13 security personnel over the last two days are a warning against the Army.
The party had also issued a statement, warning against the Army's presence at the training centre in Kanker when the proposal first came up. Having lost many of its senior comrades since then, including Azad, the Maoists are wary of the Army.
"Talk of training is nothing but a ploy to deceit the people! Giving powers to the Army to attack in the pretext of 'self-defense, is nothing but free-hand for massacres and atrocities on adivasis," are the slogans of the June 3rd statement. "As the first column of the Indian Army arrived in Kanker, the formal process of Army deployment in Bastar has commenced," it warned.
It explained. "It's being said that in the name of self defense, ministries of defense and law had issued guiding principles for the Army... the glaring fact is that the Army is now deployed in the ongoing war against people of our country."
Maoist warning foretold attacks on security forces in Chhattisgarh? - Times Of India
Although under the mask of democracy and secularism, Indian subsequent regimes dominated by politicians from the Hindi heartland—Hindutva (Hindu nationalism) have been using brutal force ruthlessly in suppressing the wars of liberation in more than six states, yet failure of India's anti-Maoist war needs special attention. In this regard, Indian Home Minister P. Chidambaram, while contending the parliamentary consultative committee, said that the chief ministers of the four states worst hit by Maoist violence—Chhattisgarh, Orissa, West Bengal and Jharkhand, and they have agreed on July 14, 2011 to set up a unified command centre for joint operations. The centre would help strengthen the police infrastructure and provide helicopters. He further claimed, "The government is confident that the problem of left-wing extremism will be overcome very soon."
An Indian annual report of 2010 had exaggerated, "the overall counter-action by the affected states in terms of left-wing extremists killed, arrested and surrendered has shown much better results." While this time, the annual report has held out no similar words of reassurance. Even though Chidambaram's anti-Maoist war has disappeared off our television screens, the evidence shows that it has run into big trouble, showing his wishful thinking.
On the other side, last year, India's Maoist insurgency became progressively more lethal—1003 people were killed in 2010, 908 in 2009 and 721 in 2008. Particularly in 2010, new operations of the Indian security forces have exposed the failure of India's anti-Maoist war. Faced with frustration, on May 18 last year, Home Minister P. Chidamabram said that the Indian government "welcomes peace talks with Maoist rebels." On the other hand, Ramanna, a Maoist leader in Chhattisgarh state rejected the offer, saying that the government should first withdraw thousands of paramilitary soldiers, and create peaceful conditions for talks.
However, peace talks were offered by the New Delhi after the Maoist insurgents ambushed a bus on May 17, 2010 that killed 45 police officers and civilians who were returning after an operation, killing two Maoists. The event highlighted the Maoists' strength despite a government offensive aimed at ending one of Asia's longest militancy. Besides, on May 26, Maoist militants sabotaged a high-speed train in eastern India, killing at least 65 people.
In fact, Maoist uprising which has taken the form of armed struggle is indigenous. It has become an unending insurgency due to the injustices and state terrorism perpetrated by the rich Hindus and Indian security forces.
Maoist movement initially started by its leader, Mupala Luxman Rao in 1969 in the form of peasant uprising in West Bengal, protesting against big Hindu landlords who left no stone unturned in molesting the poor people through their mal-treatment such as forced labour, minimum wages, maximum work, unlawful torture and even killings—the evils one could note prior to the Frech Revolution of 1789 when fedual lords had practised similar injustices on the farmers. But, instead of redressing the grievances of the peasants and workers, Indian security forces in connivance with the rich-dominated society used the forces of state terrorism in crushing the Maoist movement. The Maoists had no choice, but to launch an armed struggle for their genuine rights.
The Naxalite-Maoists, as they call themselves, are the liberators, representing landless farmers and the downtrodden masses who have been entangled into vicious circle of poverty, misery and deprivation. The Indian indiscriminate social order treats them resentfully, setting aside human dignity. Owing to these inequalities, Maoists have appealed to the sentments of the helpless poor, who found their future dark under the susequent regimes led by so-called democratic forces of India. According to a report, "Out of total 1.17 billion populations, over 39% of dispossessed Indians, living below poverty line are hopeful that Maoists would bring a change in their wretched lives."
Ideologically, the Naxalites believe that Indians have yet need freedom from hunger and deprivation, and from the exploitation of the poor by the rich classes of landlords, industrialists and traders who control the means of production. Due to these reasons, Maoists target all representatives of the state like politicians, the police and other officials. At local level, they target village functionaries and landlords.
