RSS office in Kannur destroyed in bomb attack

[Tshering22]

But this would be written in our newspapers as:

"Secular heros destroy terrorist hideout: help the Army".

Because this is not a terrorist attack.

 

[sob]

What Karthic has pointed out is more or less true. There seems to be a sizeable population of the minority community, mostly fishermen in this area, and the Communists act as thier protectors, and they also draw upon the local communities for most of their cadre. So there are communal overtones.

The sad truth is that the administration has never been serious enough to crack down on this violence. Many people have lost their lives and many more people have had their limbs hacked in retaliatory attacks. Action should be taken and trouble makers from both the sides should be brought to the book.

 

[KS]

What Karthic has pointed out is more or less true. There seems to be a sizeable population of the minority community, mostly fishermen in this area, and the Communists act as thier protectors, and they also draw upon the local communities for most of their cadre. So there are communal overtones.

The sad truth is that the administration has never been serious enough to crack down on this violence. Many people have lost their lives and many more people have had their limbs hacked in retaliatory attacks. Action should be taken and trouble makers from both the sides should be brought to the book.

Not only they are not serious enough, but most of the times actively collude with the lumpen elements for vote considerations..

 

[Ray]

What is the demography in this place Kannur?

 

[ejazr]

Its interesting how when even when there is no "minority" angle per se, that has to be brought in with charges of Saudi/UAE petro dollar. No proof is necessary. Speculation and hearsay is enough.

CPM and RSS workers have both indulged in attacks and killings and stabbings with each other. This is a known fact in Kerela. And they don't need petro dollars to do so. This is a case of political violence and the administration of the district has been woeful incompetent in handling this.

Back in 2008, there was an attack by RSS workers on the CPM HQ in Kannur.
BJP, RSS workers attack CPM HQ - Times Of India
CPM workers have been hacked to death by RSS workers as well and again here is one news report in Kannur
CPM worker killed in Thalassery - Times Of India
3 killed in BJP-CPM clashes in Kannur - Indian Express
And in almost all cases, the victims of both sides seem to be Hindu names.

When there is a clear history of political violence between CPM and BJP/RSS, why is it being given a minority angle.

Given the anaethema of the Saudis to Communist movements and their role not just in Afghanistan but Africa and other Arab countries in subverting leftist movements, its hard to believe that CPM would be getting financial help to sustain its activities.
Just recently when the elections in Kerala concluded, an article was posted that claimed that "Hindus" voted for CPM and that the election result is proof of religious polarization and that BJP/RSS had canvassed for CPM. Unless people can see the broader context rather than just making simplistic explanations based only on the religious aspects, would hardly make sense and in turn not solve the problem.

Kerala needs and independent professional police force that can tackle political violence without interference from political leaders.Otherwise, we are going the West Bengal way where we also see lots of political violence between TMC, CPM, CPI-M and other political forces.

 

[Galaxy]

What is the demography in this place Kannur?

61% Hindus, 28% Muslims, 11% Christians.

 

[Bangalorean]

There is more than fair chance that it was indeed the case in this one, as violence between the CPM red shirts and RSS is there in many places.

This is one conflict in which I will have no hesitation in taking the RSS' side. The commies need to be culled and smothered, as far as possible.

 

[bhramos]

One of my Syrian Christian friends told me that Hindus and Christians collectively vote CPM to screw congress

no Syrian Christians vote to Congress, see all ministers in from Kerala are Christians. AK Antony, KV Thomas......

 

[KS]

@ Ejaz,

You need not refute anything about Commies getting petro dollars from Saudis/Gulf because no body made that accusation. And I also acknowledged that violence between the CPM red shirts and RSS is quite common over there.

Moreover its has not been established without doubt that it was indeed the commies who had been involved in this attack..The newpaper speculates it and pending investigation the two most likely perperators were the commies or the jihadis. That was what I arrived at.

But the fact that Wahhabism (bankrolled by the Saudis/UAE) is gripping Kerala is not hearsay. Radicalism is spreading deep in Kerala and I dont know about you..but I'm from a border district in TN with many friends from Malapuram/Malabar region and I am aware of ground situation..Wasn't there a case of Kerala muslims who were LeT militants getting caught in Kashmir ? PFI , a violent offshoot of PDP is growing in leaps and bounds..

This is an IB report on the growing Islamic fundamentalism in Kerala and the funding mostly comes from Gulf countries.http://ibnlive.in.com/news/islamic-fundamentalism-gaining-ground-in-kerala/134213-3.html

Of course we have the choice to defend them and pretend that nothing is happening or we can be pro-active and nip it in the bud (though its not a bud anymore) and prevent Kerala from becoming another Azamgarh or so.

no Syrian Christians vote to Congress, see all ministers in from Kerala are Christians. AK Antony, KV Thomas......

