Russia snubs India, postpones defence minister's visit to New Delhi

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No doubt the Pakis have bought it. Am Merely saying that Russia reaping the economic benefits of this directly, is absurd. It is possible. But from the looks of it, Pakistan benefitted more from it than Russia. And this is all a part of the posture and counter posture that has been going on between India and Russia. However we will agree that India started it, won't we?
I think it is a bump in the road i can't see Russia getting too friendly witht he nation that handed them their
Afghan defeat.
 

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No doubt the Pakis have bought it. Am Merely saying that Russia reaping the economic benefits of this directly, is absurd. It is possible. But from the looks of it, Pakistan benefitted more from it than Russia. And this is all a part of the posture and counter posture that has been going on between India and Russia. However we will agree that India started it, won't we?
ભારત નો નેતા બગાડ ગયો છે | વાર્તા કરવાનું લાજ આવે .
 

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ભારત નો નેતા બગાડ ગયો છે | વાર્તા કરવાનું લાજ આવે .
Translation please.
 

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I think it is a bump in the road i can't see Russia getting too friendly witht he nation that handed them their
Afghan defeat.
Let this deal happen Russia will have less weight in the multilateral say to India. But India has to balance the force b/w UN/IMF/ADB/WorldBank.

Leading | Export Partner | Import Partner.
Russia | European Union | European Union
India | European Union | European Union
Japan | China | China

CAB ($bill.)
Russia |90.510| 2011.
India |-62.960| 2011.
Japan |122.800| 2011.

see India is import hungry country with -ve CAB. Russia and Japan are both with +ve CAB. Means more share in Foreign Reserve, so more voting power in IMF/WorldBank/ADB etc.
current account deficit reached a record 13 percent of GDP in 2011 for Russia due to underlying oil price volatility.
Means lowering of Currency Rate and Increase in domestic price, Inflation, unrest etc etc. so Russia needs urgent Export Growth. India also has CAD of about 5.1% to 5.5% of GDP ( don't remember exactly).

So what should India do.
India
--Needs to do a Currency Swap Agreement with Russia as it did with Japan. India, Japan sign $15-billion currency swap deal
India needs to diversify the basket of Export and Economic linkages as Russia is doing , as India's CAD is also much high.
--Needs to create more systemic linkage with Russian Economy.( with not only arms ).
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Indian leaders kab jaagege ! :(
 

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Let this deal happen Russia will have less weight in the multilateral say to India. But India has to balance the force b/w UN/IMF/ADB/WorldBank.

Leading | Export Partner | Import Partner.
Russia | European Union | European Union
India | European Union | European Union
Japan | China | China

CAB ($bill.)
Russia |90.510| 2011.
India |-62.960| 2011.
Japan |122.800| 2011.

see India is import hungry country with -ve CAB. Russia and Japan are both with +ve CAB. Means more share in Foreign Reserve, so more voting power in IMF/WorldBank/ADB etc.
current account deficit reached a record 13 percent of GDP in 2011 for Russia due to underlying oil price volatility.
Means lowering of Currency Rate and Increase in domestic price, Inflation, unrest etc etc. so Russia needs urgent Export Growth. India also has CAD of about 5.1% to 5.5% of GDP ( don't remember exactly).

So what should India do.
India
--Needs to do a Currency Swap Agreement with Russia as it did with Japan. India, Japan sign $15-billion currency swap deal
India needs to diversify the basket of Export and Economic linkages as Russia is doing , as India's CAD is also much high.
--Needs to create more systemic linkage with Russian Economy.( with not only arms ).
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Indian leaders kab jaagege ! :(
Just curious, are you an economist? You seem to understand complex currency policies pretty well.....
 

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now what you guys think from last one year i was saying that

now we should open our eyes no one is friend unless we make ourself strong .well good luck for china

is threre any thin tank who can think for 5 -15 years , is there any one who think for nation not for govt
 

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now what you guys think from last one year i was saying that

now we should open our eyes no one is friend unless we make ourself strong .well good luck for china

is threre any thin tank who can think for 5 -15 years , is there any one who think for nation not for govt
Russia can't outrightly reject India.Their still going on collaborations with India are vast. Russia needs its own strategic space and it is the right time as economic conditions need some more exports, it will diversify its basket. India needs a more stronger bond and not less with Russia. Don't get mistaken and be taken for the ride. Russia can become a good market ,with liberalization and W.T.O norms being implemented,for India. GDP with FDI and Manufacturing will show its results in 10 years. Just wait and watch.
 
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Russia can't outrightly reject India.Their still going on collaborations with India are vast. Russia needs its own strategic space and it is the right time as economic conditions need some more exports, it will diversify its basket. India needs a more stronger bond and not less with Russia. Don't get mistaken and be taken for the ride. Russia can become a good market ,with liberalization and W.T.O norms being implemented,for India. GDP with FDI and Manufacturing will show its results in 10 years. Just wait and watch.

for next 10 years you have to be strong . do you think china will give you easy time my god are sleeping

cant you see whats going behind the door brother we are in real trouble but problem is that we dont want to see .

(a friend feel more jealous when other friend get strong and that happening between india and russia )

i am not against russia but i cant ignore my nation
 

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Pakis DONT have Money ; Not even ONE billion dollars for constructing the Iran Pakistan pipeline
which the Russians were willing to do

Pakis are DESPERATE to get Al 31 for J 10

Even China wants that Russia must allow the re export of AL 31 to Pakistan

J10 is held up because of AL 31

This is where India has to raise the stakes and NOT allow the sale of AL 31 for at least 3 or 4 years

Let the pakis buy RD 93 and continue with the junk fighter JF 17
 

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What can Pakis offer to the Russians

Neither Money nor Afghanistan

Afghanistan is NOT something that they will able to control in future
because there are so many forces and powers at play there

Pakis will be edged out in the future GREAT game that will be played in Afghanistan
because they cannot buy the Taliban support anymore
 

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To make sure we do not compromise the parity with Pakistan and China given any/possible increased cooperation of Russia with them India has to explore and invest its options for high end technology readily available from France, ~Germany, Israel, Japan and ~USA. And luckily we are already doing it.

Other than PAKFA and possible lease of another NEPRA/Chakra the order book is quite empty for Russia. The current projects under construction or groom for navy were signed half a decade ago. Super Sukhoi is kind of an upgrade of present TOT we have already absorbed and with resolve, whim and will can utilize or channelize the know-about to other indigenous projects and mass produce.

To see this so called change of order through geo political prism then,

First rule of the game is that no game is zero sum game,

2ndly you can't keep anyone isolated as long as they have airliner to take off from their airports,

3rd Oil still flows from Middle East,

4th Russia opposes TAPI gas pipeline but favours IPI pipeline which drags Turkmenistan into the loop,

5th Americans are not going to abandon Afghanistan (as per money they have pledged) for next 7-8 years and so furthermore they are serving Russian interests without Russians spending any penny,

6th Pakistan has to buy its own lunch if they want to eat and it's not going to give them any advantage against India the way they will pretend or troll, .

7th Pakistan is showing that she is trying to sound and act like a responsible state who is now accepting the realities of multi polar world, which is too good to be true. But if it is true then they are going to be less quixotic, less outlandish or easy sell of proxies as they have been since their inception, which good for us too.
 
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And to add insult to the injured...no devastated Paki Echh and Dee (or whatever is left of it)...

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