SEAL Team Six Killed by Taliban

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Pakistani army is an army of terroriest, they are going mad day by day. first they beheaded Indian soldiers and now intentionly killing special forces and neavy seals of America. These kind of task only performed by experts and professionals and Talibans. Even America also know this.
 

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This further concludes that US is not going anywhere. Maybe they'd take out 20 or 30,000 soldiers, but bulk of soldiers are not going anywhere until Talibunnies are fried fish. Nobody other than China and Pakistan wants them to leave. Not even Russians whose underbelly the CAR countries are simply going to dish it out if the Americans leave while Taliban live.

This is only going to increase the frequency of drone attacks. But as usual, somebody would whine, "dirty Zionist Americans intentionally killing innocent women and children"...

As if US is jobless sitting there just interested in seeing women and children getting killed. :doh:

Right now if there is an enemy of US, it is Pakistan. Even China cannot be US enemy because if either suffer, the other will automatically get screwed. Pakistan is the main enemy for US interests more than anyone.
 

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Wow ! This is changing blowing into a tit-for-tat philosophy between the Americans and ISI-Taliban nexus ! The Americans wouldn't have thought even in their that dreams that such an elite team like USN Seal Team 6 would be taken out by a bunch of terrorists, this kind of intelligence suggests that has to be some mole among the American intelligence working for the ISI. Otherwise, no matter how much capable the ISI might be, they can never have such specific details like all 20 members of the team that took out Bin Laden present on this particular chopper. This is really a big loss for the American military !
Well armed terrorists with RPGs will try to shoot down any chopper they see...though equipped with flares and chaff to distract heat/radar seeking missles, modern choppers still have no counter measures against direct RPG fire. I think they need to start work on hard kill counter measures such as Trophy APS adapted to be used on choppers and slow moving aircraft to protect them against low tech and cheap direct fire RPGs. an ISI mole soo deep in the US admin where sensi info like location of tier 1, 2 or even 3 Spec ops units is out of the question, even if they had a mole, the intel provided to the Talib will be just limited to early warning of a possible raid. Shooting down this chopper seems more like a well timed shot taken by a muj, the chopper happened to be carrying ST-6 operatives, the muj just got lucky. He won't be lucky for too long, bound to get shot in the head by a SEAL or bombed one of these days. Spec Ops, Marines as well as Predator activity is bound to rise three fold, if it hasn't already. SEALs will be hungry for revenge, they wont take such a loss quietly.
 
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This further concludes that US is not going anywhere. Maybe they'd take out 20 or 30,000 soldiers, but bulk of soldiers are not going anywhere until Talibunnies are fried fish. Nobody other than China and Pakistan wants them to leave. Not even Russians whose underbelly the CAR countries are simply going to dish it out if the Americans leave while Taliban live.

This is only going to increase the frequency of drone attacks. But as usual, somebody would whine, "dirty Zionist Americans intentionally killing innocent women and children"...

As if US is jobless sitting there just interested in seeing women and children getting killed. :doh:

Right now if there is an enemy of US, it is Pakistan. Even China cannot be US enemy because if either suffer, the other will automatically get screwed. Pakistan is the main enemy for US interests more than anyone.
Americans can stay in Afghanistan for 5 more years or 50 more years. They can lose 500 more soldiers or 50,000 more. Nothing is going to change the situation as long as Pakistan remains.

But the Americans are not fools. They did not charge into Afghanistan blindly with no geopolitical objective, nor did they extend their relations and influence into Pakistan on a whim. This was all planned out, but the exact nature of American geopolitical objectives and their wider implications are still not perfectly clear. They will probably become more apparent in this coming decade.

What's obvious, however, is that the war has very little to do with terrorism.
 

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US helicopter shot down in Afghanistan was on rescue mission




The US Navy Seals and other troops whose helicopter was shot down in eastern Afghanistan had rushed to the mountainous area to help a US army ranger unit that was under fire from insurgents, two US officials said Sunday.

The rescue team had completed the mission, subduing the attackers who had the rangers pinned down, and were departing in their Chinook helicopter when the aircraft was apparently hit, an official said.

Thirty Americans and eight Afghans were killed in the crash, making it the deadliest single loss for U.S. forces in the decade-long war in Afghanistan. The rangers, special operations forces who work regularly with the Seals, afterwards secured the crash site in the Tangi Joy Zarin area of Wardak province, about 60 miles (97km) southwest of Kabul, an official said.

On Sunday, Nato began an operation to recover the remains of the large transport helicopter, while Afghan and American forces battled insurgents in the region of the crash. The clashes Sunday did not appear to involve the troops around the crash site.

