Rohingya refugee crisis

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ISIS is already in bangladesh, they will find some way to help the rohingyas :biggrin2:

What is your definition of ISIS which stands for Islamic State of Iraq & Syria?

 

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1. The Rohingya: Humanitarian Crisis or Security Threat?








The Rohingya: Humanitarian Crisis or Security Threat?
Global attention to the Rohingya issue is rising, but not necessarily for the right reasons.
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2. http://www.malaysiandigest.com/news...migrant-jailed-six-months-fined-rm10-000.html
3. http://burmatimes.net/no-more-jungle-camps-traffickers-tell-migrants/
4. US Embassy: Thein Sein Summons on Rohingya ‘Unrelated’ to Policy








US Embassy: Thein Sein Summons on Rohingya ‘Unrelate...
The US Embassy says America’s Myanmar policy is “unrelated” to a court summons for Thein Sein based on allegations of Rohingya human rights violations.
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5. http://burmatimes.net/increased-security-presence-in-maungdaw-town/
6. Suu Kyi says hopes to lead Myanmar despite constitutional ban








Suu Kyi says hopes to lead Myanmar despite constitutiona...
Myanmar opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi has said she plans to lead the next government if her National League for Democracy (NLD) comes to power in the Nov. ...
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7. http://burmatimes.net/europes-rohin...he-international-criminal-court-in-the-hague/
8. http://www.rvisiontv.com/ec-seeks-info-over-rohingyas-from-3-ministries/

 

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9. Myanmar elections: 'Burmese cannot accept us' - BBC News








Myanmar elections: 'Burmese cannot accept us' - BBC News
Jonah Fisher reports on the struggles of Myanmar's Muslims as the country's election approaches.
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10. http://www.elevenmyanmar.com/local/2-kisses-2-obama-visit-said-usdp-joint-chairman-election-campaign
11. From slave to student: Myanmar migrants find abuse, opportunity in Thailand








From slave to student: Myanmar migrants find abuse, oppo...
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12. Aung San Suu Kyi calls for transparency in cross-border operations








Aung San Suu Kyi calls for transparency in cross-border ...
Myanmar opposition politician Aung San Suu Kyi has questioned the secrecy surrounding an operation against Naga militants along the Indo-Myanmar border by the...
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13. Myanmar Needs Peace Before Elections








Myanmar Needs Peace Before Elections
A new government can't accomplish much in a country wracked by civil war.
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14. Myanmar army attacks Shan State Army-North (SSA-N)








Myanmar army attacks Shan State Army-North (SSA-N)
Myanmar’s military launched an attack against the Shan State Army-North (SSA-N) in the country’s eastern Shan state on Tuesday, ...
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15. Myanmar's Ma Ba Tha monks flex their political muscle - BBC News








Myanmar's Ma Ba Tha monks flex their political muscle - ...
The most powerful political force in Myanmar's election has no candidates and will win no seats. But when the monks of the Ma Ba Tha speak, politicians listen.
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16. Myanmar to repatriate 105 Bangladeshi boatpeople








Myanmar to repatriate 105 Bangladeshi boatpeople
Myanmar authorities are making arrangement to repatriate 105 more verified Bangladeshi "boatpeople" left in a refugee camp in western Rakhine state, an official rep...
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17. Two abducted tourists, guide still traceless








Two abducted tourists, guide still traceless
Two tourists and their local guide, who were abducted in Bilaichhari upazila under Rangamati district on October 3, are yet to be rescued.
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Rohingya Muslims: Worry ahead for India
Thursday, June 4, 2015


In the year 2013 when the fight between the Rohingya Muslims and the Buddhists in Myanmar intensified, India began staring at a crisis. Several thousand Rohingya Muslims fled Myanmar and took shelter in India. While the Indian government has been sympathetic to the cause of the Rohingya Muslims there is a difficult task ahead. There are around 25,000 Rohingya Muslims who have taken shelter in India and not all of them have landed in the government certified refugee camps.

