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do the indian army soldiers pay much time training with pistols/revolvers or is their primary focus on insas while training?
 

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do the indian army soldiers pay much time training with pistols/revolvers or is their primary focus on insas while training?
What I think the army trains equally in all factor,,,,
Better to ask @Kunal Biswas dada please reply to this.......
 
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do the indian army soldiers pay much time training with pistols/revolvers or is their primary focus on insas while training?
Why Side Arm is GIven:-
In a military setting, machine pistols are issued as personal defense side arms to paratroopers, artillery crews, helicopter crews or tank crews. Government security service bodyguards for VIPs and heads of state who need a weapon that can be concealed under clothing may have a fully automatic machine pistol as a side arm.
Historically in western armies, and in many contemporary armies, the issue of a side arm in the form of a service pistol is a clear sign of authority and is the mark of a commissioned officer or senior NCO. In the protocol of courtesy, the surrender of a commander's side arm is the final act in the general surrender of a unit. If no ill will is meant, and a strict interpretation of military courtesy is applied, a surrendering commander may be allowed to keep his side arm in order to exercise his right of command over his men. Similarly, many commanders on a local level have been anecdotally cited as having used the threat of their side arms to motivate troops, to varied effect
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I saw in wikipidia that FN 2000 and FN five sevens are produced by our IOFB. Is it true @Kunal Biswas dada?????
Where did wiki mentioned that, certainly not in the FN 2000 or FN five seven page.
 
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Where did wiki mentioned that, certainly not in the FN 2000 or FN five seven page.
In the Special Protection group page it is clearly mentioned that all the equipment are manufactured indigenously under liscence
"Equipment

FN Herstal F2000[2]
FN Herstal Five-seven[2][3]
FN Herstal P90[2][3][4]
All the equipment for the SPG is manufactured indigenously (under license) by the Indian Ordnance Factories controlled by the Ordnance Factories Board, Ministry of Defence, Government of India. "
Special Protection Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia check that out.
 

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FN F2000:-

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The FN F2000 is a 5.56×45mm NATO bullpup assault rifle, designed by FN Herstal in Belgium.[5] The F2000 made its debut in March 2001 at the IDEX defence exhibition held in Abu Dhabi, in the United Arab Emirates.
Design details

The F2000 is a modular weapon system; its principal component is a compact 5.56×45mm NATO-caliber assault rifle configured in a bullpup layout. The F2000 is a selective fire weapon operating from a closed bolt.
The rifle consists of two main assemblies: the barreled receiver group and the frame, coupled together by means of an axis pin located above the trigger guard. The barrel group has an integral MIL-STD-1913 Picatinny rail used to mount optical sights. The frame or lower receiver contains the trigger group, the bolt and bolt carrier assembly, return mechanism and magazine well. A removable handguard is installed in front of the trigger which completes and encloses the trigger guard.
[edit]Features
The F2000 is a gas operated, fully automatic and ambidextrous bullpup rifle. Both the safety system and trigger mechanism were adopted from the P90 personal defense weapon; the selector toggle is a rotating disc located below the trigger. The fire selector doubles as the weapon's manual safety and secures the firearm against accidental discharge (the selector/safety disc has 3 settings: "S"—safe, "1"—semi-automatic mode, "A"—fully automatic fire). The "safe" setting disables the trigger. The hammers, group pins, and springs are steel while all other components are nylon injection molding. The shell of the rifle is made of composite materials.
The F2000 is fed from standard NATO box magazines (STANAG 4179) with a 30-round cartridge capacity using 5.56×45mm ammunition. The magazine catch/release button is installed symmetrically in the pistol grip, in front of the magazine; the magazine catch is operated by an oversized actuator used when wearing NBC gloves. The F2000 is not configured from the factory to have a drop-free magazine system due to the friction from the removable dust gaskets. The magazine needs to be pulled out manually.
The rifle does not have a hold-open device; the bolt does not stay back after the last round is fired. The cocking handle is placed on the left side of the receiver, just above the handguard, and can be operated by left-handed shooters. There are no access points for the possible ingress of dirt or debris; the cocking handle slot is sealed.
The weapon's primary sight is a telescopic sight with a fixed 1.6× magnification (the reticle also enables use in low-light conditions) contained in a plastic housing above the receiver (mounted on the MIL-STD-1913 rail), the secondary sight is a non-adjustable fixed notch and front blade, molded into the optical sight housing cover. The sight cover and sight module can be quickly removed to reveal the Picatinny rail.
The rifle's chromed hammer-forged steel barrel is stated to retain accuracy after 20,000 normal (non-sustained) rounds. The barrel also features a flash suppressor with an angled cut at the tip which directs the muzzle blast upward, compensating for muzzle rise. The F2000 has an optional bayonet lug mounted near the muzzle, and an adjustable gas regulator with two settings: "normal" for standard ammunition meeting NATO specifications, and "adverse"—used to send an increased volume of gas into the system to ensure proper functioning when fouled or when using low pressure ammunition.
Operating mechanism
This selective fire weapon is a gas-operated design utilizing a short-stroke piston system driven by propellant gases diverted into the gas cylinder through a port in the barrel; it fires from a closed bolt position. The weapon is locked with a rotating bolt which features 6 radial locking lugs, a spring-powered extractor and ejector. The chamber, bolt, and ejector mechanism can be accessed by flipping up a hinged inspection cover in the receiver, behind the optical sight housing.