"There have been a small number of limited engagements in the same district as yesterday's helicopter crash, however those clashes have not been in the direct vicinity of the crash site," NATO said in a statement. "As of now, we have no reporting to indicate any coalition casualties resulting from these engagements."

Shahidullah Shahid, the Wardak provincial spokesman, confirmed the helicopter recovery mission was under way and said there were reports of Taliban casualties overnight.

"There is a joint operation going on by Afghan and Nato forces. A clearing operation is ongoing in the district and there are reports of casualties among insurgents," Shahid said. "The area is still surrounded by American forces."

Elsewhere in Afghanistan, Nato said insurgents killed four alliance service members in two separate attacks in the east and the south. It did not provide their nationalities or any other details.

The deaths bring to 369 the number of coalition troops killed this year in Afghanistan and 46 this month.

The downing of the helicopter Saturday was heavy setback for the US-led coalition as it begins to draw down thousands of combat troops fighting what has become an increasingly costly and unpopular war.

Of the 30 Americans killed, there were 22 Navy Seals, three Air Force combat controllers and a dog handler, his dog and four crew members, a current US official and a former official said on condition of anonymity because military officials were still notifying the families of the dead.

Most of the Seals belonged to the same elite unit that killed Osama bin Laden, although they were not the same people who participated in the May raid into Pakistan that killed the al-Qaida leader. The downing was a stinging blow to the lauded, tight-knit Seal Team 6, months after its crowning achievement.
 

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A very lucky shot. Maybe the US is now seriously considering equipping their helos with active protection systems from Israel.
 

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RIP for those warriors...
 

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A very lucky shot. Maybe the US is now seriously considering equipping their helos with active protection systems from Israel.
It didnt work, Even Iron fist failed in vollys of RPG fire, And the worst case is US doctorine of Helo insertion is wrong this is nothing new, before event, similar event happen again and again..

The problem is they put all their eggs in one and throw them into fire zone, worst case is they were using a SOF CH-47 not multiple SOF black hawks..
 

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Was that really seal team six? Is that another cover up? OBL's body was never shown and reported to have been buried. Now everyone who was directly involved in that operation is also dead. So nobody would be able to give a first hand account of what happened in Abbottabad.
 

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what the hell they were thinking using chinook helicopter which can carry up to 40 troops in combat zone, it is big juice target if flying low, easy for RPG to take it down from some distance it is so big.



if Chinook goes down, then it is for the US to be blame for this, they should have used few small helicopters instead of chinook. Now they have paid price for the same.

think just like taking double decker bus to combat and expect to come out.

 
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This rare Taliban success against US Spec Ops Chinook must be put into proper perspective. I do not the figure to back me up but based on bits of informations available it is reasonable to believe that the US SOCOM regularly fly terrain hugging helicopter missions all over Afghanistan and occasionally into Pakistan.
 

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Was that really seal team six? Is that another cover up? OBL's body was never shown and reported to have been buried. Now everyone who was directly involved in that operation is also dead. So nobody would be able to give a first hand account of what happened in Abbottabad.
This is Golden squadron of Seal Team Six. The one took part in the OBL raid is Red squadron. Both belong to same Seal Team six which is divided into 5 squadrons.
 

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may be we should take note in view of 15 transport choppers that iaf is going to buy.
 

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Well, now it seems these Talibs got plane lucky on their shot at the chopper, but still its a big blow to the Americans, nevertheless. Rather than looking at APS for short term solutions, the plan should be include heli insertion choppers to be accompanied by attack choppers flying ahead and clearing the way of hostile elements. And the Apache is the best for this purpose.
 

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US slams Pak media on conspiracy angle in Afghan helicopter crash


The US described as "baseless" reports in a section of the Pakistani media suggesting that troops from the unit that conducted the raid against Osama bin Laden may have been deliberately killed in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.



"Some Pakistani media outlets have insinuated the United States killed its own troops in the tragic helicopter crash in Afghanistan to prevent the 'truth' about the death of Osama bin Laden from coming out," US Embassy spokesman Alberto Rodriguez said in a statement.



"These reports are baseless. We are deeply disappointed that Pakistani media would publish such patently false allegations and call on responsible media to accurately report the facts," he said.



Noting that the US government had "repeatedly honoured the loss of Pakistani lives in terrorist attacks," Rodriguez said the two countries "share a common interest in standing together against extremists and terrorists."


US slams Pak media on conspiracy angle in Afghan helicopter crash - Indian Express
 

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This is Golden squadron of Seal Team Six. The one took part in the OBL raid is Red squadron. Both belong to same Seal Team six which is divided into 5 squadrons.
Their is no conformation from Navy yet..

But rumors are 1st Infantry or 10th Mountain instead of SEAL Team 6 there, Thier were seals but only two, rest are US army and Afghan SOF with a Medic..
 

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