Having its voice unheard, Maoist movement which had been raging in West Bengal, Bihar, Orissa, Jharkand, Chattisgarh, Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh and Andhra Pradesh, has expanded to Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu and Kerala. In the recent months, Maoist insurgency has intensified enveloping new areas. Now, it is a popular movement which has massive support of people for its ideology.
Notably, Maoist movement has become a violent struggle because of the use of undue force by the Indian security forces. In this regard, on October 31, 2009, The New York Times wrote, "India's Maoist rebels are now present in 20 states and have evolved into a potent insurgency. In the last four years, the Maoists have killed more than 900 Indian security officers"¦violence erupts almost daily." The Times explained, "Indian leaders are now preparing to deploy nearly 70,000 paramilitary officers for a prolonged counterinsurgency campaign to hunt down the guerrillas in some of the country's most rugged terrain"¦India's rapid economic growth has made it an emerging global power but also deepened stark inequalities in society. Maoists accuse the government of trying to push tribal groups off their land to gain access to raw materials and have sabotaged roads, bridges and even an energy pipeline."
BBC had reported on October 12, 2009, "In response to the atrocities of the Indian police, Maoist rebels had blown up culverts and cut electricity to railways in various regions during two-day strike."
Naxalite insurgency known as Red Corridor has become so popular that India is actively considering shifting 23 battalions of para-military forces from occupied Kashmir to the Maoist affected areas.
While on the one hand, Indian rulers realise the real causes of Maoist uprising, but still accuse China of backing the Maoist guerrilla warfare. Some Indian high officials misperceive that China supplies armes and ammuniton to the Maoists. With the covert support of Indian secret agency, RAW, Indians also propagate that there are secret training camps in China, which teach tactics of guerrilla warfare to the Maoists, and then they are being despatched to India.
It is mentionable that Maoist guerrilla commanders have been providing basic military training to local youths in West Bengal. They use weapons which they have snatched from the installations of Indian security forces. Since their struggle, they have kidnapped a number of personnel of the armed forces. Some poor persons, serving in the Indian forces have also provided them with arms and ammunition.
It is noteworthy that in the autumn of 2009, Chidambaram had initiated a sweeping offensive against Maoists when many security forces were mobilized to displace the insurgents from their strongholds. Former Home Secretary GK Pillai had announced that "within 30 days of the security forces moving in, we should be able to restore civil administration." But that claim also proved fruitless.
Surprisingly, on September 21, 2009, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh had admitted, saying, Maoist "insurgency is the single biggest threat to India's security"¦his country is losing the battle against Maoist rebels"¦violence is increasing"¦affects a third of all districts" and "Maoists have growing appeal among a large section of Indian society including tribal communities, the rural poor and the intelligentsia."
Nevertheless, every hope to win the battle against Maoist uprising has shattered. Finding themselves lacking the combat skills and intelligence needed to outmanoeuvre insurgent units in the forests—a lesson hammered home that Indian central forces have been doing little more than protecting their camps.
Experts predicts unsuccessful outcome of this conflict. In this respect, the former Director-General of Punjab Police KPS Gill warned that New Delhi was chasing a chimera. There was, he noted, a pattern: "months of State denial, appeasement and progressive error; paralysis in the face of rising Maoist violence."
Nonetheless, every claim of successful counter-insurgency has resulted in failure of India's anti-Maoist war.
Sajjad Shaukat writes on international affairs and is author of the book: US vs Islamic Militants, Invisible Balance of Power: Dangerous Shift in International Relations
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The Maoists in Nepal have launched a vicious anti-India propaganda campaign through a film, Dasgaja, being screened in about half a dozen theatres in Kathmandu. Dasgaja or 'Ten Yards' has vignettes of a border dispute and portrays India as a hegemonic power and bully.
Sample some scenes from the film:
Scene A: An Indian official walks into the office of the head of Nepal's border survey team and offers him a briefcase filled with currency and tells him that it was for his daughter's education and the border inspection duties should be left to Indian officials. The Indian official then goes on to say, "You know that you can't do a thing without our approval. You can't even appoint a priest in your own temple without our endorsement.''
Scene B: A Nepali worker, working in a restaurant in India is slapped and his nationality is abused when inadvertently he spills water over an Indian customer.
Scene C: India's Home Minister speaking on phone to his Nepalese counterpart, asks him not to persist with his demand of fresh inspection of the Indo-Nepal border, failing which, the Minister threatens that the government of Nepal would be toppled.
Scene D: Scenes of atrocities by Indian border guards and the hero of the film leading a group of armed men and women, and removing the border pillar wrongly erected by India.