Peruvian Marines armed with standard configuration F2000s in July 2010.
The F2000 uses a unique ejection system, ejecting spent cartridge casings forward and to the right side of the weapon—through a tube running above the barrel. This method of ejection provides for fully ambidextrous operation; the rifle can be used without any modification by both right and left-handed shooters. This ejection pattern was achieved by using a swiveling polymer tray, which intercepts the empty casing from the bolt face immediately after disengaging from the extractor. As the empty casing is extracted it is held while the rocker assembly tilts to lift it above and clear of the feed path as the next round is stripped from the magazine by the bolt head. The casing is fed into the tray located in a cavity in the receiver wall, which then pivots the cartridge case and directs it into a chute (above the barrel); the case is discarded from the tilting tray by being impacted by a pin on the moving bolt carrier upon its forward return. Only when the ejection tube contains more than five cases is the first of them ejected forward through a port just behind and to the right of the muzzle.
This system is patent protected (patent number 5675924 dated 14 October 1997 by Ren̩ Predazzer[6] and patent 6389725 from February 25, 2000, author РCharles Denuit).[7] The ambidexterity provided by forward ejection is its most obvious benefit, and removes many of the tactical and user difficulties (such as lack of ambidexterity, and gas and debris released in close proximity to the shooter's face) that bullpup designs usually create.
[edit]Grenade launcher
One of the modules developed for the F2000 system is a proprietary lightweight 40 mm under-slung GL1 grenade launcher (empty weight—1 kg) that uses standard low-velocity 40×46mm grenades.[8] The launcher is a single-shot breech-loaded pump-action weapon with a barrel that slides forward for loading and unloading (like the M203 grenade launcher), locked by axial rotation of the barrel.
The grenade launcher's trigger is installed directly under the F2000's trigger so that it can be manipulated without removing the shooting hand from the rifle's pistol grip. The double-action trigger lets the operator "try again" if the grenade's percussion type primer doesn't ignite. The breech release button is found on the left side of the launcher body, like on the M203. The grenade launcher comes with a basic flip-up ladder sight, but it was intended to be used with a specially designed optoelectronic fire control system designated FCS, developed in cooperation with the Finnish company Noptel.
The aiming module is installed in place of the standard optical sight and becomes the weapon's primary sight when mounted, but its main purpose is to accurately determine and indicate the range of a grenade target. The module is powered by a 9 V battery pack, installed in the stock, behind the magazine well. The power pack is also intended to power any other tactical accessories or systems that could be introduced. The FCS integrates a low-power laser rangefinder (precise to within ± 1 m), a day-time aiming channel with an electronically projected reticle, a measured range display reading and a diode elevation adjustment indicator.
The fire control system calculates a firing solution manifested by the barrel's angle of elevation using target range information from the laser rangefinder (the rangefinder is activated by pushing a button on the pistol grip, below the trigger), corrected manually by the shooter through a push-button interface (add/subtract buttons) on the FCS top cover to take account for head or tail winds that could affect the desired range. The F2000 FCS also contains software with the ballistic properties of up to six types of 40 mm grenades and can be reprogrammed to take advantage of future munition improvements. Batteries for the FCS are located in the bottom of the buttstock.
After obtaining a range measurement, the distance to the target is displayed on a liquid crystal screen and the elevation diode flashes red. Once a correct elevation has been achieved by tilting the rifle, the diode changes color to green indicating the weapon is ready to fire.
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@arnabmit Yours Favorited,,,,,, FN Herstal F2000,,, just page up mate,,,,,
 
