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Sikh creation account.​

Sikhism was founded was Guru Nanak Dev, and is a syncretic offshoot of Hinduism. Inclusive though Hinduism is, Sikhism goes even further in that direction.

God in Sikhism is conceived as being Formless, Indescribable, timeless transcendent Being as described in Chhandogya Upa.

Sikh philosophy is derived directly from Upanishads, the originating works from which various philosophies sprang. Not surprisingly, Sikh creation account too parallels Hindu thoughts.
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Page 1035 of he Grantha.
For millions upon millions, countless years was spread darkness,
When existed neither earth nor heaven, but only the limitless Divine Word.

[In the "beginning" was Word of God only, without a second]

Then existed neither day or night, nor sun or moon;
As the Creator was absorbed in an unbroken trance [samadhi].
Existed then neither forms of creation, nor of speech; neither wind nor water.
[All was part of the Indescribable Transcendent God, Who does not have attributes]

Neither was creation or disappearance or transmigration.
Then were not continents, neither regions, the seven seas, nor rivers with water flowing.

[Every thing was in primordial state including matter, energy and souls]
Existed then neither heaven or the mortal world or the nether world;

Neither hell or heaven or time that destroys.

Hell and heaven, birth and death were then not--none arrived or departed.

[The whole cosmos being contained in the passive Brahmma during His night (spanning 4.32 billion years), nothing tangible or intangible existed, except in Him, Whose Word existed even though He Himself was passive during that period.]

Then were not Brahma, Vishnu or Shiva:

[This Brahma is Cosmic ideal as opposed to the Acosmic Absolute. Cosmic personal gods too were not there, only the Acosmic one and His Word were there]

None other than the Sole Lord was visible.

[This the ParaBrahmma, the Absolute]

Neither existed then female or male, or caste and birth--
None suffering and joy received.

Unknowable Himself, was He the source of all utterance; Himself the unknowable unmanifested.

[Chh Upa. describes the Absolute as unKnowable and unmanifested]

As it pleased Him, the world He created;
Without a supporting power the expanse He sustained. Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva He created and to maya-attachment gave increase.

(To a rare one was the Master's Word imparted.)
Himself He made His Ordinance operative and watched over it:
Creating continents, spheres and nether worlds, the hidden He made manifest.

Creating the universe Himself, He has remained unattached.
The compassionate Lord too has made the holy center [the human being].

[The Absolute is not exhausted by His creative effort. All is within Him still, part of His Cosmic body and soul]

Combining air, water, and fire, He created the citadel of the body.

The Creator fashioned the Nine Abodes [of sensation];
In the Tenth [the super-conscious mind] is lodged the Lord, unknowable, limitless.

The illimitable Lord in His unattributed state of void assumed might;
He, the infinite One, remaining detached:
Displaying his power, He himself from the void created inanimate things.
[Void refers to the uncreated world contained within Him, not the NOTHING or a singularity]
From the unattributed void were created air and water.
Raising creation, He dwells as monarch in the citadel of the body.
Lord! In the fire and water [of the body] exists Thy light;
In Thy [original] state of void was lodged [un-manifest] the power of creation.
***

In Sikhism the universe is eternal and immortal and vast.
P 276

There are crores and crores of galaxies and
solar systems in the universe. The
phenomenon of creation has occurred
so many times. But the
one Lord remains for ever and ever.

1 Crore= 10 Million
 

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This bears a very close and remarkable similarity with the Rig Veda.

Rig Veda Hymn 10.129. Song Of Creation.


1. THEN was not non-existent nor existent: there was no realm of air, no sky beyond it.
What covered in, and where? and what gave shelter? Was water there, unfathomed depth of water?

2 Death was not then, nor was there aught immortal: no sign was there, the day's and night's divider.
That One Thing, breathless, breathed by its own nature: apart from it was nothing whatsoever.

3 Darkness there was: at first concealed in darknew this All was indiscriminated chaos.
All that existed then was void and form less: by the great power of Warmth was born that Unit.

4 Thereafter rose Desire in the beginning, Desire, the primal seed and germ of Spirit.
Sages who searched with their heart's thought discovered the existent's kinship in the non-existent.

5 Transversely was their severing line extended: what was above it then, and what below it?
There were begetters, there were mighty forces, free action here and energy up yonder

6 Who verily knows and who can here declare it, whence it was born and whence comes this creation?
TheGods are later than this world's production. Who knows then whence it first came into being?

7 He, the first origin of this creation, whether he formed it all or did not form it,
Whose eye controls this world in highest heaven, he verily knows it, or perhaps he knows not.
 

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The lead article is incorrect that Sikhism is founded by Guru Nanak Dev. He in fact founded the Guru Gaddi. He authored some hymns of the Holy Book. The compilation of this was given the name "Pothi". The latter Gurus added and copied other great poets and Gurus and made it into book. Until the 10th Guru, additions were being made to the Holy Book.

It was the greatest of all leader s of Punjab Guru Gobind Singh that, he created the "Sikh". The British in 1919 gave it the term Sikhism. If there was no Guru Gobind Singh and his determination to fight injustice, there would not be a Sikh.
 

