Rakibools Shoot BSF Jawans on their Backs as they're returning from a Flag Meet

Discussion in 'Internal Security' started by tarunraju, Oct 17, 2019.

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What Should Be the Indian Response

  1. Diplomatic Option: Get Bangladesh to Apologize and Courtmartial those Involved

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  2. Tactical Option: Indiscriminately Kill One BGB personnel, preferably headshot, and injure another

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  1. ladder

    ladder Senior Member Senior Member

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    From 1947 till 1971 and many years after that East Pakistan/ Bangladesh wasn't exactly friendly. And Chicken's neck wasn't wider either.

    So doomsday prediction of cuttings off Chicken's neck just shows that you have studied India's security scenarios in all maturity .
    Since I can't match your level maturity in predicting security scenarios, let's end the debate here. Have your views, let me have mine. Thanks.
     
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  2. Violent peaceful

    Violent peaceful Fuck the mods for not deleting my account . Senior Member

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    There are two scenarios ,
    1. If India decides to kill a few ,then ball will be in bangladeshis court ,either it will settle down after a period or whole of indo -bangla border will become active which will cause problems to us initially but in long run smuggling activities will come drastically down and we will shoot the illegal smugglers.

    2. We dont go for kill or even if we kill but dont announce it, the illegal bangladeshis residing in bengal ,assam ,bihar aka bengali and asam and bihari muslims will be even bolder and fearless then they are now and hindus confidence will further erode ,
    Bengali muslims are already causing so many riots ,love jehads etc and have made almost every hindu festival bloody or humiliating will go even farther.

    So, i guess killing a few then announce it with a lie that they fired onthenand then push for peace and wait for bangladeshis reactions ,

    And deep state if there is one has to think very seriously about genocide in bangladesh ,assam and bihar ,
    UP should be next .
    Laws have to be passed which are truly secular hence takes on islam.
     
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  3. aarav

    aarav जय परशुराम‍। Senior Member

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    BC Bangladeshi ab hamare jawano ko maarne ka baad celebrate kr rhe hai or yeh FIR likwa rha hai in bc Bangladeshi ka visa band kro
     
  4. tarunraju

    tarunraju Sanathan Pepe Moderator

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  5. bose

    bose Senior Member Senior Member

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    We have failed BSF and the country as a whole ... It is clear that BGB is at fault and they started the firing inspite of the orange flag to show intent for a flag meeting between forces for the release of the fisherman ...

    Now it should be we Indian be in offensive rather for some strange reason we kept quite and the national news papers have started giving Bangladeshi perspective without verifying the actual events that happened ...

    Bangladeshis are very clever and cunning now they want to defuse the situation with sweet talks ...

    Just like Bangladeshis were celebrating when India lost in the just concluded semi Final of cricket World cup in England ... Now also they are celebrating the killing of BSF Jawan as a victory ...

    India have to retaliate and sent the dead bodies of BGD and Bangladesh to show their nation what will happen if you you do these types of badmashis ... Mind it ... irrespective of good relationship with Hasina ...

    I may sound like a war mongerer but it is essential
     
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    afako Hindufying India Senior Member

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    FIR against Border Guard Bangladesh over BSF jawan's killing

    TOI.
     
  7. vishnugupt

    vishnugupt Regular Member

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    Don't invoke another fool when we had Gandhi already. Fools who think the pen is mightier than the sword actually had never faced the barrel of AK-47.
    Why do you think Bangladesh will go for war if you shoot back 10 of its soldiers?? If yes, then Bangladesh has better self-respect than us
    Take Israel which undertook many military campaigns over civilian's murder. fear of 100% retaliation from Israel makes Arab shit in pants.
    Russian diplomats kidnapped in Lebanon. in response, Russia gifted pair of the testicle to the head of terrorists belong to his family member which resulted in terrorists were begging to Russia take back diplomats because they were fearing what would happen if somebody else killed diplomats. it has been 30 years nobody dared to kidnap Russian diplomats.
    Our western neighbour or any Islamic country is suffering due to Islamic ideology not because of showing spine.
    Do you believe Pakistan return Abhinandan due to our diplomacy or Kadi ninda?? No. Abhinandan returned because India's Missile attack was imminent over Pakistan
     
  8. Flying Dagger

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    What we face isn't a border issue between Canada or USA or Mexico it is neither China and Indian border.

    This is not the first time either

    We helped Bangladesh take action against shakti/shanti bahini in late 70s where most of the tribal Hindus were against Bangladeshi Muslim forcing their identity on them.

    We have basically acted like a coward and jaichand to our own people. Due to which Bengal became a mess illegal inside India became the lord. Border areas of Bengal and other states have suffered and paid so much due to this it's unexplainable.

    And what makes you think Bangladesh won't turn on us. They are preparing and doing everything against Hindus out there while we get lecture on world politics.

