Seychelles invites China to set up anti-piracy base!

[bhramos]

The Seychelles on Friday invited Beijing to set up a military base on the archipelago to beef up the fight against piracy there, Foreign Affairs Minister Jean-Paul Adam said.

The declaration comes as Liang Guanglie makes the first-ever visit by a Chinese defence minister to the Indian Ocean island state.

"We have invited the Chinese government to set up a military presence on Mahe to fight the pirate attacks that the Seychelles face on a regular basis," Adam said.

"For the time being China is studying this possibility because she has economic interests in the region and Beijing is also involved in the fight against piracy," he explained.

General Liang, who arrived in Victoria on Thursday with a 40-strong delegation, had been invited in October by Seychelles President James Michel, when he was on a visit to China.

The two countries signed a military cooperation agreement in 2004 that has enabled some 50 Seychelles soldiers to be trained in China. They renewed their agreement on Friday but without making public the new details.

If the Chinese military base goes ahead, "it won't be the first foreign military presence here because the Americans already have a small drone base here that they use in the fight against piracy," Adam said.

After warships deployed starting 2008 in the Gulf of Aden to thwart attacks on vessels, Somali pirates enlarged their field of operations into the Indian Ocean, including towards the Seychelles.

With 115 islands scattered over an area of 1.4 million square kilometres (540,000 square miles), a population of 85,000 and an army of just 500, the archipelago has been asking for foreign assistance.

Liang flew in from the Ugandan capital Kampala, where, according to Ugandan government sources, he promised $2.3 million in military aid, including support to troops in the African Union force in Somalia.

Piracy has flourished off war-torn Somalia, outwitting international efforts -- including constant patrols by warships and tough sentencing of the pirates they capture.

Seychelles invites China to set up anti-piracy base | Radio Netherlands Worldwide

 

[KS]

I don't care. India will fight off all the Chinese single handedly.. We need to be a NAM following nation...and we don't need any alliances.

 

[cir]

China should accept the invitation with gratitude。

2 things：

1、build a small port with allowance for possible future expansion
2、create a small adjoining air strip

Chinese engineers can start the survey now, followed by workers， both flew-ins and the locals， to construct the onshore facilities required. All should be done within a year.

Then send over 2 Type 056 frigates, few auxiliary ships plus several light aircrafts and UAVs.

The small three-ship fleet currently patrolling the Gulf of Aden can also make use of the base for their supplies and recreational needs。

 

[KS]

China should accept the invitation with gratitude。

2 things：

1、build a small port with allowance for possible future expansion
2、create a small adjoining air strip

Chinese engineers can start the survey now, followed by workers， both flew-ins and the locals， to construct the onshore facilities required. All should be done within a year.

Then send over 2 Type 056 frigates, few auxiliary ships plus several light aircrafts and UAVs.

The small three-ship fleet currently patrolling the Gulf of Aden can also make use of the base for their supplies and recreational needs。

Don't forget Lanka, my dear Chini

 

[asianobserve]

This is a minor diplomatic coup for the Chinese... but the US and India have to do more on thi spart of the World.

 

[cir]

This is a minor diplomatic coup for the Chinese... but the US and India have to do more on thi spart of the World.

You seem to think that the US is India's natural ally。

Is it really？if yes， how come then India is considered by no other than Panetta， a threat to America's security？

Wake up dude！It is the colour of your skin，not ideology， that ultimately determines where you belong。

 

[Dovah]

Wake up dude！It is the colour of your skin，not ideology， that ultimately determines where you belong。

They teach this in China's schools?

 

[asianobserve]

You seem to think that the US is India's natural ally。

Is it really？if yes， how come then India is considered by no other than Panetta， a threat to America's security？

Wake up dude！It is the colour of your skin，not ideology， that ultimately determines where you belong。

I'm brown, where do I belong then?

 

[SHASH2K2]

You seem to think that the US is India's natural ally。

Is it really？if yes， how come then India is considered by no other than Panetta， a threat to America's security？

Wake up dude！It is the colour of your skin，not ideology， that ultimately determines where you belong。

YELLOW YELLOW DIRTY FELLOW. someone told me that chinese are bigger racist than almost all other races. Now I realize how true he was.

 

[asianobserve]

I wouldn't go that far. But I have no illusions about Chinese intentions and behavior in the region, they're extremely selfish and domineering. The US is a far gentler beast in all respects than a superpower China.

 

[Dovah]

I wouldn't go that far. But I have no illusions about Chinese intentions and behavior in the region, they're extremely selfish and domineering. The US is a far gentler beast in all respects than a superpower China.

Yeah, the US has its reputation as the guardian of Equality and Justice to maintain, China doesn't roll that way.

 

[asianobserve]

With the very abbrassive attitude and a brazen show of brute arrogance, China has woken up the entire ASEAN region in just 1 year. Now it's back to default mode for all the countries in the neighborhood, "it's better to deal with the devil we already know:" The only exception is Myanmar, it's going out of its comfort zone to extend a hand to the US... But of course still in synch with the general feeling of the ASEAN countries.