Controlling the spread of the Rohingya Muslims:

The government of India says that as long as the Rohingyas obtain a valid visa and a refugee card there is no major problem. However the issue is with those who are staying illegally. There is a dedicated refugee camp in Jammu and Kashmir and all formalities need to be completed there. The problem however is that the Rohinya Muslims are found in several other places such as Delhi, Noida, Mewat, Saharanpur, Muzaffarnagar, Aligarh, Hyderabad and Mumbai. These places do not have certified camps and many are living illegally without a valid visa or refugee card.

The headache for security agencies:

The influx has become a headache for the security agencies. Those without valid documents are extremely difficult to track. They are most likely to be targeted by religious groups and terrorist outfits. If the situation is not controlled then there is every chance of them turning out to be like the Bangladeshi refugees who were roped into the world of crime. If the Rohingya Muslims start taking shelter in places of their own choice, then it becomes a major problem. For the moment the Rohingya Muslims are in a desperate state and all they want is to return to their homeland. However with the violence in Myanmar turning from bad to worse, they are unable to get back to their homes immediately.

When terror comes tapping:

Let us face it, terrorist groups mean good to nobody. Both the Lashkar-e-Tayiba and the Al-Qaeda had raised the issue of the Rohingya Muslims last year and this had sent panic waves amongst the security agencies in India. These groups are likely to take advantage of their situation and try and rope them into their outfits. Many Rohingya Muslims would agree not out of choice but out of compulsion or desperation. They would continue to stay in India and in order to feed themselves and their families, they may just fall trap to the designs of these terrorist groups. In addition to this terrorist groups may also pick up a handful of youth train them and send them back to Myanmar to wage a war. This again would seem like a repeat of the Burdwan module which was preparing to stage attacks in Bangladesh from Indian soil.

We want to go back home:

So far there has been no instance of any Rohingya Muslims joining a terrorist group. There was however one instance when the National Investigating Agency picked up a Rohingya Muslim from Hyderabad in connection with the Burdwan blast. He was however let off as the NIA found no involvement. Mohamamd Haroon a Rohingya Muslim in Hyderabad tells oneindia that they only want to go back home. We are not familiar with the conditions here and the food habits are entirely different. We do not seem to be getting used to the conditions in India at all as we have spent all our lives in Myanmar. It is our desperation and if we go back now, we will all be killed he says. In Hyderabad alone there are around 1500 Rohingya Muslims who have taken shelter. Officials say that these people tend to take shelter in Muslim dominated cities or areas as they feel secure. However the lifestyle of an Indian Muslim and a Rohingya Muslim is completely different and hence the latter never gets used to the conditions. They have a similar religious faith, but their lifestyles are contrasting, an officer from Hyderabad also informed.

Read more at: http://www.oneindia.com/feature/rohingya-muslims-worry-ahead-for-india-1767313.html

If they want to go back Indian govt should pressurize Myanmar govt to take them back, I don't want a single Rohingya refugee in India.

Are Myanmar’s Rohingya Muslim Refugees a Threat to India?:- http://www.thequint.com/india/2015/06/15/myanmar-to-jammu-a-rohingyas-journey-to-a-place-called-home

Yes you give them shelter for basic needs but they will start to wage Jihad today or tomorrow !

 

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Being a major regional player with influence on BD and Burma, India is in a position to play a role here. However, India needs to weigh her options with various deals she has, commercial as well as security related, to be able to move forward. China the other major power is neck-deep in various deals with Burma so that she will always be guided by Burma's policy - which is one of committing massacres and rapes to exterminate this community from Arakan.

 

[GokuInd]

We have not business with Rohingyas - send them to their Muslim brother countries in the Gulf and Levant. Period.

 

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We have not business with Rohingyas - send them to their Muslim brother countries in the Gulf and Levant. Period.

Nope, they will evict the invading Bamars and free Arakan - for themselves and for the Rakhine compatriots.

 

[amoy]

IMO the Rohingya problem should be viewed in the context of Burmese oppression of all minority groups not Rohingyas alone. Many of minority hav been deprived of citizenship. Different ID cards have been issued, white, green, blue and so on with tiered entitlement as naked discrimination against the minority. Rohingyas even have none of them hence have been entirely zeroed out from politics. By so doing the military junta not maintains Burman dominance , but also enhances their grip of power in the name of nationalism.