Another movie based on an old Indo-Nepal dispute, directed by Uddham Abidits, is to be released soon. The area portrayed, Kalapani, is located on the India's western border with Nepal. The dispute over the area is due to the differences between the two countries over the origin of the Kali River. Nepal's claims on Kalapani, is based on the contention that the river to the west of Kali is the main Kali River, whereas India claims that the river to the east of Kalapani is the main Kali River.
About four years back, there was another documentary Greater Nepal made by one Manoj Pandit, which called for restoration of large parts of West Bengal, the entire Sikkim, parts of Uttrakhand and Himachal Pardesh to Nepal, over which he averred that Nepal had historical claims.
The Maoist cadres have also been defacing foundation stones and insulting the Indian Tri-Colour, at projects and programmes assisted by India. Showing of black flags to the Indian Ambassador during his movement in Kathmandu, has become a regular affair.
Earlier, in October 2010, the Ministry of External Affairs had summoned Nepal's Ambassador to India, Rukma Shumsher Rana to seek explanation over the misbehaviour of Maoist cadres towards the Indian Ambassador to Nepal, Rakesh Sood. Some Maoist cadres on 6 October 2010 had greeted the Ambassador with black flags and one of them hurled a shoe at a team of visiting Indian Embassy officials.
In fact, India's Foreign Minister, SM Krishna, during his recent visit to Kathmandu in April 2011, expressed 'serious concern' at the attacks on the Indian Ambassador. Her also met various Maoist leaders including Parchanda and took up the issue of the ongoing anti-India campaign. Some top leaders were present at a formal dinner meeting in the Indian Embassy. Despite assurances, the anti-India campaign by the Maoists has not abated. Rather, it has become more shrill, virulent and violent.
The Maoists have been trying to overplay and even fabricate issues to create animosity between India and Nepal. The anti-India campaign by the Maoists in Nepal is becoming increasingly fierce and vicious, as the Maoist leadership feels that it is India, which is the stumbling block in their bid to capture power. That the Maoists are being prodded by China is all too obvious. The border issues between India and Nepal has hardly generated any bitterness. The issue of Indian priests in the 'Pashupati Temple' in Kathmandu is a revered historical tradition signifying the deep religious and cultural links between the two countries.
The anti-India campaign of the Maoists is a well-deliberated strategy and is in consonance with the 'Fourth Phase' of the Maoist agitation, announced in January 2010, in the Central Committee meeting. Originally, this phase was to be driven by the agenda of 'Civilian Supremacy', but was suspended in favour of an anti-India campaign because the Maoists feel that it was at the behest of India that the Maoist government fell following its aborted bid to remove the Nepal Army Chief in May 2009.
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The Nepal Army, the Maoist leadership feels is the only robust barrier in its way to establishing its one-party revolutionary regime. In its anti-India campaign, and in keeping with the sensitivities of Indian Maoists, Prachanda while embarking on the Fourth Phase, proffered: "Dialogues and struggle with Indian state, and solidarity with Indian people."
In the same Central Committee meeting, a decision was taken to send five top Maoist leaders to five disputed border locations i.e. Kalapani, Susta, Pashupati Nagar, Laxmanpur, and Khurdalautan. There were also plans to publicly burn copies of the Indo-Nepal Treaty 1950, Sugauli Treaty 1816, and other bilateral agreements. Demonstrations near the Indian Embassy were also part of the plan.
The Maoists viewed preceding Prime Minister Madhav Nepal as a stooge of India. So did China. During his visit to China in Decemeber 2009, the Chinese authorities were high on assurances and rhetoric but low on yield. This is mainly ascribed to the Chinese perception that the Madhav Nepal government was backed by India.
No sooner Jhalanath Khanal was elected as PM in February 2011, after 17 attempts in seven months; two very significant and high level Chinese delegations visited Nepal, with economic and military agendas respectively. In February, during the visit of Vice Minister of Commerce Fu Ziyang, China and Nepal reached an agreement on details of a new economic package. In the following month, General Chen Bingde, head of China's PLA visited Kathmandu and announced US $ 20 million aid assistance, non-lethal in import.
Consequent to the Indo-US nuclear deal, the tenor and import of China's strategic thrust in Nepal has moved away from Tibet-centricity to encompass South Asia as such. Since then Nepal has become a geopolitical arena of intense rivalry between China and India. The fall of the Maoist government totally belied China's strategic calculations. Ever since then it has been on an overdrive to cobble a pro-China and anti-India government in Nepal.