    China also have enemy all around but they don't shy away from making their statement heard. Bangladesh need to be tamed they will attack us if not today then later.

    It is still the age of empires around us . Mr Xi is life time emperor of China and Muslim have Caliphate to establish.

    The weeks are never forgiven in the history they are mocked and killed . Bangladesh is a ticking time bomb from east and we are giving up Bengal and other areas to keep them happy .
     
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  9. tarunraju

    tarunraju Sanathan Pepe Moderator

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    As I mentioned earlier, the tactical option will cause a cycle of violence in the short term, but in the intermediate- and long-term, it will make those rakibool monkeys fear/respect the BSF, and more importantly, teach them the hard way what not to do in a flag-meeting. This is a more sustainable solution.

    The diplomatic option will "diffuse" the current situation, but will not fix BGB's attitude. Nothing long-term ever comes out of this "vasudeiva kutubakam" bunkam.

    Time to load some Vidhwansaks with hollow-points.

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  10. Kra

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    Retaliation is not an option anymore. At least not a good one. As for the fact that we have failed bsf, we we failed hell lot of our institutions for political goals. Agree with you there.
     
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    Sorry Brother, I have to agree to disagree with you.

    I would have considered your thoughts if the Bangladeshis have arrested that rogue BGB personal and have taken concrete steps like an apology. but you see their government is justifying their force and just wanted to defuse temporarily with some sweet talks ...

    As a self respecting nation we can not take this type of behavior from a nation for whom we have given our blood for their freedom ...

    The best possible option as I see at this point of time is that since GOI has maintained silence post the tragic incident too long and it is since more than two days over ... I would suggest GOI continue to maintain silence and give a free hand to BSF to avenge the killing and continue treat it as a happening of a local nature ...

    I can assure you one single shot at BGB will make the Bangladeshis drop their lungis ...
     
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    Do you know about inertia in physics? Well there is very high inertia against acting against banglabros. You should know how bad things are when a bsf jawan was suspended and arrested for shooting an illegal immigrant.
    Now there was a small window during that incident that we could have disproportionately retaliated and then descalated the matter but unfortunately that didn't happen because the decision maker realised that the entire might of state will come down on him .

    On the surface we have good relations with Bangladesh. If we initiate military action now after 2 days of kvetching to avenge an "accident" know how will this look .

    We can always covertly do things but then it will be kind of pointless. Bodycount is something that hasn't really mattered to mudslimes.

    The best way to go is pressure hasina to initiate action against the perpetrator. If we had a half competent information warfare ministry, a bunch of reports or articles at world news orgs would have popped up by now.
     
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  14. tarunraju

    tarunraju Sanathan Pepe Moderator

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    This is it. Amit Shah is going for the tactical option. Throughout the border India will maintain an aggressive stance, and keep them guessing. At a place and time they least expect, we will hit BGB.

    BSF has a large stock of AMRs and ace marksmen. Ideally the unit mates of the BSF martyr will be given the opportunity to take revenge.

    After the revenge Amit Shah will dial his Bangladeshi counterpart to talk peace. This is his MO.
     
  15. Akula

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    That BSF guy was shown in the Nat Geo documentary on BSF.
     
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  16. Kra

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    If doing their routine job is the tactical option then i greatly worry about the security of this country.
     
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    After few victories on international forum now we rely mostly on diplomatic powers. We are soft power and tit for tat reply does not suit us. That can be an example of dhimmi ideology.

    Look example of Nepal and Maldives . In Maldives we got successful but only after changing their government. They told us to lift out chopper, exile our backed high persons. In Nepal we still not able to achieve what we needed. They given less constituency to lower Himalayan people which are close to us. We protested, blocked them and failed miserably

    We as a giant nation never fully influenced our neighbours for longer periods. Soft power projection is not solution of everything , sometimes nation have to stand up and should do little and impactful to leave a mark.

    These incidents will keep happening. We might be looking for some diplomatic channel. If Ms Hasina is so favourable to us then why BGB not understand this, are they operating on their own. They do have separate economy and source of income, and if it so then they needed a lesson. I am afraid of growing confidence of these small group (which works against their national alignment). We must leave a deep mark which should be remembered for ages
     
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    I think it was a planned hit by *enemy* to see how willing we will be to escalate on two fronts.
     
  20. Absolut_Vodka

    Absolut_Vodka Lanat-e-paki, Hila-le-Imtiaz awardee

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    I read it too, their propaganda poster of "we don't serve tea". These Muslims don't want development and jobs, they have thirst for blood and violence. Seems like lungis are bored of consistent GDP growth and peace. They are asking for bankruptcy and failed state like Pakistan.

    Well we can't be an obstacle to their dreams. RSS and BJP aren't pushing for akhand Bharat like these Muslims are pushing for.

    Lungis should be ready to spread their legs. Their nagin dance may come to rude halt sooner. Plus this will ease job of NRC and halt corruption at border.
     

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