Rohingyas would better join hands with other groups (except Arakan Buddhist neighbours of course) for their due rights together.

~~Still waters run deep. ~~from my MiPad using tapatalk

 

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IMO the Rohingya problem should be viewed in the context of Burmese oppression of all minority groups not Rohingyas alone. Many of minority hav been deprived of citizenship. Different ID cards have been issued, white, green, blue and so on with tiered entitlement as naked discrimination against the minority. Rohingyas even have none of them hence have been entirely zeroed out from politics. By so doing the military junta not maintains Burman dominance , but also enhances their grip of power in the name of nationalism.

Rohingyas would better join hands with other groups (except Arakan Buddhist neighbours of course) for their due rights together.

~~Still waters run deep. ~~from my MiPad using tapatalk

In her famous book, Freedom From Fear, Aung San Su Kyi asserts that whenever Burmans of the central region were strong, they invaded and colonized the peripheral states/peoples. Such occupation has always been bloody, tyrannical and destructive. These invasions saw the Burmese marauding into Assam / NE, Thailand, Cambodia and Southern China. And again when the Burmans were weak they withdrew into their abode in the central zone.

 

[amoy]

In her famous book, Freedom From Fear, Aung San Su Kyi asserts that whenever Burmans of the central region were strong, they invaded and colonized the peripheral states/peoples. Such occupation has always been bloody, tyrannical and destructive. These invasions saw the Burmese marauding into Assam / NE, Thailand, Cambodia and Southern China. And again when the Burmans were weak they withdrew into their abode in the central zone.

well, there have been a few major collusions btwn Burmans and Chinese . Burmans handed over Ming royalty who sought haven to Qing Dynasty. in WW2 Chinese expeditionary army was dispatched in to fight Japanese, with whom the puppet Aung Sang (Suu Kyi's father) collaborated, along with allied forces.

through 1950s ~ 1980s Chinese PLA chased drug warlords... China retaliated the military junta's persecution of Chinese by propping up ethnic minority militias along the border.

those being bygones, nowadays China shall be even more assertive for the regional peace. Burma seems a headache to the neighborhood.


~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~

 

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well, there have been a few major collusions btwn Burmans and Chinese . Burmans handed over Ming royalty who sought haven to Qing Dynasty. in WW2 Chinese expeditionary army was dispatched in to fight Japanese, with whom the puppet Aung Sang (Suu Kyi's father) collaborated, along with allied forces.

through 1950s ~ 1980s Chinese PLA chased drug warlords... China retaliated the military junta's persecution of Chinese by propping up ethnic minority militias along the border.

those being bygones, nowadays China shall be even more assertive for the regional peace. Burma seems a headache to the neighborhood.


~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~

Thank you.
Also to note, Kublai Kahan had sent in an army which conquered Burma and stayed put. This Chinese army had consisted of mostly Muslim soldiers led by a Muslim general. Their descendants are today found in Burma proper unlike Arakan where the Muslims trace back ancestry to Arabia of per-biblical days.

 

[amoy]

Thank you.
Also to note, Kublai Kahan had sent in an army which conquered Burma and stayed put. This Chinese army had consisted of mostly Muslim soldiers led by a Muslim general. Their descendants are today found in Burma proper unlike Arakan where the Muslims trace back ancestry to Arabia of per-biblical days.

Zheng He the great navigator and diplomat was muslim from Yunnan Province, of Persian descent.

Panthay muslims in Myanmar were from Yunnan fleeing Qing China after an uprising.

A Mongol prince forced a mass convervion of all his subordinates in Ningxia, which comprised main ancestry of Hui people today.

anyway regardless of whatever origin, Arabic or Bengali, they must conform to the mainsteam civilization and be harmonious with other communities wherever they settle down.

~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~

 

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Zheng He the great navigator and diplomat was muslim from Yunnan Province, of Persian descent.