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Thanks... My favourite is & FN Five Seven

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@<a href="http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/member.php?u=12445" target="_blank">arnabmit</a> Yours Favorited,,,,,, FN Herstal F2000,,, just page up mate,,,,,
 

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Thanks... My favourite is & FN Five Seven

[video=youtube_share;IufZKXpiHSo]http://youtu.be/IufZKXpiHSo[/video]

[video=youtube_share;ohGsu4bhb04]http://youtu.be/ohGsu4bhb04[/video]

[video=youtube_share;o6JTSoJjKsQ]http://youtu.be/o6JTSoJjKsQ[/video]

[video=youtube_share;0RTJZI-UXNA]http://youtu.be/0RTJZI-UXNA[/video]
Will post all the FN small arms used by our SPG one by one mate,,, If you wish you can post also,,,
 

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FN Five-seven:-

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The FN Five-seven, trademarked as the Five-seveN, is a semi-automatic pistol designed and manufactured by FN Herstal in Belgium.[9] The pistol is named for its 5.7-mm (.224 in) bullet diameter, and the trademark capitalization style is intended to emphasize the manufacturer's initials—FN.[14]
The Five-seven pistol was developed in conjunction with the FN P90 personal defense weapon and the FN 5.7×28mm cartridge.[15] The P90 was introduced in 1990, and the Five-seven was introduced in 1998 as a pistol using the same 5.7×28mm ammunition.[7] Developed as a companion pistol to the P90, the Five-seven shares many of its design features: it is a lightweight polymer-based weapon with a large magazine capacity, ambidextrous controls, low recoil, and the ability to penetrate body armor when using certain cartridge types.[16]
Sales of the Five-seven were originally restricted by FN to military and law enforcement customers, but since 2004, the pistol has also been offered to civilian shooters for personal protection, target shooting, and similar uses.[17][18] Although offered only with sporting ammunition, the Five-seven's introduction to civilian shooters was met with vocal opposition from gun control organizations such as the Brady Campaign, and the pistol has been subject to ongoing controversy in the United States.[19][20]
The Five-seven is currently in service with military and police forces in over 40 nations, such as Canada, France, Greece, India, Poland, Spain, and the United States.[21] In the United States, the Five-seven is in use with numerous law enforcement agencies, including the U.S. Secret Service.[14][22] In the years since the pistol's introduction to the civilian market in the United States, it has also become increasingly popular with civilian shooters.
Design

