Shame: Pakistan again in match fixing quagmire

[Zaki]

'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief

"I don't think [the case] has any evidence at all," said Parry. "Unless the News of the World placed a bet - which would be highly unlikely because in so doing they would have carried out a criminal act - then there doesn't appear to be any betting activity at all associated with these particular allegations. It places the ball, to pardon the pun, squarely back into the hands of the cricket authorities."

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'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief | Cricket News | England v Pakistan 2010 | Cricinfo.com

 

[Zaki]

Scotland Yard dropped all charges against Kamran Akmal....

BREAKING NEWS: SCOTLAND YARD INVESTIGATION :KEEPER KAMRAN AKMAL HAS DECLARED CLEAR

 

[Daredevil]

As far as cricket goes, lets not forget that the situation wasn't all that different for the Indian national team until a decade ago (before economic opportunity started emerging). Corruption, match fixing, bribes, rigging bets... all of this was very much part of the Indian cricketing culture as it was for Pakistan. Also let's be cognizant of the fact that the whole sordid betting industry in question is based in India, run by Indians, for other Indians. The Pakistani players and shady middlemen are nothing more than peons. The faulty deduction of equating poor behavior to being representative of an entire nation and culture can also be applied to India, a society and country which also has a long history of oppressive corruption.

But here too we're digressing.

Totally disagree with your point. Agree that India and Pakistan were in same position a decade ago as far as match-fixing is concerned. But the approach that the respective boards took is diametrically opposite and you can see the results. BCCI has effectively banned the people involved in match-fixing for life and they were never seen back again in cricket. On the other hand, Pakistan has banned some but every body is back in cricket in one or the other position. Salim Malik who was banned for life is the head coach of Pakistan cricket academy.

Betting industry might be run by the Indians for the Indians but that doesn't give a free ticket to Pakistani cricketers to indulge in match fixing. On the same note, even Indian players are accessible to the betting industry but are any Indian players involved??-unlikely. Also, despite numerous allegation of match fixing in this decade against the Pakistani players they were banned/fined for name sake and allowed back to play. If Pakistani cricket board is not disciplined and incompetent how can one expect that its players will be disciplined and honest. And the rot for all these ills lies in the society. The corrupt cricketers represent a corrupt nation and corrupt polity. "Yada Raja thadha Praja"

 

[Daredevil]

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'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief | Cricket News | England v Pakistan 2010 | Cricinfo.com

This is nothing but hiding behind technicalities. It is clear from the evidence that he fixed the match and no-balls were bowled as promised by him.

 

[sandeepdg]

That guy Majeed said to the The News of the World that most of the players in the team are interested in making easy money, booze and women, they hardly give a damn about cricket and very few players are true to the game !!

 

[SHASH2K2]

Pak sees a 'conspiracy' as 3 more held in UK


Pakistan team
LONDON/ISLAMABAD: The Pakistan establishment appeared to be closing ranks behind its tainted cricketers even as three fresh arrests were made in the UK in connection with the spot-fixing scandal.

Meanwhile, the three players at the centre of the controversy were summoned to London from Somerset, where the team is practising, to meet PCB officials and the High Commissioner.

British customs officials said they had arrested three people as part of a probe into the money-laundering angle. Some reports said among those detained was Mazhar Majeed, the alleged fixer arrested earlier and bailed out on Monday.

It is also learnt that the cash found by Scotland Yard from Salman Butt's room amounted to £50,000. Butt reportedly claimed the money was his sister's trousseau.

Pakistan's interior minister Rehman Malik said there have been conspiracies against the team in the past and it was necessary to determine whether the latest allegations were a bid to defame the country. However, the Lahore HC has summoned seven cricketers on September 7 to face treason charges.

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I can only have sympathy to those ostriches .

 

[Yusuf]

Some diplomacy and some blackmail might be behind the sudden lack of evidence. Cricket will suffer because of this. We first had no one touring pak for terror reasons, now no country will invite pak to play in their country because of fixing, either way pak cricket will be finished if there is no action on this blatant fixing. But hiding behind technicality is the forte of pak, be it terror, flood or cricket.

 

[Quickgun Murugan]

Well if this video evidence is not sufficient to nail down asif and amir, I will have absolutely no confidence that any match-fixers can ever be caught red-handed.

Hansie cronje, Azaruddin, Jadeja, Mongia were punished on mere phone conversation record. This is video evidence we are talking about. There should be some justice.

 

[Zaki]

Some diplomacy and some blackmail might be behind the sudden lack of evidence. Cricket will suffer because of this. We first had no one touring pak for terror reasons, now no country will invite pak to play in their country because of fixing, either way pak cricket will be finished if there is no action on this blatant fixing. But hiding behind technicality is the forte of pak, be it terror, flood or cricket.

Unfortunately you have no idea of how the UK's Judicial system works. At the moment these are only the allegations as the concrete evidence is still out of the spot. First question is, if the video was recorded before the match? and that question is still unresolved as News of the week is yet to prove this question before the court.