Panthay muslims in Myanmar were from Yunnan fleeing Qing China after an uprising.

A Mongol prince forced a mass convervion of all his subordinates in Ningxia, which comprised main ancestry of Hui people today.

anyway regardless of whatever origin, Arabic or Bengali, they must conform to the mainsteam civilization and be harmonious with other communities wherever they settle down.

~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~

Yes, but Chinese being their closest friend till date (although the Americans have made huge advances), please implore them not to massacre these unfortunate people.

 

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Exclusive: "Strong evidence" of Genocide in Myanmar

 

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China courts Arakan MP with irresistible offer
By REUTERS 15 October 2015

A powerful ethnic nationalist politician from one of Burma’s poorest and most volatile regions said Chinese officials made him an irresistible offer during a recent visit to the country: Ask for anything, and we’ll give it to you.

Beijing’s courting of Aye Maung, chairman of the Arakan National Party (ANP), underscores how China is taking steps to protect its most strategic investments in Burma – twin oil and gas pipelines and a deep sea port – ahead of an unpredictable election in the Southeast Asian nation next month.

Such willingness to engage with opposition parties to secure its investments overseas represents a major shift in China’s non-interventionist foreign policy.

“We want China, or even America, or Singapore, if the Indian government invites me, we welcome it,” Aye Maung toldReuters. “We need so many investments for the development of our area.”

The ANP, an organisation of ethnic Arakanese [Rakhine] Buddhists that is riding a tide of anti-Muslim sentiment, is poised to make a near-clean sweep of Arakan State in what could be Burma’s first free and fair election in 25 years. There is speculation that Aye Maung could win the powerful post of chief minister of the state.

That makes him a key potential ally for Beijing, whose most important Burmese investments are located in the western state.

The fishing town of Kyaukphyu, racked by violence three years ago between ethnic Arakanese Buddhists and Muslim Rohingyas, is at the heart of China’s drive for new resources and trade routes.

In particular, new oil and gas pipelines from Kyaukphyu connect China’s southwestern province of Yunnan directly with the Indian Ocean, bypassing the narrow Malacca Strait, where a strong US naval presence has long worried Chinese policymakers.

Policy shift

According to Aye Maung, the ruling Chinese Communist Party invited him to visit Fujian and Guizhou provinces in July. At one meeting, he says an official from the party’s International Department told him China had only engaged with President Thein Sein’s ruling Union Solidarity and Development Party, Aung San Suu Kyi’s National League for Democracy, and the ANP.

“They told me: we have connected with three parties. You are the one party from all the ethnic groups in Myanmar [Burma],” Aye Maung told

 

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Rohingyas are basically of Bangladeshi origin, speaking a dialect originating in Chittagong district, who have settled over many years in Burma. The Islamic Ummah and Bangladesh must help their brethren by perhaps allowing them to settle in Bangladesh and places like Saudi Arabia if they are persecuted in Burma. Liberal secular democracies like Germany and US-UK can also help be resettling some of them.

 

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Rohingyas are basically of Bangladeshi origin, speaking a dialect originating in Chittagong district, who have settled over many years in Burma. The Islamic Ummah and Bangladesh must help their brethren by perhaps allowing them to settle in Bangladesh and places like Saudi Arabia if they are persecuted in Burma. Liberal secular democracies like Germany and US-UK can also help be resettling some of them.

Rohingyas are Arabs and semi Arabs settling in Arkan-BD coast since 50 BC when the Byzantine navigator Hippolaytus discovered the monsoon winds. When did the first Aryan arrive in SA?

 

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Rohingyas are Arabs and semi Arabs settling in Arkan-BD coast since 50 BC when the Byzantine navigator Hippolaytus discovered the monsoon winds. When did the first Aryan arrive in SA?

So Bangladeshis are Arabs then ?

 

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So Bangladeshis are Arabs then ?

Bangladeshis are mixture of Turki + Persi + Arabs ...

