Small arms of India

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  1. Raj Malhotra

    Raj Malhotra Regular Member

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    Army will never buy Indian goods even if they are from Army School
     
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  2. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    It was me who took this snap back in 2008 and uploaded on wiki with a help of a friend as i have no account/profile on any platform except orkut, back then i had no idea of watermarks nor forum.

    Their was no picture of INSAS 1B1.

    I always like photos taken by western photographers and shooters, I decided to take one for my country, at-least their is something we have too.. :)

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    Since then this picture was used everywhere, media, training centers, forums and god know where else.

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    The bullpup photo was also done by me, I made that on paint during a heated argument on MP.net with some member, Its not a serious work just an expression.

     
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  3. Johny_Baba

    Johny_Baba अज्ञानी Senior Member

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    yeah i remember the first photo,didn't know it was taken by you,dada! This one is not full hd photo as i remember original one was even bigger (around 3000 pixels by some pixels in size) but scaled down pic of original one.

    Also i told a friend on telegram that that INSAS bullpup pic is actually photoshopped,he didn't believe me initially,but coming straight from horse's mouth i stand vindicated now.

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    BTW Dada,

    you have anything to tell about this version of INSAS ?

    INSAS "Assault Rifle" with 4 position fire selectors (Safe-Semi-3RB-Auto)
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    This seems like the only pic of this particular version of INSAS.

    As from data from OFB's website about this variant it seems like an alternative that was offered to Army back when it got adopted with all fire modes (Single Fire,3 Round Burst and Full Auto) instead of 1B series ones with Single Fire and 3 Round Burst only.

    What is the status of this partiular variant ? Was it adopted in any significant number or not and why...
     
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    Mere gharwale pedhe phenk ke marenge mereko, woh bhi orange colour ke.
     
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  5. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Back then their was strictly no requirement of full auto, people hate full auto ..

    OFB came up with various variants, including Kalantak carbine which was turned down due to its inaccuracy at 300ms range and bigger recoil compare to 9mm, Similarly the full auto came into the era when full auto was hated in regular army.

    In 2019, Army now floating RFI for kalantak sort of carbine and full auto is now a thing.

     
  6. Maddy_9UY

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    If you zoom in the picture just above the front sight, they have a picture of Gorza AK bullpup. ​
     
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  7. Johny_Baba

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    Yeah,Groza is there.

    A little info about Groza programme,btw

    Groza was not a simple bullpup version of AKS-74U rather russian 'counterpart' of SOPMOD kit on M4 carbine,as it was supposed to be a modular platform having detachable barrels and attachments
    so in essense,it was an assault rifle (standard configuration with standard barrel),medium range precision weapon (standard configuration + scope),carbine (shorter barreled config) and grenadier's weapon (a special underbarrel grenade launcher that also acts as trigger for firearm itself,and yes it's detachable on this weapon)

    different configurations of Groza
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    This is how full kit of Groza looked like in its briefcase

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    they also had plans to put up further attachments like different optics,lights,lasers on it but very limited success of this firearm/platform forced them to put it on shelf.

    >So in a way i wonder if this Bullpup INSAS is a similar development or what,as rails allow it to put countless types of attachments on it to make it a 'multipurpose' firearm,also it needs to be looked if it also allows for different barrel configurations and so.
     
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    The butt of it from the magazine well back looks of a poor quality and poor but the rest of it looks promising enough. What I am particularly happy to see is they are finally getting to grips with and focusing on the little details- iron sights, quality P-rails, quality hand guard and a foregrip.


    Come on guys, what do you want? Them to try or not? Can’t become Ferrari overnight, have to start out making Altos.
     
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    CRPF BULGARIAN ARSENAL AR-M5F41
     
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    New IWI Tavor X95 Flattop Manipur Police CDO This variant was first inducted in Special Frontier Force ( SFF )
     
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    Does anyone know, what is the standard gun sling in IA? three point?
     
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    And thats how you lose an eye and become a pirate! Aaarrrrrr!
     
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    Tamil Nadu Police Commando Force received new IWI X95-S SMG First unit in India to use 9mm variant of X95 with integrated suppressor and 11 inch barrel. Regular X95 - 13 inch C TAR 21 - 15 inch TAR 21 - 18.1 inch * Note - Zittara never entered production.
     
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    Gujarat Police Chetak Commando SIG SAUER 556 SWAT 5.56×45mm NATO
     
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    cobra commando Tharki regiment Veteran Member Senior Member

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    JVPC likely to be inducted by SPG.
     
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