The political dynamics in Nepal has lessons for India particularly in the context of the Left parties and organisations. From Nepal's example, it is beyond doubt that the divergence between the Maoists and mainstream Communists is manipulated by China and other Leftist benefactors. The convergence is also manipulated.
Maoists infiltrate other parties as well or float parties and organisations ostensibly hostile but inherently sympathetic as in the case of Upendra Yadav, the founder of the Madhesi Janadhikar Forum (MJF). Jhalanath Khanal, though a CPN (UML) leader, has been known for his affinity to the Maoists. He had been lobbying in China and India for removal of his predecessor Madhav Nepal, a member of his own party.
The Maoists have never been so close to the capture of power and setting a totalitarian state. The resolution in the recent CCOMPOSA meet in India, categorically states that the Maoist's revolution is at a critical stage and the entire world is watching the outcome. The transition of Maoists in Nepal has been from criminals, to revolutionaries, to political activists, and to partners in government. The next scenario would be a complete Maoist takeover.
Courtesy: Indian Defence Review
RSN Singh is a former military intelligence officer who later served in the Research and Analysis Wing, or R&AW. The author of two books: Asian Strategic and Military Perspective and Military Factor in Pakistan, he is also Associate Editor, Indian Defence Review.
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Maoists unleash anti-India campaign in Nepal
So is China's influence in Nepal working?
Is seems that Nepalese communists are anti-india.
It is also known that Nepal also has territorial dispute(s) with India.
Is it possible that the Anti-Indian government in Nepal might use this card?
India may have three enemies:
(1) Pakistan
(2) China
(3) Perhaps to a lesser extent, Nepal...
Whos next...???
Sample some scenes from the film:
Scene A: An Indian official walks into the office of the head of Nepal's border survey team and offers him a briefcase filled with currency and tells him that it was for his daughter's education and the border inspection duties should be left to Indian officials. The Indian official then goes on to say, "You know that you can't do a thing without our approval. You can't even appoint a priest in your own temple without our endorsement.''
Scene B: A Nepali worker, working in a restaurant in India is slapped and his nationality is abused when inadvertently he spills water over an Indian customer.
Scene C: India's Home Minister speaking on phone to his Nepalese counterpart, asks him not to persist with his demand of fresh inspection of the Indo-Nepal border, failing which, the Minister threatens that the government of Nepal would be toppled.
Scene D: Scenes of atrocities by Indian border guards and the hero of the film leading a group of armed men and women, and removing the border pillar wrongly erected by India.
Another movie based on an old Indo-Nepal dispute, directed by Uddham Abidits, is to be released soon. The area portrayed, Kalapani, is located on the India's western border with Nepal. The dispute over the area is due to the differences between the two countries over the origin of the Kali River. Nepal's claims on Kalapani, is based on the contention that the river to the west of Kali is the main Kali River, whereas India claims that the river to the east of Kalapani is the main Kali River.
About four years back, there was another documentary Greater Nepal made by one Manoj Pandit, which called for restoration of large parts of West Bengal, the entire Sikkim, parts of Uttrakhand and Himachal Pardesh to Nepal, over which he averred that Nepal had historical claims.
The Maoist cadres have also been defacing foundation stones and insulting the Indian Tri-Colour, at projects and programmes assisted by India. Showing of black flags to the Indian Ambassador during his movement in Kathmandu, has become a regular affair.
Earlier, in October 2010, the Ministry of External Affairs had summoned Nepal's Ambassador to India, Rukma Shumsher Rana to seek explanation over the misbehaviour of Maoist cadres towards the Indian Ambassador to Nepal, Rakesh Sood. Some Maoist cadres on 6 October 2010 had greeted the Ambassador with black flags and one of them hurled a shoe at a team of visiting Indian Embassy officials.
In fact, India's Foreign Minister, SM Krishna, during his recent visit to Kathmandu in April 2011, expressed 'serious concern' at the attacks on the Indian Ambassador. Her also met various Maoist leaders including Parchanda and took up the issue of the ongoing anti-India campaign. Some top leaders were present at a formal dinner meeting in the Indian Embassy. Despite assurances, the anti-India campaign by the Maoists has not abated. Rather, it has become more shrill, virulent and violent.
The Maoists have been trying to overplay and even fabricate issues to create animosity between India and Nepal. The anti-India campaign by the Maoists in Nepal is becoming increasingly fierce and vicious, as the Maoist leadership feels that it is India, which is the stumbling block in their bid to capture power. That the Maoists are being prodded by China is all too obvious. The border issues between India and Nepal has hardly generated any bitterness. The issue of Indian priests in the 'Pashupati Temple' in Kathmandu is a revered historical tradition signifying the deep religious and cultural links between the two countries.
