SC bans crackers on Diwali in Delhi; will BJP do anything?

Discussion in 'Politics & Society' started by Sakal Gharelu Ustad, Oct 10, 2017.

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Are you happy with cracker ban?

  1. Yes- Crackers are not part of tradition

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    8.1%
  2. Yes- Crackers are a health problem

    14 vote(s)
    18.9%
  3. No

    54 vote(s)
    73.0%
  1. Indx TechStyle

    Indx TechStyle War Mongerer Veteran Member Senior Member

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    I said what we need. Although, his goodwill will always be appreciated. If he was alive, he would have been a much better option than M/s Nehru & Gandhi.
     
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    I'm kind of conflicted on this issue. I like crackers as it is mostly for kids but air pollution in Delhi is unbearable. A fixed window is great 2 - 3 hrs. Money for crackers can be donated to temples which can provide 'bhog' and blanket for poor and needy.

    Having said that if SC tries to show partiality to other religions and liberandus then it's time to strike fear into their hearts Sabarimala Protest style!
     
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    I think this is one of those wishful thinkings. We cannot say how he would have turned out in his late 30s or 40s when India finally became independent. People and their views typically evolve with time.
     
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    Most of us have actually cut down on the crackers for various reasons raging from
    1) Dangerous material and no accountability for the manufacturers
    2) High prices
    3) Pollution
    and a few other reasons

    However these come from us the people. Tyrannical imposition of rules and restrictions by an authority to please someone who doesn't have my interests in mind had to be opposed which I did.

    On the other hand, we must have a decent understanding of explosives and chemicals (I will decide with my people on what is reasonable) as part of our culture. I refuse to become a mindless zombie because my joy is somehow causing fear in the heart of some abrahamic fanatic.

    While we are at it, we should start doing proper Ayudha Pooja too. Not just for tools and machines.
     
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    vampyrbladez Senior Member Senior Member

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    ^ This..............................................................................................................
     
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    Indx TechStyle War Mongerer Veteran Member Senior Member

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    Yeah factors depend, but the people who got the chance and couldn't carry India there will be called culprit for actual history and we will keep dreaming of alternative history.
    India got independence because just 40,000 British soldiers would have been eviscrated by 0.4 million Indian trained troops & Azad Hind Fauj, not because of yet another dharna from M.K. Gandhi. It is common sense & doesn't need any additional elaboration.
     
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    That is indeed true. But the INA revolt was very real and the British reasons for quitting India are also well-documented and by-and-large accepted save for Nehru-Gandhi acolytes.

    Bhagat Singh is a different situation, there was a time when he captured the public imagination like no other (again this comes from our reading of sources). He (and others) died at a very young age, when the idea of independence was still some distance away- Poorna Swarajya was the prevailing idea. Djinnah was yet to unveil his inner dracula and Iqbal was still moping over being overlooked for Nobel but like a spurned lover, becoming a ferocious Islamist.

    It's fascinating to speculate what this lot of dedicated, passionate young men could have done for the national independence movement, especially with WWII looming.

    Do remember, they were avowed Marxists, especially Bhagat Singh and it is very likely they would have thrown their lot with the Soviets and by extension the allies (INA on the other hand took a radically opposite decision to ally with the enemies of the British.) This would have them working closely with Nehru-Gandhi and the Brits. One can only imagine the possible outcomes.
     
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  8. happylion

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    No one had to do anything. Bangalore for eg just burst crackdrs according to teir schedule hizzoners be damned !!
     
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    Govt. and SC needs to do research before passing law or judgement.

    SC is becoming a joke these days.

    We should not miss our festivity. We should produce crackers with less pollution.

    Having said that, global warning is the result of many nations especially the west polluting the globe for centuries.

    Hindus, sikhs, Jains and Buddhists only burst the crackers for few hours, but the news media is projecting as if we are responsible for pollution.

    The pollution at this time in the north has s because of cold weather, vehicle and industrial pollution.
     
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    The main cause of pollution in Delhi at this time of the year is the farm stubble burning.
     
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    lack of leadership and especially the new delhi administration. suggestions by kejriwal are too political and not practical. the current delhi assembly elections only bring out political representatives. the capital is also a sensitive area and arena that has its own parameters and conditions in place that are fine. however we need a system that has a london "mayor", new york "mayor"and paris "mayor" system. reform ? before 1998 referandum the london city was also administered differently. people will vote for better political discourse for better administration. why cannot we have a direcetly elected CM - Mayor of Delhi and not only an assembly. certain function and powers can be devolved and delegated to a directly elected CM - Mayor of Delhi that is also checked and supported by a delhi assembly and also an LG. The people ought to question and observe the performance of such a person. there is a lot of youth and youngsters that would be motivated to supprot and observe such a system.

    New York, Paris and London ... are not bad cities
     
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    Only revolution libturds should do is Dance Dance Revolution.
     
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    Law aiding Monsanto is reason for Delhi’s annual smoke season
    The decision to delay the clearing of the fields was not the choice of farmers, but was forced on them by the Punjab government, which passed the Punjab Preservation of Subsoil Water Act in 2009. According to this law, farmers can no longer sow rice in April, but have to wait until the middle of June to do so. Haryana too has copied Punjab and passed a similar law. Rice has a 120-day period between germination and harvest, and the restriction on sowing the grain means that the fields would be harvested and cleared only in October, by which time the direction of the wind would have changed. In what has turned out to be a real world example of the Butterfly Effect, Delhi’s problem of being covered by smoke started right after this law was implemented for the first time. Before this law was passed, the problem in Delhi was limited to vehicular and industrial pollution, apart from smoke from bonfires in winter, and there were no reports of the entire metropolitan area being enveloped by smoke.

    This piece of legislation was passed ostensibly to preserve groundwater, the depletion of which was blamed on rice fields, which supposedly not only used too much water, but also lost a significant quantity of water to evaporation, but this argument is a very tenuous one. According to the International Water Management Institute (IWMI), water in rice fields contributes to recharging the groundwater and very little of it is lost to evaporation. The data from Uttar Pradesh in IWMI’s analysis shows that rice fields in the state contributed to increasing the level of the water table, thus supporting the claim that water in rice fields replenishes the aquifers.

    The group that has been primarily responsible for exerting pressure to move away from growing rice in the name of “crop diversification” is the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), which operates out of the American embassy. Over a period of several years, it has used the excuse of preventing the decline of groundwater to push this agenda. USAID has a worldwide reputation of behaving like a front group for American multinational corporations such as Monsanto. Former American diplomat Jeanine Jackson recently justified her intervention in favour of Monsanto when she served as the American ambassador to Burkina Faso by claiming that the advocacy of American businesses and investments was the “number one task” for ambassadors.

    It should, therefore, come as no surprise that Monsanto will be the primary beneficiary of USAID’s purported solution for Punjab’s problems. According to their solution, farmers need to stop growing rice and replace it with Monsanto’s genetically modified (GMO) maize.
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    more to it...at the link
    https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/12191-law-aiding-monsanto-reason-delhi-s-annual-smoke-season
     

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