 

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Burma’s Million-Strong Rohingya Population Faces ‘Final Stages of Genocide,’ Says Report

By Rishi Iyengar
TIME
October 29, 2015

The long-persecuted ethnicity is on the verge of "mass annihilation," say experts, with new evidence indicating government complicity



Despite the U.S.-led rolling back of economic sanctions and internationally backed national elections taking place early next month, more than a million people in Burma are facing state-sponsored genocide, according to a new report.

The Rohingya Muslim community of the military-dominated Southeast Asian nation, which is now officially known as Myanmar, has been systematically persecuted and expunged from the national narrative — often at the behest of powerful extremist groups from the country’s majority Buddhist population and even government authorities — to the point where complete extermination is a possibility, according to a damning new study by the International State Crime Initiative (ISCI) at the Queen Mary University of London.

“The Rohingya face the final stages of genocide,” concludes the report.

ISCI uses noted genocide expert Daniel Feierstein’s framework of the six stages of genocide, outlined in his 2014 book Genocide as Social Practice, as a lens through which to view Burma. Through interviews with stakeholders on both sides of what it describes as ethnic cleansing, as well as media reports and leaked government documents, the report enumerates how the Rohingya have undergone the first four stages — stigmatization and dehumanization; harassment, violence and terror; isolation and segregation; systematic weakening — and are on the verge of “mass annihilation.” The sixth stage, which involves the “removal of the victim group from collective history,” is already under way in many respects, the report says.

Stricken from Burma’s 135 officially recognized ethnicities in 1982, the Rohingya have undergone decades of discrimination and disenfranchisement, albeit never to the degree they currently face. The Burmese government’s official position is that the Rohingya are interlopers from neighboring Bangladesh, despite many having lived in the country for generations, and it refuses to even acknowledge their collective name, preferring the loaded term “Bengali.” The report documents a systematic deterioration of the Rohingya’s situation since communal violence broke out in June 2012 in Burma’s Rakhine (formerly Arakan) state.

Although the Burmese government has painted the strife — which saw hundreds of people, mainly Muslims, slaughtered during two main waves of violence that June and October — as a spontaneous outbreak of long-mounting religious tensions following the reported rape of a Buddhist woman, the ISCI report presents compelling evidence that the attacks were premeditated and possibly even organized by local authorities.

Interviews with some of the perpetrators — none of whom have been prosecuted because of a supposed lack of concrete evidence — reveal that they were bused into Rakhine state’s capital city Sittwe from nearby villages, provided two free meals a day and told it was their “duty as Rakhine to participate in an attack on the Muslim population.”

There are also strong indications that the government not only allowed the violence to take place unabated for almost a week, but that police, military and other state security forces participated in the attacks themselves, the report says.

Since then, close to 140,000 Rohingya have been sequestered in squalid camps outside the state’s capital, heavily guarded and prevented from leaving by security forces. The 4,500 that remain in Sittwe reside in a run-down ghetto with similar restrictions on movement. A majority of the Rohingya, numbering about 800,000, are spread out across two townships in northern Rakhine state — another region completely blocked off from the outside world by the military.

A lot of the food rations sent by international aid organizations never make it to the Rohingya camps, and denial of access to adequate health care have turned them into hotbeds for malnutrition and disease. As a result of the apartheid-like conditions, the inhabitants of these camps are also largely prevented from receiving an education and earning any sort of livelihood.

“The abuses that the Rohingya are experiencing are at a level and scale that we have not seen elsewhere in Southeast Asia,” Matthew Smith, the founder and executive director of Bangkok-based nonprofit Fortify Rights, tells TIME. The human-rights organization has been documenting abuses in Burma, and Smith echoes the assertion that there is a strong reason to believe state-enabled ethnic cleansing is taking place in the country.

“The Rohingya don’t have to be annihilated for someone to be held responsible for the crime of genocide,” he says. “They [Burmese authorities] are creating conditions of life for over a million people that are designed to be destructive.”

