Shooting incident at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newton, USA

[Virendra]

Why are Americans making this about mental health rather than gun control ?

It is about both actually
@LETHALFORCEThere is a lot of confusion in what exactly an assault rifle is, because of various pro and anti gun lobbies forwarding their own definitions of 'assault rifle' or 'assault weapon' etc.

 

[Virendra]

It is a good motive for such an heinous act. Even if he was caught alive if
he was found mentally ill her would not be excecuted probably institutionalized.
John Hinkley Jr who shot President Reagan in 1982 and killed 1-2 other people is still
alive.

Who other than a mentally ill person would fire on small kids without a reason?

 

[Singh]

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Adam Lanza 3rd from right.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

@ VIRENDRA

There should be no confusion simply stated Assault rifles are Assault weapons.

An assault weapon is an automatic or semiautomatic military firearms with a cartridge.

 

[Virendra]

You're giving the US military definition, besides a semiautomatic weapon cannot "assault" per say.

 

[s002wjh]

Bushmaster Assault Rifle - Oklahoma City Firearms | Examiner.com

Bushmaster Assault Rifle

Before Bushmaster made AR-15 clones they produced a rifle marked "Bushmaster Assault Rifle". While using a number of AR-15 type minor parts this rifle is of a much different design. The lower receiver appears to be milled from an aluminum alloy while the upper receiver is stamped steel with the rear sight base and bolt guide rails welded into place. This model has a folding stock but I've examined another that has a fixed wooden stock. Both rifles use black painted wood forearms.

Disassembly is unique. A U shaped metal clip on top of the rifle directly in front of the bolt is held in place by and retains the recoil spring that surrounds the gas piston. Pressing this clip slightly forward against the spring pressure and lifting it out of the rifle allows the gas piston that's attached to the bolt carrier in much the same manner as in the AK 47 to be retracted from it's housing. Push the rear takedown pin to the left and pivot the upper receiver up. Pull the charging handle to the rear until it stops and unscrew it from the bolt carrier. The bolt, bolt carrier, and gas piston assembly can now be removed from the back of the upper receiver.

The mechanism appears to borrow from the AR-15, AK 47 and the AR-180 and functions reliably. The front sight adjusts for elevation in the same manner as any AR-15 and the rear sight appears to be an early AR-15 two position aperture that is click adjustable for windage by a knob that can be turned with the fingers.

The barrel seems to be a 1 in 12" twist with an early AR-15 three prong flash suppressor and a clamp on bayonet lug. Accuracy is as good as any rack grade 5.56mm as long as light bullets are used because of the barrel's twist rate.

Handling is virtually the same as an AR-15. The weight is similar as is overall length and placement of controls with the exception of the charging handle and the location on the Bushmaster is an improvement. The buttstock locks in the extended position but does not when folded.

Overall it's an interesting design.

lol sure i can say a marlin 22 semi-auto rifle is assault rifle too. obiviouslly your understanding of ar15 vs m16/m4 is different. m16/m4 is an assult rilfe because it can fire burst/full auto, while ar15 is a semi-auto rilfe. thats the biggest difference, and why its label as semi-auto rifle.

often media is clueless regarding whats assault rifle or not, some even lable a semi as machinegun. don't be full by it, there is big difference.

again defination of assault rifle from different source. bushmaster cannot fire full-auto

Assault rifle - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Military firearm that is chambered for ammunition of reduced size or propellant charge and has the capacity to switch between semiautomatic and fully automatic fire

 

[LETHALFORCE]

There are many versions of AR-15's the Bushmaster without a doubt is an assault
rifle that can penetrate 8inches+ concrete wall.

 

[s002wjh]

more here

Let Us Review the Definition of “Assault Rifle” | Shall Not Be Questioned

A rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use.
don't get confuse with assault weapon vs assault rifle. current defination of assault weapon include ar15, but assault rifle does not

 

[s002wjh]

There are many versions of AR-15's the Bushmaster without a doubt is an assault
rifle that can penetrate 8inches+ concrete wall.

yes there are many version. only full-auto lable as assault rifle. for civilian use its semi-auto rifle. and NO 223/5.56 cannot penetrate 8+inch concrete wall, the 223 is a 20 caliber cartridge, does not have enough kinectic energy to penetrate that much contrete.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

AK47 vs AR-15 vs Cinderblock Wall - YouTube

 

[Virendra]

I haven't heard anywhere of penetration power to be a factor in technical definition of "assault" in a weapon.
Sniping Rifles can do the same .. like the Beretta M107

 

[s002wjh]

concrete i mean, unless its steel tip, the 223 doesnt have much penetration. many hunter cartridge is more powerful than 223/5.56

 

[LETHALFORCE]

reposting video

AK47 vs AR-15 vs Cinderblock Wall - YouTube

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I have friends who have shot down fairrly large trees with AR-15's.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Cutting Down Trees With My AR-15 - YouTube

 

[s002wjh]

AK47 vs AR-15 vs Cinderblock Wall - YouTube

you might want to check the defination between cinderblock vs concrete wall. cinderblock wall is typically hollow inside, concrete is harder/solid. the bullet weight of avg 223 is 55g, muzzle speed around 3100ft/s, plug in ½ mv² , it doesn't have the weight/engergy to penetrate a concrete wall 8+ inch. its simple math

 

[s002wjh]

Cutting Down Trees With My AR-15 - YouTube

yea wood is not concrete, if i fire 1000rd at trees, ill will cut it down eventually. plug in ½ mv² you know your answer

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I don't want to get into this definition nonsense Cinder blocks are made of Concrete.
AK-47 has been reported by Russians to penetrate a foot of concrete?

 

[s002wjh]

I don't want to get into this definition nonsense Cinder blocks are made of Concrete.
AK-47 has been reported by Russians to penetrate a foot of concrete?

like i said, its math/physic, a 22 caliber bullet simply don't have the energy to penetrate a solid concrete wall 8+inch. if you notice in many war time area, the bullet can be digup from the wall, few inchs. the 223 has about 1700J. also most gun range are has concrete post etc at the end, less than 8 inch. if 223 can penetrate that, then it can be use as armor vehicle round, since most armor carrier are quarter/half inch thick of steel.

also has any hunter why 223 is not used in larger game, they will said its small caliber don't have enough energy, hence why most hunter use 308

anyway its not defination of assault rifle. 223 is still a 22 caliber intent for weight less than 180lbs hunting

 

[Virendra]

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