Yes..infact the Kerala Congress (a separate political party) is itself a church backed party.

 

[Ray]

One has to understand the Christianity to understand that Christians anywhere are not a monolithic Group.

All are aware that Martin Luther revolted against the Pope and started the Protestant branch of Christianity and the two are always at loggerheads.

Even the Catholic Church is not a monolith. The East–West Schism of 1054, sometimes known as the Great Schism, formally divided the State church of the Roman Empire into Eastern and Western branches. They too have great differences in the interpretation of Christianity.

Therefore, Christians as a whole may or may not support or disapprove of a political party.

I believe the Syriac Orthodox Christians are very rich and rich people control the instruments of power and privilege.

Money speaks and Religion follows later!

It is a happy confusion that keeps all guessing!

 

[KS]

^ they have their differences..but when it comes to external elements they dont think twice before uniting to face it..

 

[Ray]

61% Hindus, 28% Muslims, 11% Christians.

Adequate to have the adrenalin flowing I guess!

 

[Ray]

It is a known fact that the Saudi form of Wahabbism has percolated into Kerala and it is said that the conversion to such radical thoughts have happened in the Middle East which has been swamped by Malayali workers to include the Mappilas or Moplahs.

Given the way the War on Terror has been unleashed and the rise of Pan Islamism because of hurt sentiments, real, imagined and indoctrinated, it is not surprising that the unlettered will fall prey to the wash of sentiment purveyed by the Mullahs that Islam is under attack.

It is quite natural.

 

[Tshering22]

It is a known fact that the Saudi form of Wahabbism has percolated into Kerala and it is said that the conversion to such radical thoughts have happened in the Middle East which has been swamped by Malayali workers to include the Mappilas or Moplahs.

Given the way the War on Terror has been unleashed and the rise of Pan Islamism because of hurt sentiments, real, imagined and indoctrinated, it is not surprising that the unlettered will fall prey to the wash of sentiment purveyed by the Mullahs that Islam is under attack.

It is quite natural.

But then we cannot allow India to become another Arabic Islamic playground. It has to be put down b force. Though RSS has not resorted to aggression in retaliation, I think this is where the special operations need to be carried out in catching and culling Islamists in Kerala. Otherwise it will become another Kashmir where non-Muslims will start getting targeted again.

 

[Ray]

But then we cannot allow India to become another Arabic Islamic playground. It has to be put down b force. Though RSS has not resorted to aggression in retaliation, I think this is where the special operations need to be carried out in catching and culling Islamists in Kerala. Otherwise it will become another Kashmir where non-Muslims will start getting targeted again.

That maybe so.

However, tell it to the politicians.

Votes is the password!

Social Engineering is their game!

 

[Tshering22]

That maybe so.

However, tell it to the politicians.

Votes is the password!

Social Engineering is their game!

Kerala is the homeland of Kung fu's grandaddy the Kalari. Since politicians won't stand to defend them, I think Keralites must start training in Kalaripayattu as a community and start protecting their ancient culture from islamic demographic warfare, conversion and missionarism.

At least we people of the mountains did that many times in history whenever we had inept kings who refused to defend us and our ancient culture.

 

[pankaj nema]

When CPM was in power then they killed dozens of RSS BJP supporters

This is the handi work of CPM people

CPM hates RSS BJP because it feels that if BJP gains a few percentage of votes
CPM will keep loosing to Congress

IN Last elections Congress was agressively wooing Christians and Muslims
and HINDUS voted for CPM

But BJP got 4 % of the votes and upset the CPM's chances

Hence the animosity

 

[parijataka]

It is true that radicalisation is taking place among Muslims in Kerala, mainly due to indoctrination in Middle East where lot of Malayalis work. Last year the case of one professor Joseph whose hands were chopped off by PFI activists for framing questions in a BCom exam paper that they felt to be insulting to the Prophet. Also, Malayali Muslims have been reported to have been fighting in Kashmir.

 

[Tshering22]

When CPM was in power then they killed dozens of RSS BJP supporters

This is the handi work of CPM people

CPM hates RSS BJP because it feels that if BJP gains a few percentage of votes
CPM will keep loosing to Congress

IN Last elections Congress was agressively wooing Christians and Muslims
and HINDUS voted for CPM

But BJP got 4 % of the votes and upset the CPM's chances

Hence the animosity

Communists are such slave-minded losers. They besmirch the name of heros like Bhagat Singh who was a true patriot and whatever path he chose, it was for the nation. I don't understand what fascination Keralites have with the Commies.. They are such vermin that if it suited them one day, they will handover Kerala to China.

Can any Keralite member explain this to me? Because the Communists of NE here are total @$$**e$.