The law does not work based on allegations and I see the case being very weak and despite the fact I strongly condemn the players and very angry with them still believe they will get away with it.... due to lack of evidences. This video could only had value if they had presented before the court or some higher authority before the match was actually taken place. Now its a different scenario as it can be considered as the video was shot after the match.

Anything is possible for now but i guess despite the fact I consider them culprits........ they will still be cleared by the Judicial courts as the concrete evidence is still missing

 

[Zaki]

Well if this video evidence is not sufficient to nail down asif and amir, I will have absolutely no confidence that any match-fixers can ever be caught red-handed.

Hansie cronje, Azaruddin, Jadeja, Mongia were punished on mere phone conversation record. This is video evidence we are talking about. There should be some justice.

Video evidences are not considered as concrete evidences but merely supporting evidences. Even if the burglar is robbing off the shop and clearly shown in the CCTV footage.... sometimes the court set him free due to lack of evidences
Welcome to UK!

 

[Quickgun Murugan]

Video evidences are not considered as concrete evidences but merely supporting evidences. Even if the burglar is robbing off the shop and clearly shown in the CCTV footage.... sometimes the court set him free due to lack of evidences
Welcome to UK!

Well, the damage has already been done. The damage is of Pakistan's cricket reputation and there is no cementing that back. Everyone knows, scotland yard doesn't get involved in "faltoo" cases. Ramiz Raja, Aamir Sohail, Sharyar Khan, Michel Holding are some of veterans who agree that what they see is definitely compelling evidence.

Now, no one expects UK court to act against them, its a matter of time before they are acquitted. Its all for ICC and PCB to act.

Asif's ex- girl friend comes out and says asif is involved in match-fixing. There will be no proof eventually for that too. But, reputation for Asif in world eyes is in the gutter.

 

[Yusuf]

Zak what bout the money recovered from their rooms??

 

[Rage]

The Pakistanis think they can do all the sh!t in the world and get off scot free.

When they're impugned for it, it's a 'conspiracy' ? Gimme a fckin break.

I can understand the Indian players thievin' for women on a cricket trip. Ain't we a bunch of secular freaks?

But what about all the charity and morals of the rigidly zealous players of this Islamic nation? Gone down the couz?

I'll tell you what, Pakisthan. Accept that your players are a bunch of nitwits. That they play less, and scheme more. That they b6tch and backbite like little women, when they're not. And that they're a bunch of spoiled brats, with big egos and an inflated mouth to match, but not enough in the way of cricketing talent.

 

[SHASH2K2]

Zak what bout the money recovered from their rooms??

You should know that it belong to his sister so case is closed and they are innocent. UK is doing it to please India and humiliate pakistan .
:emot19::dont20tell:

 

[smartindian]

Video evidences are not considered as concrete evidences but merely supporting evidences. Even if the burglar is robbing off the shop and clearly shown in the CCTV footage.... sometimes the court set him free due to lack of evidences
Welcome to UK!

this evidence are enough for icc to take action against paki players. now match fixing not just a matter related to paki cricket.

 

[Zaki]

Well, the damage has already been done. The damage is of Pakistan's cricket reputation and there is no cementing that back. Everyone knows, scotland yard doesn't get involved in "faltoo" cases. Ramiz Raja, Aamir Sohail, Sharyar Khan, Michel Holding are some of veterans who agree that what they see is definitely compelling evidence.

Now, no one expects UK court to act against them, its a matter of time before they are acquitted. Its all for ICC and PCB to act.

Asif's ex- girl friend comes out and says asif is involved in match-fixing. There will be no proof eventually for that too. But, reputation for Asif in world eyes is in the gutter.

agreed, the reputation of these players has been hit hard but if the Scotland yard drops all the charges, they will be able to play again. There will be no action from both ICC and PCB if Scotland yard clears them.
Agreed that the damage has already been done and I personally do not want to see them playing if they are involved even 0.1%

 

[Zaki]

Zak what bout the money recovered from their rooms??

Well Salman Butt said it is his personal money for her sister's wedding and he has the proof of his money. So News of the week will have to prove in the court if its a same money or Salman's personal wealth. Thats what is going to be discussed in the court room.... lets await for the proceedings first

 

[Zaki]

You should know that it belong to his sister so case is closed and they are innocent. UK is doing it to please India and humiliate pakistan .
:emot19::dont20tell:

No need to rant, the court is there to distinguish between truth & false

 

[The Messiah]

Well Salman Butt said it is his personal money for her sister's wedding and he has the proof of his money. So News of the week will have to prove in the court if its a same money or Salman's personal wealth. Thats what is going to be discussed in the court room.... lets await for the proceedings first

lmao :emot15:

who roams around with sisters wedding money in briefcase

 

[The Messiah]

You should know that it belong to his sister so case is closed and they are innocent. UK is doing it to please India and humiliate pakistan .
:emot19::dont20tell:

RAW agents planted money in there hotel room and India paid that bookie and notw to defame pak.

All pak players are houlier than thou =xy