The anti-India campaign of the Maoists is a well-deliberated strategy and is in consonance with the 'Fourth Phase' of the Maoist agitation, announced in January 2010, in the Central Committee meeting. Originally, this phase was to be driven by the agenda of 'Civilian Supremacy', but was suspended in favour of an anti-India campaign because the Maoists feel that it was at the behest of India that the Maoist government fell following its aborted bid to remove the Nepal Army Chief in May 2009.
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Shortage of Officers in the Services
The Nepal Army, the Maoist leadership feels is the only robust barrier in its way to establishing its one-party revolutionary regime. In its anti-India campaign, and in keeping with the sensitivities of Indian Maoists, Prachanda while embarking on the Fourth Phase, proffered: "Dialogues and struggle with Indian state, and solidarity with Indian people."
In the same Central Committee meeting, a decision was taken to send five top Maoist leaders to five disputed border locations i.e. Kalapani, Susta, Pashupati Nagar, Laxmanpur, and Khurdalautan. There were also plans to publicly burn copies of the Indo-Nepal Treaty 1950, Sugauli Treaty 1816, and other bilateral agreements. Demonstrations near the Indian Embassy were also part of the plan.
The Maoists viewed preceding Prime Minister Madhav Nepal as a stooge of India. So did China. During his visit to China in Decemeber 2009, the Chinese authorities were high on assurances and rhetoric but low on yield. This is mainly ascribed to the Chinese perception that the Madhav Nepal government was backed by India.
No sooner Jhalanath Khanal was elected as PM in February 2011, after 17 attempts in seven months; two very significant and high level Chinese delegations visited Nepal, with economic and military agendas respectively. In February, during the visit of Vice Minister of Commerce Fu Ziyang, China and Nepal reached an agreement on details of a new economic package. In the following month, General Chen Bingde, head of China's PLA visited Kathmandu and announced US $ 20 million aid assistance, non-lethal in import.
Consequent to the Indo-US nuclear deal, the tenor and import of China's strategic thrust in Nepal has moved away from Tibet-centricity to encompass South Asia as such. Since then Nepal has become a geopolitical arena of intense rivalry between China and India. The fall of the Maoist government totally belied China's strategic calculations. Ever since then it has been on an overdrive to cobble a pro-China and anti-India government in Nepal.
The political dynamics in Nepal has lessons for India particularly in the context of the Left parties and organisations. From Nepal's example, it is beyond doubt that the divergence between the Maoists and mainstream Communists is manipulated by China and other Leftist benefactors. The convergence is also manipulated.
Maoists infiltrate other parties as well or float parties and organisations ostensibly hostile but inherently sympathetic as in the case of Upendra Yadav, the founder of the Madhesi Janadhikar Forum (MJF). Jhalanath Khanal, though a CPN (UML) leader, has been known for his affinity to the Maoists. He had been lobbying in China and India for removal of his predecessor Madhav Nepal, a member of his own party.
The Maoists have never been so close to the capture of power and setting a totalitarian state. The resolution in the recent CCOMPOSA meet in India, categorically states that the Maoist's revolution is at a critical stage and the entire world is watching the outcome. The transition of Maoists in Nepal has been from criminals, to revolutionaries, to political activists, and to partners in government. The next scenario would be a complete Maoist takeover.
Courtesy: Indian Defence Review
RSN Singh is a former military intelligence officer who later served in the Research and Analysis Wing, or R&AW. The author of two books: Asian Strategic and Military Perspective and Military Factor in Pakistan, he is also Associate Editor, Indian Defence Review.
http://im.sify.com/index2/images/oct2010/RSN-Singh.jpg
Maoists unleash anti-India campaign in Nepal
So is China's influence in Nepal working?
Is seems that Nepalese communists are anti-india.
It is also known that Nepal also has territorial dispute(s) with India.
Is it possible that the Anti-Indian government in Nepal might use this card?
India may have three enemies:
(1) Pakistan
(2) China
(3) Perhaps to a lesser extent, Nepal...
Whos next...???
Ma ke lore bhosre mai ja..
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Hey Paki piglet! Didnt get your rusty danda up yours from Uncle Sam!
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Hey RAPE, ex-Hindu who never got the guts to stand up like the rest of the Hindu's, you Paki piglets, whose ancestors where raped and enslaved by Islamic invaders. How many piglets died in the last year, how many are going to live this year. You keep on dreaming paki. Dr.War! What an idiot!