The Five-seven is a semi-automatic delayed blowback pistol chambered for FN's 5.7×28mm ammunition.[9] The pistol appears hammerless, but it has a concealed hammer.[9] Polymer materials are used extensively in the pistol's design, and even the steel slide is encased in a polymer shell.[8][12] In addition to providing reduced weight and greater resistance to corrosion, this also prevents unwanted light reflection.[13][31] The slide's polymer shell gives the pistol the appearance of being constructed entirely of polymers, but the slide interior, barrel, trigger, springs, pins, and similar parts are all steel.[8][12] However, the pistol is unusually lightweight, weighing only 744 g (1.6 lb) with a loaded 20-round magazine.[13][24]
The Five-seven is a full-size pistol, having an overall length of 208 mm (8.2 in), a height of 137 mm (5.4 in), and a max width of 36 mm (1.4 in).[9][10] It has the same grip angle as the distinguished Browning Hi-Power and M1911 pistols.[32] Despite the considerable length of the pistol's 5.7×28mm ammunition, the grip is not particularly unwieldy—the distance from the trigger to the back of the grip measures 69.85 mm (2.75 in), which is identical to a U.S. Military issue M9 pistol chambered in 9×19mm Parabellum.[14][24] The Five-seven barrel is cold hammer-forged and chrome-lined, with a total length of 122 mm (4.8 in) and a rifled length of 94 mm (3.7 in).[9][18] The barrel has eight rifling grooves with a right-hand twist rate of 1:231 mm (1:9.1 in), and it weighs 113 g (0.25 lb).[9][12] It has a stated service life of 20,000 rounds[8] and the Five-seven is noted for being very accurate.[10][20][23]
Current models of the Five-seven are single-action, having a short and light trigger pull of 2 to 3 daN (4.4 to 6.6 lbF).[9] They have a Picatinny rail for mounting accessories, and a magazine safety mechanism that prevents the pistol from firing without a magazine inserted.[9] The grip texture on current pistols is extensively checkered for a superior hold, and each side of the slide has a series of narrow ridges at the rear to aid grasping.[18][23] The trigger and trigger guard surfaces also have grooves to reduce finger slip, and the trigger guard is elongated to ease firing while wearing gloves.[24] The Five-seven is currently offered in two different frame finishes (standard black or flat dark earth), and two different iron sight systems (adjustable sights or low profile fixed sights).
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5.7×28mm cartridges as used in the Five-seven. From left to right: SS195LF hollow point, SS196SR V-Max, and SS197SR V-Max.[23]
Particularly significant to the design of the Five-seven pistol is the small caliber, high velocity bottlenecked cartridge it uses.[24] The 5.7×28mm cartridge was created by FN Herstal in response to NATO requests for a replacement for the 9×19mm Parabellum cartridge, which is commonly used in pistols and submachine guns.[28] The 5.7×28mm cartridge weighs 6.0 g (93 grains)—roughly half as much as a typical 9×19mm cartridge—making extra ammunition less burdensome, or allowing more ammunition to be carried for the same weight.[13][34][35] Since the 5.7×28mm cartridge also has a relatively small diameter, an unusually high number of cartridges can be contained in a magazine.[36] The cartridge has a loud report and produces considerable muzzle flash, but it has roughly 30 percent less recoil than the 9×19mm cartridge, improving controllability.[20][24][35] Due to its high velocity, the 5.7×28mm also exhibits an exceptionally flat trajectory.[31]
One of the design intents for the standard 5.7×28mm cartridge type, the SS190, was that it have the ability to penetrate Kevlar protective vests—such as the NATO CRISAT vest—that will stop conventional pistol bullets.[35] Fired from the Five-seven, the 5.7×28mm SS190 has a muzzle velocity of roughly 650 m/s (2,130 ft/s) and is capable of penetrating the CRISAT vest at a range of 100 m (109 yd), or 48 layers of Kevlar material (roughly equivalent to two stacked Level II Kevlar vest panels) at a range of 50 m (55 yd).[27][34] It is also capable of penetrating a PASGT vest at a range of 300 m (328 yd) or a PASGT helmet at a range of 240 m (262 yd).[27] FN states an effective range of 50 m (55 yd) and a maximum range of 1,510 m (1,651 yd) for the 5.7×28mm cartridge when fired from the Five-seven pistol.[12]
In testing conducted by Passaic County, New Jersey Sheriff's Department, the 5.7×28mm SS190 penetrated to a depth of 27 cm (11 in) in bare ballistic gelatin, and a depth of 23 cm (9 in) in gelatin protected with a Kevlar vest.[8] In testing, the SS190 and similar 5.7×28mm projectiles consistently turn base over point ("tumble") as they pass through ballistic gelatin and other media, using the 21.6-mm (.85 in) projectile length[12] to create a larger wound cavity.[8][13][16] However, some are skeptical of the bullet's terminal performance, and it is a subject of debate among civilian shooters in the United States.[16]
The 5.7×28mm projectile potentially poses less risk of collateral damage than conventional pistol bullets, because the projectile design limits overpenetration, as well as risk of ricochet.[8][32][37] The lightweight projectile also poses less risk of collateral damage in the event of a miss, because it loses much of its kinetic energy after traveling only 400 m (437 yd), whereas a conventional pistol bullet such as the 9×19mm retains significant energy beyond 800 m (875 yd).[31] This range exceeds the engagement distances expected for the 5.7×28mm cartridge's intended applications, so the cartridge's limited energy at long range is not conversely considered to be disadvantageous.[31] Since the 5.7×28mm SS190 projectile does not rely on fragmentation or the expansion of a hollow-point bullet, the cartridge and pistol are considered suitable for military use under the Hague Convention of 1899, which prohibits the use of expanding bullets in warfare.[16]
Ballistic performance summary for various 5.7×28mm cartridges
SS190 SS195LF SS197SR EA Protector EA Varmintor EA S4
Projectile weight 2.0 g (31 gr) 1.8 g (28 gr) 2.6 g (40 gr) 2.6 g (40 gr) 2.3 g (36 gr)1.8 g (28 gr)
Muzzle velocity 650 m/s (2,130 ft/s) 625 m/s 520 m/s 610 m/s 640 m/s 770 m/s
Muzzle energy 424 J (313 ft-lb) 350 J (260 ft-lb) 350 J (260 ft-lb) 480 J (355 ft-lb) 480 J (355 ft-lb) 535 J (395 ft-lb)
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Now from the FN Herstal website:-
Combined with the 5.7x28mm ammunition, the FN Five-seveN® MK2 pistol is adapted to different types of close quarter defensive and training scenarios. Optimized to be used in any condition the operator may encounter.

