Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by Kunal Biswas, Jan 2, 2015.
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what are the chances of such UAV / UCAV getting shot down? dnt they get detected on radar? i had read that even predators had fallen prey to enemy missiles..
Do u we have any stealth versions of UAV/UCAV under development , coz it matters most in these planes as their speed is not quite great to escape missiles..
Predator top speed is 217 km/h . how they manage to duck missiles
India Will No Longer Require Israel’s Heron or US Predator Drones
They have already tested Helina from Rustom-1, I think it won`t surprise us if we see the same from mark 2 ..
Can we make one to carry Astra AAM or a heavy to carry Nirbhay A or BrahMos A?
It won`t be surprising to see series of Rustom class UCAV which will be bigger and with bigger payload ..
I don`t think it needs to carry cruise missiles in coming days but surly big precision guided bombs ..
If i not wrong DRDO/ ADE has perfected autonomous operations in Rustom 1 itself which includes take-off and landing. So technology is there. Though how well it is integrated is a,thing to see.
We need to collaborate or form JV on research on SDB which can be used for precision strikes. SDB's on Rustom will be a great add on.
Somebody should tell the good AM that Rustom is as much about aviation as an RC plane.
Rustom is essentially about Automation, PNT, Information Warfare and interlinkages of weapons and sensors. Once Rustom-2 is done you can begin to do much more interesting things basis the learning curve of Rustom series.
IIRC HAL & BEL won the tender for developing and manufacturing 18 Rustom-2s for Rs 1500 in 2010 after many years of preliminary work by ADE on the UAV. Some old links are given below. Thereafter HAL, BEL, ADE combine roundly fucked it up. One cannot say, Whether it was intentional to help Israeli UAV imports. Be as it may, the payload was envisaged to be around 350kg and fuel around 250kg but the UAV is 700kg overweight hence it cannot even take off. And even if it does take off, it will be only for show.
What is required is that engines are replaced by turboprops like Garrett being manufactured by HAL and Rustom-2 be pushed forward. But rather then radical surgery ADE/HAL combine are dong tinkering like slightly more powerful piston engines and half baked attempt to shave off some weight. Even this exercise is supposed to take 2-4 years, hence production of UAV will be delayed by 5-10 years. Who wins? Imports!
Some of the officials apprehended that a lobby was taking advantage of the slow pace of indigenous UAVs by pushing for a particular foreign firm. DRDO’s Bengaluru-based Aeronautical Development Establishment is leading the Rustom project and a budget of Rs 1,540 crore has been allocated to develop the Rustom-II in 2011 to match the capabilities of US-built Predator drone.
Official Mission Profile Of India’s Rustom-2 UCAV
There’s a lot of talk on the interwebs on precisely what kind of platform India’s Rustom-2 MALE UAS will be. As it prepares for its first flight late this month or early August, I thought I’d pull out this official schematic slide I obtained back in 2012, depicting for the first time the Rustom-2’s operational profile. This was, in effect, the first official document describing the Rustom-2 as a strike platform.
Livefist can confirm that the Rustom-2 platform that will fly shortly isn’t optimised for weapons carriage -- hardpoints for weapons will be sported likely on the second prototype of the Rustom-2, which will also contain weight optimisation and aerodynamic improvements. That airframe could be rolled out as early as next year, sources say.
Livefist will reporting in detail shortly on the concept AURA USAV project too. Meanwhile, the imminent flight test of India’s first stated unmanned strike platform is a momentous occasion, and an opportune time to discuss the way forward, both in terms of technology and doctrine. Glad to have your thoughts below.
Its just sad that prototyping and coding for a unmanned surveillance platform takes this long....I mean really...coding UAV platforms is not rocket science anymore. I am also surprised as to why TATA's and Mahindras with there deep pockets didnt come up with anything.
Let the MoD officially Make a prospective plan about their requirement of UAV numbers for next 15 years. Once that happens your wish will be true.
Most Indian companies are not risk takers, they don't put money without assurance of revenue.
Heard Indian Turboprop will replace Russian one in Rustom-2 in future, is that true??
If yes who is developing the new indian turboprop
Its Canadian piston engine rather turbo prop ..
But which which candian piston engine is that?? can you name plz
Rustom-1 is Lycoming 0-320
Austro-Canadian Rotax 914 F3 engines, maximum continuous power of 100 BHP produced by 914F3
People in R&D have bigger plans for Rustoms, They developing 8kn jet engine for UCAV, Assuming Rustom 2 model with piston engine and followed up versions with turbo fan engines ..
^^ Much like this ..
Rustom is fucked in present configuration. It is super massively overweight. If more powerful Piston engines are used then it will add to weight and more fuel will also be required, hence the whole configuration has to be redone. HAL has to use turboprop or turbofan engines. In any case, piston engine powered UCAVs fly too low and too slow for Himalayan heights, which are our primary area of conflict.
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