Discussion in 'Indian Army' started by A.V., Mar 11, 2009.
Manning MMG post at siachen ..
See How our Brave soldiers are getting Drinking Water at Siachen Glacier
respect to them .. cant we airdrop them drinking water once a week . This looks so depressing .
I'm going to walk on the thin limb here, and admit that government or our armed forces are not equipping our jawans properly. They shouldn't be slipping on ice if they had proper spiked boots, the water should not be collected in gasoline cans instead should be in ice coolers or insulated backpacks so they don't have to carry those big gasoline cans on shoulders. They should have proper jack hammers, handheld drilling machines or chainsaws to cut ice. Someone is not thinking right somewhere and I think it's not the soldiers deployed on glacier it's those stubborn high ranking officers down bottom in there comfortable warm barracks.
Someone should or I will try to send this to PMO ASAP. It is not acceptable as technology is available to drill for water instead of the tools they were using.
Plzzz do that but expect no response from is twitter handle better share it to Arnab s republic twitter handle if he share then sure PMO will see it .. This video might been a old one too we don't know things have improved but i will be little sceptical if they say things might have changed ....
I have a friend retired from Army and his son served on the posting at Siachen besides my brother in law and sister visited the troops. I will find out from them and take next step.
Soldiers At High Altitudes Can Now Feel Warm, Combat Frostbites
Soldiers sometimes have to be at high altitude with sub-zero temperatures for prolonged periods of time. To keep warm, they use a variety of strategies. This could include warm clothing, using heat packs, or electric blankets. But, they do not provide comprehensive solutions.
While warm clothes do prevent loss of body heat, they fail to generate any heat on their own, hot water bottles fail to retain the heat for long durations and electric heating pads or blankets require electric supply which has a risk of causing skin burn and thus making them unfit for prolonged use.
Now, scientists at the Defense Laboratory Jodhpur (DLJ), and the Indian Institute of Technology-Jodhpur (IITJ) have designed a new combination of previously known materials that could help save soldiers and those living in cold regions from adverse events such as frostbite and hypothermia.
The scientists, have made this new combo-material using sodium acetate trihydrate and ethylene glycol that can retain significant amount of heat for long . The combo-material is a type of ‘phase change material’, that have been previously used for making thermal management devices for regulating human body temperature, reducing temperature fluctuations inside buildings, and for storing solar energy.
Sodium acetate trihydrate is known to make efficient heat packs. But, it has several disadvantages. For example, it is hard and lumped, with sharp edges that makes it prone to puncture or damage during use. Also, it provides heat at nearly 57 degree Celsius as opposed to a temperature of 40degree Celsius, which is required to manage frostbites.
The scientists at DLJ and IITJ have now found that it can be made more flexible and its heat retention time could be increased by about 10% by adding ethylene glycol and thus made suitable for thermal therapeutic applications like for frostbites.
The scientists, Ambesh Dixit, Rohitash Kumar, SumitaVyas, and Ravindra Kumar have published their results in a recent issue of science journal Nature’s Scientific Reports.
“Novel ethylene glycol and aqueous sodium acetate trihydrate composite phase change materials with enhanced thermo-physical properties have been designed and developed. It is a promising material for applications such as body warming, building heating under adverse conditions and seasonal solar thermal energy storage”, they said in their report.
Mohammed Farid, professor at the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering, University of Auckland, New Zealand, who is not connected to the study but works with similar materials agrees that, “scientists have improved the performance of the materialthrough modifications. It will also make it more comfortable to use”, he says. (India Science Wire)
Army jawan posted in Kargil and Siachen to get indigenous equipment soon
New Delhi: Very soon Army personal deployed above 12000 feet from the sea level will be provided with Indigenous equipment which so far has been imported.
Army posts in Siachen, Kargil and many more such places are above 12000 feet where they have to face extreme cold weather conditions. The government has been planning to purchase indigenous products from very long time. The indeginisation programme taken up by the ministry and the Army has been able to save money to the tune of Rs 250 to 300 crore per Annam to the government exchequer.
Generally an Army personal are given special clothing above 9000 feet height but for the Army personnel posted at 12000 feet and above these clothing are necessary as they are life saving. Siachen, Nathu La, Bumla, East Laddakh and Kargil are some of areas where negotiating with the prevailing weather condition without these clothing and equipments are impossible.
Army sources told One India that the government has to cough up Rs 600 to 800 crore on purchase of these special clothing and equipments so the process of Indigenisation was started by the government as both the government as well as the Army wanted to do this.
The Army has adopted the revenue model for purchasing these cloths and equipments as these things are already being used by the Army. As per sources Thermal Insole, snow goggle, rucksack and face mask have already been Indegenised and now Extreme Cold Weather Clothing System (ECWCS) has to be Indegenised which was earlier made of animal fur that the news company is offering is made up of synthetic stuff. In two-three month's time they will be ready for the use of the Armed forces.
Sources informed that for indgenisation of these products 23 firms participated in it with their products and in two days time reports will be out that which product has passed the required test, which has failed and why has any company failed the test? Every thing will be told to them.
Army sources also informed that there are many other products that has to be indigenised and the Army is working on it. They are Modular Glovs, Tugger Shoes, Multi-Purpose Boot, Sleeping Bag, Cramp On and Carabina. To make these things indegenous system is being made transparent and soon every equipment will be indegenous. However, some other sources informed that some of the equipment are so specialised that making them by Indian companies will definitely take time before it is approved from the uses of Army.
I tell you the 2 most important and vital thing required in sachin and can don't freezes.
1. Xxx rum
The biggest enemy is the environment. And average weight loss is 15 kg after 6 month of deployment.
About time. Cold weather apparel are low hanging fruit that should have been made in India starting a long while back. It ain't rocket science. But of course no kickbacks to babus from Swiss or wherever the fuck we used to get them from before.
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