Quick Reaction Missile to be developed by BDL and DRDO

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  1. HariPrasad-1

    HariPrasad-1 Senior Member Senior Member

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    30 km...................................
     
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    Neil Senior Member Senior Member

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    can anyone explain major difference between this system and Akash?
     
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    Well QRSAM will be highly mobile and its more to take down the Aircrafts,Helicopters and UAVs..Akash where as can handle even all the three plus Air launched missiles

    QRSAM will have 360* coverage ..Akash don t have the 360* coverage if i am right ..

     
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    HariPrasad-1 Senior Member Senior Member

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    duel impulse engine in place of Ramjet. Service cealing low. Tube launch against launch from stand. Low weight compared to akash. Terminal phase uses seeker opposite to Akash, Low weight around 150 KG against 700 KG of akash.
     
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    Does this mean we are dropping Akash and moving with LR, MR, and SR-SAM?
     
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    Akash is going nowhere. India has huge gaps in air defense and we are still upgrading our old sams. Akash is a cheap Sam and useful for defence of fixed assets. QR Sam is for mobile defence.
     
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    abingdonboy Senior Member Senior Member

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    There's no reason why the AKASH wouldn't have 360* coverage, its launcher has a swiveling platform, just like QRSAM.
     
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    I believe media reports talk about 360 degree radar coverage..the platform can swivel 360 degrees..but I am not sure
     
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    Lets have some facts clear over here. When we talk about SR-SAM, MR-SAM, LR-SAM we are talkking about theatre defence. Akash is an MR-SAM. But when we talk about QR-SAM, we are talking about point defence. The latest QR-SAM is Astra based.
    SR-SAM, MR-SAM, LR-SAM, QR-SAM is all about layered air defence. SPYDER is a part of it. Its good for us that we have been able to develop a point defence weapon unlike AKASH which has been a predominantly Theatre defence weapon and IAF had gone for SPYDER for point defence role.
     
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    Not sure how you can call the AKASH a MRSAM with just 30km range.
     
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    Adioz शक्तिः दुर्दम्येच्छाशक्त्याः आगच्छति Senior Member

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    IMHO, SRSAM, MRSAM and LRSAM are deployed in arrays (like a trapezoidal array) to give provide area air defence. QRSAMs are mostly used to defend maneuver forces, and therefore is mobile enough. Other SAM systems move periodically and setup defences at new locations as the rear echelon moves ahead. QRSAM provides continuous cover to a continuously moving Armoured column.
    An analogy in infantry terms would be a defensive line that is mostly static (analogous to SRSAM, MRSAM and LRSAM), and a Combat patrol that is meant to probe for gaps and hence is smaller, mobile and offensive in intent (analogous to QRSAM).
     
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    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    When i talk to drdo guys, they said that Akash is for zero to 30 kms one missile within this range. Russians have different systems for each range.
     
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    That way, where you would keep BARAK 8? With 500 mtr interception range its a point defence as well as with 90 km interception range, its an area defence or theatre defence as well.

    These terms does depends on the theatre in which they do operate. AKASH is not been deployed by IN, but instead they had gone for BARAK and BARAK 8. Now these two missiles does cover the whole defence strategy for IN, but as far as IA and IAF is considered, they do have a layered air defence system and AKASH with 30 km maximum range does fits in MR-SAM category.
     
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    Just sharing couple of tweets of Sjha which answers multiple of questions being discussed/asked.

    QRSAM is meant to provide air defence cover to the Indian Army's strike formations
    and has the capability to fire from short halts.



    The Indian Army's Air Defence SAM inventory recapitalization is spread across five major programs, viz Akash, MRSAM, SRSAM, QRSAM, VSHORADS.

     
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    Akash have 18km altitude ceiling, while its almost 3 times lower for QR-SAM.
     
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    BARAK-8 is a MRSAM, just as IA and IAF refer to it, AKASH is a SRSAM, look at how it is being employed.
     
  17. abingdonboy

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    QRSAM is primarily meant to take down low flying UAVs, helos, a/c and missiles for the IA, it fits perfectly in the combat doctrine of IA. For high flying targets the IAF will take care of them
     
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    QR SAM is primarily intended to defend the army columns during both offensive and defensive maneuvers from enemy airborne assets (flying in CAS role).
     
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    No Akash has a very high ceiling of 20 KM. We are developing the extended version of Akash.
     
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    India's New QRSAM




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