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  1. Deathstar

    Deathstar Regular Member

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    Only thr BJP IT cell is enough to rattle the Pakistanis , why dont we do it
    We can easily steer Balochistan atrocities
     
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    To be honest, BJP alone doesn't have that responsibility. Why cant our IB/RAW hire a bunch of students/youths and start the campaign?

    After ICJ verdict I tried approaching our OSINT handles on twitter with suggestion of starting a campaign of #NayaPakistan_PuraniBezatti but since its not a targeted approach I got no response.
     
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    Pakistanis established their Propaganda wing in 47 itself and we showed how its useful in 71 with anti pak Propaganda in Bangladesh
     
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    What if the bunch of students/youth turn against OWN like our presstitutes in Indian media.

    India said pakistan "PROPAGANDA" in Kashmir is winning.
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    meaning..for pakistan Kashmir is a PROPAGANDA and nothing else...and we acknowledged it.
     
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    The majority wouldn't. Plus its not a free enterprise- a small payment, if need be- would help suffice for a positive outcome.

    Exactly. And if you follow social media, kashmiris make most noises. Have we countered their propaganda by Pro India voices in Kashmir valley or Jammu? We will spend millions to buy loyalty from a group vile Anti India snakes but wont spend a dime to propagate Pro India voices.

    We are in the day and age, whereby we can completely side step the entire presstitutes created ecosystem with minimum investment and maximum effects (Eg BJP)
     
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    We did learn by 99 and our coverage and reporting was extensive. However, we failed to use it to built our narrative. Look at what Pakistan did with Abhi sir's footage.

    Even with Op Balakot, I sincerely wish, someone from MOD/IAF/RAW would have advised the PM and his National Security team about the need for counter propaganda to be as much as part of the overall military objective as the strike itself and to call off the strike under dense cloud cover OR to at least release Sat Image and debrief to friendly countries (A small bite from German diplomat post SS1 literally changed our narrative)
     
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    Cant buy patriotism with payment...The involvement of money changes everything!

    this is where the game becomes mucky. These operators will soon become sort of stooges who bats for the highest bidder like our media.

    We need not do PROPAGANDA as Kashmir is real and part of India..Propaganda is needed by those who want to dent and bend. The game is to put REAL WORLD efforts in Kashmir that we wont need any sort of propaganda stuffs..but them bitches in Kashmir falling in place.

    The game of BJP is to make every patriot take the NATIONALISM game on their own way to counter the anti india narrative.
    and its working...
    everyone with a nationalist view is voluntarily jumping in and doing their part.. thats like opening a million flanks against the DGISPR and other resource constraint stooges.

    so far..so good...from time to time we just need to pamper the paki ego so that they stick to their failed attack plans and delusions.
     
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    We need patriotism like India and a leader who is trusted by all: Sri Lankan Buddhist monk

    A controversial Sri Lankan Buddhist monk, Galagoda Aththe Gnanasara Thero, says that the majority Sinhala community can learn from Prime Minister Narendra Modi's policy of zero-tolerance to terrorism.

    "India’s action is important to us and if we become prey of Islamic terrorism it will be a threat for India as well. So, the understanding of the leaders is important," he tells in an exclusive interview to WION's Ramesh Ramachandran.

    Gnanasara Thero is the general secretary of Bodu Bala Sena, a group comprising the Sinhala Buddhist clergy. He was released from the prison in May this year after president Maithripala Sirisena pardoned him.

    The monk says that the Bodu Bala Sena has not decided who to support in the forthcoming presidential election in Sri Lanka.
     
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    When i say payment- its a nominal fees to cover basic expenditures. Most of us students will do it for free if given a chance. What we need is a direction, support and leadership. The majority of students/youths are extremely patriotic. Plus why would you think our ''operators'' will shift loyalties? If Pakistan can have faith in its ''operator'' (Who btw can be bought just as easily) why not have faith in Indian ''operator''. Vet them before hiring if need be.


    I beg to differ on Kashmir, the recent article on Pakistan winning the propaganda war tells you how important information warfare is. Propaganda inst just about controlling Kashmir but rather Kashmirs. If you think propaganda is dirty word, call it narrative but that doesn't change the basic reality that we have just not given space to voices that tell how the Indian rule has brought progress, prosperity, development. That average Kashmiri in JNK is better off in India than POK, enjoys more freedom, has more purchasing power, better standard of living and more educated. Since everything boils down to money, why not shift the discussion from ''Azadi'' to ''Arthsathra''? But do we see any narrative on it? Discussions? Pictures?



    Kudos to BJP. Credit to them for changing the narrative on nationalism. But my contention isn't about lack of volunteers its about lack of organised targeted campaigns.

    Between Doka La standoff and Balakot strikes, here's how India lost the plot in its communication strategy

    View: India fumbled in the war of perception after Pulwama
     
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    If anyone thinks propaganda is useless,just look at the history
    Joseph Goebbels - Nazi propaganda
    Neocons - Iraq WMDs , Libya ,now Iran
    Soviet union - India - Bangladesh war 1971
    Pakistan ISPR - 1947- present
    KIM FAMILY- North Korea
    CCP - China
    Etc etc etc
     
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