China has a very simple but annoying strategy in the region if it does not get what it wants immediately, it will threaten economic actions against that small country... As if it is already the undisputed economy in the World. How much more if it gains No. 1 position? This is absolutely crazy.

 

[mattster]

I have said this before and I will say it again - if you think the US is a bad superpower, then wait till China develops a full blown blue-water navy with the capability to project power far beyond their shores.

Then you will see the Chinese claiming every spick of island land as close as 5 miles from the shores of the ASEAN countries. And they will use their economic and military power to intimidate the whole ASEAN region including the Aussies, Japan, and India.

It will probably take 20 years for China to become the undisputed king of South Asia - That means that all the these countries have about 20 years to get their "shit" together. Only the Aussies, Japan and India have the combination of size, technological and economc strength to prevent the whole of South Asia from being dominated.

I seriously doubt India will ever get there - India is too divided, too corrupt, and too slow with a hopelessly incompetent political class. A few competent individuals at the top cannot change the whole country. Central govt in India is too weak.

So that leaves Japan and Australia - both are too dependent on the US and the US will have its own problems by then.

 

[Galaxy]

I have said this before and I will say it again - if you think the US is a bad superpower, then wait till China develops a full blown blue-water navy with the capability to project power far beyond their shores.

Then you will see the Chinese claiming every spick of island land as close as 5 miles from the shores of the ASEAN countries. And they will use their economic and military power to intimidate the whole ASEAN region including the Aussies, Japan, and India.

It will probably take 20 years for China to become the undisputed king of South Asia - That means that all the these countries have about 20 years to get their "shit" together. Only the Aussies, Japan and India have the combination of size, technological and economc strength to prevent the whole of South Asia from being dominated.

I seriously doubt India will ever get there - India is too divided, too corrupt, and too slow with a hopelessly incompetent political class. A few competent individuals at the top cannot change the whole country. Central govt in India is too weak.

So that leaves Japan and Australia - both are too dependent on the US and the US will have its own problems by then.

U.S. is and will be super power at least till 2050. Good or bad doesn't matter.

India is neither divided not it has so much corruption that it can't become big power. Make no mistake. Don't live on cheap smoke.

Japan and Australia both are developed nation and not beggar country Like Pakistan who is surviving on U.S. Aid since 55 years.

Where are S.K., Singapore, Philippines, Vietnam ??

China might become big power but undisputed ?? You are giving too much importance to Chinese but I can understand your bias towards China.

As I said before, Once a Paki always a Paki.

 

[LurkerBaba]

As I said before, Once a Paki always a Paki.

Err.. are you referring to mattster ?

 

[Galaxy]

Err.. are you referring to mattster ?

Yes.........

 

[LurkerBaba]

Yes.........

mattster is of Indian origin. Let's get back on topic

 

[amitkriit]

I have said this before and I will say it again - if you think the US is a bad superpower, then wait till China develops a full blown blue-water navy with the capability to project power far beyond their shores.

Then you will see the Chinese claiming every spick of island land as close as 5 miles from the shores of the ASEAN countries. And they will use their economic and military power to intimidate the whole ASEAN region including the Aussies, Japan, and India.

It will probably take 20 years for China to become the undisputed king of South Asia - That means that all the these countries have about 20 years to get their "shit" together. Only the Aussies, Japan and India have the combination of size, technological and economc strength to prevent the whole of South Asia from being dominated.

I seriously doubt India will ever get there - India is too divided, too corrupt, and too slow with a hopelessly incompetent political class. A few competent individuals at the top cannot change the whole country. Central govt in India is too weak.

So that leaves Japan and Australia - both are too dependent on the US and the US will have its own problems by then.

USA and China will play the great game, India will be a mute spectator for a few decades at least. When China declared that India is "not equal" there was some truth in this statement. We are unable to make our neighborhood safe for ourselves, our small neighbors are messing with us, beating us up with Chinese stick.

China vs India at the moment is like USA vs USSR, we can match them in terms of number of weapons (may be), but we can not match China in economic and strategic clout. Therefore before over-stepping our boundaries, we must put our immediate neighborhood in order, and most probably put our house in order.

"Democracy" did not help us in saving our face in 1962 war, democracy could not deter Pakistan from launching a limited war against us in 1999, and democracy will not help us in future. Therefore let us think beyond the Democracy vs Communism for once.

Truth is that even a country like Pakistan is a huge nut for us to crack.

 

[mattster]

To make a long story short - the point I wanted to make is that Australia, India, Japan and the smaller ASEAN countries are natural allies if they all want the South China Sea and Indian Ocean to be free from Chinese domination.

Right now the US is the 900 pound gorilla in the region and Australia and Japan being strong US allies are comfortable.
But 20 years in future - the US may have its own problems to deal with and these countries will have to bend over to the Chinese unless they form a strong alliance among themselves.

 

[cir]

Yeah, the US has its reputation as the guardian of Equality and Justice to maintain, China doesn't roll that way.

US the guardian of equality and justice？

It is so only in your figment of imagination。

The US does everything in its national interests and I don't blame it for that。

But it is an entirely different matter if people are naive enough to think the US savior of the world。Not even in the minds of the brainwashed。