Highly Accurate

The accuray and flat trajectory of the 5.7x28mm cartridge gives a high hit probability up to 50m.

Extremely low recoil results in quick and accurate firing.
High Capacity Magazine

The FN Five-seveN® MK2 pistol can accept up to 20 rounds in the magazine.
Extremely Light and Ergonomic

The light weight of the slide and barrel, made possible by the 5.7mm calibre, and the reduced weight of the cartridge make the loaded weapon much lighter than traditional handguns.

Well-balanced, with smooth contours and no protruding parts, the FN Five-seveN® MK2 pistol will instinctively be handled correctly and is extremely easy to use.
Fully Safe

The FN Five-seveN® MK2 pistol features an ambidextrous manual safety that blocks the trigger mechanism and avoids any accidental firing.
 

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In the Special Protection group page it is clearly mentioned that all the equipment are manufactured indigenously under liscence
"Equipment

FN Herstal F2000[2]
FN Herstal Five-seven[2][3]
FN Herstal P90[2][3][4]
All the equipment for the SPG is manufactured indigenously (under license) by the Indian Ordnance Factories controlled by the Ordnance Factories Board, Ministry of Defence, Government of India. "
Special Protection Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia check that out.
If its wiki..forget it...it could be edited by any one.Plus if India had obtained license to manufacture fn2000s then govt wouldn't had gone for Tavor series weapons for SF.Any way obtaining license for satisfying needs of just SPG is hard to digest and i soeesnt make any sense.
 

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If its wiki..forget it...it could be edited by any one.Plus if India had obtained license to manufacture fn2000s then govt wouldn't had gone for Tavor series weapons for SF.Any way obtaining license for satisfying needs of just SPG is hard to digest and i soeesnt make any sense.
Also they said Indian Army uses Beretta M9,, I posted on accordance only to find that Indian Army or SFs never used Beretta. This wiki sometimes really beeps me off.
 

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