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Children rest at a refugee camp in Bayeun, outside of Langsa, Indonesia, May 20. They were among the 25,000-plus Rohingya Muslim migrants who have fled reported persecution in Burma and Bangladesh this year by crossing the Indian Ocean in search of refugee status in Indonesia and Malaysia. (Photo: JAMES NACHTWEY)​

There are more than just physical aspects to the Rohingya’s plight — they have been stripped of their citizenship, with their children no longer being issued birth certificates and laws restricting their marriage and birth rate. The government also excluded the community from the 2014 census unless they registered as “Bengali.”

They have also been denied the right to participate in the upcoming Nov. 8general elections, a complete reversal from the last election in 2010 when Rohingya voted in large numbers and some were elected to the legislature, as the military-backed government yoked their animosity to the Rakhine to see of the challenge of ethnic parties aligned with the latter.

No political party has countered the Islamophobic national narrative, with even the liberal National League for Democracy (NLD) of Nobel laureate Aung San Suu Kyi going to the polls without a single Muslim candidate, and the Rohingya’s deplorable situation will likely endure no matter the election’s result.

“There will be no change for the Rohingya,” says Shwe Maung, a Rohingya lawmaker from northern Rakhine state who has been barred from re-election. “The government is totally denying our community, totally denying our ethnicity,” he tells TIME. “Whatever is happening is with the ultimate objective of genocide or cleansing, which is to finish these people … and to drive them out.”

In the absence of a light at the end of the tunnel, there is a growing likelihood that Rohingya will take to the seas en masse in order to flee their country — like thousands did earlier this year — in the coming months, falling pray to people-smugglers with often deadly consequences.

“Many Rohingya tell us that their options are to stay in Rakhine state and face death or flee the country,” Smith says. “Many of them know that attempting to flee the country is in itself life-threatening, and they’re willing to take those risks because the situation in Rakhine state is as bad as it is.”

The previous exodus, which reached its height this June, was not only enabled and encouraged but also enforced by government authorities, interviews conducted by al-Jazeera for its new documentary Genocide Agenda reveal.

“They said, ‘You are Muslim and you are not allowed to live in Rakhine state. Get on the boat and flee wherever you want,’” an elderly Rohingya man says, recounting the presence of members of Burma’s security forces, army and police who forced them into the vessels. When his elder brother tried to resist, Rakhine Buddhists hacked him to death with a sword on the spot, he tells al-Jazeera before breaking down in tears.

The documentary, released on Monday, is the culmination of a yearlong investigation by al-Jazeera and contains stark evidence of government intent to, at the very least, promote an anti-Muslim sentiment among the Burmese population. Classified government documents obtained by the news channel’s investigative unit warn of “countrywide communal violence between Muslims and Burmans” being planned at a mosque in Burma’s capital, Rangoon, (violence that ultimately did not take place), and a presentation given to new army recruits contains sections on the “Fear of Extinction of Race” detailing how “Bengali Muslims … infiltrate the people to propagate the religion” and aim to increase their population and wipe out the Burmese Buddhists.

The film’s findings, as well as Fortify Rights’ research, were also the subject of an eight-month analysis by the Lowenstein Clinic at Yale Law School. The clinic examined the Rohingya’s circumstances according to the 1948 International Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide and precedents set by international law, and concluded that “strong evidence” exists to substantiate the claim that genocide is being carried out in Burma with intent to destroy the Rohingya.

The clinic’s report, released on Thursday, calls for a commission of inquiry by the U.N. Human Rights Council to conduct an “urgent, comprehensive and independent investigation” into alleged genocidal acts perpetrated against the Rohingya.

“The international community needs to understand in a deeper way, in a clearer way, that the abuses being perpetrated against the Rohingya are widespread, systematic and a matter of state policy,” Smith tells TIME. “The international community needs to take action. These abuses have been going on for decades.”

Neither TIME nor al-Jazeera was able to obtain a response to the allegations from the Burmese government despite repeated attempts, though Deputy Information Minister Ye Htut told us last year: “We never pay attention to organizations such as Fortify Rights, which are openly lobby groups for the Bengalis.”

Such attitudes do not bode well for the Rohingya, whose plight is grimly summed up by a woman living in one of the camps interviewed by ISCI.

“If the international community can’t help us, please drop a bomb on us and kill all of us,” she says.
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