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The lead article is incorrect that Sikhism is founded by Guru Nanak Dev. He in fact founded the Guru Gaddi. He authored some hymns of the Holy Book. The compilation of this was given the name "Pothi". The latter Gurus added and copied other great poets and Gurus and made it into book. Until the 10th Guru, additions were being made to the Holy Book.

It was the greatest of all leader s of Punjab Guru Gobind Singh that, he created the "Sikh". The British in 1919 gave it the term Sikhism. If there was no Guru Gobind Singh and his determination to fight injustice, there would not be a Sikh.
In simple words Guru Nanak started this religion by denouncing social evils like caste system,inequality etc and taught honest living and helping out(seva) and Guru Gobind Singh further molded it into a fearless martial sect which didn't hesitate fighting injustice by sword.
 

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[In the "beginning" was Word of God only, without a second]

Then existed neither day or night, nor sun or moon;
As the Creator was absorbed in an unbroken trance [samadhi].
Existed then neither forms of creation, nor of speech; neither wind nor water.
[All was part of the Indescribable Transcendent God, Who does not have attributes]

Neither was creation or disappearance or transmigration.
Then were not continents, neither regions, the seven seas, nor rivers with water flowing.

Existed then neither heaven or the mortal world or the nether world;

Neither hell or heaven or time that destroys.

Hell and heaven, birth and death were then not--none arrived or departed.
Genesis 1

King James Version (KJV)


1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
 
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So much of religious stuff... DFI becoming so holy all of a sudden.
 

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Sikh creation account.​

Sikhism was founded was Guru Nanak Dev, and is a syncretic offshoot of Hinduism. Inclusive though Hinduism is, Sikhism goes even further in that direction.

God in Sikhism is conceived as being Formless, Indescribable, timeless transcendent Being as described in Chhandogya Upa.

Sikh philosophy is derived directly from Upanishads, the originating works from which various philosophies sprang. Not surprisingly, Sikh creation account too parallels Hindu thoughts.
***
Page 1035 of he Grantha.
For millions upon millions, countless years was spread darkness,
When existed neither earth nor heaven, but only the limitless Divine Word.

[In the "beginning" was Word of God only, without a second]

Then existed neither day or night, nor sun or moon;
As the Creator was absorbed in an unbroken trance [samadhi].
Existed then neither forms of creation, nor of speech; neither wind nor water.
[All was part of the Indescribable Transcendent God, Who does not have attributes]

Neither was creation or disappearance or transmigration.
Then were not continents, neither regions, the seven seas, nor rivers with water flowing.

[Every thing was in primordial state including matter, energy and souls]
Existed then neither heaven or the mortal world or the nether world;

Neither hell or heaven or time that destroys.

Hell and heaven, birth and death were then not--none arrived or departed.

[The whole cosmos being contained in the passive Brahmma during His night (spanning 4.32 billion years), nothing tangible or intangible existed, except in Him, Whose Word existed even though He Himself was passive during that period.]

Then were not Brahma, Vishnu or Shiva:

[This Brahma is Cosmic ideal as opposed to the Acosmic Absolute. Cosmic personal gods too were not there, only the Acosmic one and His Word were there]

None other than the Sole Lord was visible.

[This the ParaBrahmma, the Absolute]

Neither existed then female or male, or caste and birth--
None suffering and joy received.

Unknowable Himself, was He the source of all utterance; Himself the unknowable unmanifested.

[Chh Upa. describes the Absolute as unKnowable and unmanifested]

As it pleased Him, the world He created;
Without a supporting power the expanse He sustained. Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva He created and to maya-attachment gave increase.

(To a rare one was the Master's Word imparted.)
Himself He made His Ordinance operative and watched over it:
Creating continents, spheres and nether worlds, the hidden He made manifest.

Creating the universe Himself, He has remained unattached.
The compassionate Lord too has made the holy center [the human being].

[The Absolute is not exhausted by His creative effort. All is within Him still, part of His Cosmic body and soul]

Combining air, water, and fire, He created the citadel of the body.

The Creator fashioned the Nine Abodes [of sensation];
In the Tenth [the super-conscious mind] is lodged the Lord, unknowable, limitless.

The illimitable Lord in His unattributed state of void assumed might;
He, the infinite One, remaining detached:
Displaying his power, He himself from the void created inanimate things.
[Void refers to the uncreated world contained within Him, not the NOTHING or a singularity]
From the unattributed void were created air and water.
Raising creation, He dwells as monarch in the citadel of the body.
Lord! In the fire and water [of the body] exists Thy light;
In Thy [original] state of void was lodged [un-manifest] the power of creation.
***

In Sikhism the universe is eternal and immortal and vast.
P 276

There are crores and crores of galaxies and
solar systems in the universe. The
phenomenon of creation has occurred
so many times. But the
one Lord remains for ever and ever.

1 Crore= 10 Million
@GPM respect man.But is it true i been asked for source for religious thread ? How can there be a source for RELIGION ? @nrj
 
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