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Protests over controversial Prophet Mohammad film spread
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Keep publishing one cartoon a day and you'll have Youm-e-Ishq-Rasool holidays 365 days a year....
Altaf bhai rocks. Some one is needed to protect the Muhajir community from the pathans and the punjabis..
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I heard its still available in YT even though the Govt has officially banned it. A simple google search should give you that.
But dont share in any social media.
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Husain Haqqani: Muslim Rage Is About Politics, Not Religion
I don't agree with the article. He's blaming everything on Colonial rule with usual reference to "Golden Age of Islam". Some extracts:
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Men of religion have often slandered each other's faiths. Islam has endured its share of criticism and abuse over the centuries, especially from Christians, against whom they fought for control of the Levant and the southern corners of Europe during the Crusades and the Ottoman wars. The 14th-century Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaeologus hurled the ultimate insult at Muslims when he declared that everything Muhammad brought was evil, "such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." Historically, Muslims returned the favor by pointing out the flaws in other religions and outlining their own perfect faith. Muslim emperors ruled over large non-Muslim populations while Muslim preachers and Sufi mystics worked to proselytize and win converts to Islam. But there is no record in those days of mob violence against foreign envoys or traders in retaliation for blasphemy against Muhammad or Islam allegedly committed by Islam's enemies in distant lands.
The phenomenon of outrage over insults to Islam and its final prophet is a function of modern-era politics. It started during Western colonial rule, with Muslim politicians seeking issues to mobilize their constituents. Secular leaders focused on opposing foreign domination, and Islamists emerged to claim that Islam is not merely a religion but also a political ideology. Threats to the faith became a rallying cry for the Islamists, who sought wedge issues to define their political agenda. To this day, Islamists are often the ones who draw attention to otherwise obscure attacks on Islam and then use those attacks to muster popular support. The effort is often aided by Islamophobes hoping to create their own wedges by portraying Islam as a threat to Western civilization. Conservative and practicing Muslims who are not Islamists are caught in the middle, along with scholarly commentators on Islamic history and tradition who are not Islamophobes.
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An early prototype of these mass-mobilization campaigns centered on Rangeela Rasool (Playboy Prophet), a salacious version of Muhammad's life. Published in British India in 1927, the controversial book was hardly a bestseller. In fact it went mostly unnoticed until Muslim politicians encountered it two years later and complained. The British authorities arrested and tried the book's publisher, Rajpal, only to acquit him. Agitation by Muslim groups encouraged a young illiterate carpenter by the single name Ilmuddin to stab the publisher to death in Lahore. Ilmuddin was given the title of ghazi ("warrior for the faith") by Islamist political groups and was defended in court, albeit on technical grounds (and unsuccessfully), by Muhammad Ali Jinnah, who would later become the founder of Pakistan. The British amended the Indian penal code to add punishment for blasphemy and incitement of religious hatred.
Pakistan Daily Life
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There is nothing in Islamic tradition that requires Muslims to come out in the streets and throw rocks or set things on fire every time they hear of someone insulting their faith. Like Jewish and Christian scriptures, Islam's sacred texts speak of divine retribution as well as of God's mercy. References to holy war are interspersed with exhortations to charity, kindness toward others, and respect for life. Every chapter of the Quran begins with the words "In the name of Allah (God), the most compassionate, the most merciful," encouraging believers to practice mercy over retribution.
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Since falling under Western colonial rule, the Muslim world has developed a narrative of grievance. The view is shared by Islamists, who consider Islam a political ideology, and other Muslims who don't. Like all national and community narratives, it has some elements that are true. It is a historical fact that the Muslim world spent centuries in ascendance before Western influence rose, and Muslim power declined. And there is no question that Western imperialism in the 19th and early 20th centuries was far from benign. It divided Muslims, denigrated them, and used modern technology—from the printing press to electronic media and the moving image—to render a caricature of a once-preeminent civilization and the faith that rests at its heart.
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A thousand years ago, Muslims led the world in the field of science and mathematics. Today they are noticeably absent from any list of recent inventors and innovators in science and technology. Since 1901, only two Muslims have won a Nobel Prize in the sciences, and one of them (Pakistan's Dr. Abdus Salam, Physics, 1979) is not deemed a Muslim in his home country because of his association with the Ahmadiyya sect. Not coincidentally, only a handful of Muslim-majority countries fulfill the criteria for freedom set by the independent group Freedom House. Even the "Arab Spring" seems unlikely to change that harsh reality.
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Husain Haqqani: Muslim Rage Is About Politics, Not Religion - Newsweek and The Daily Beast
I don't agree with the article. He's blaming everything on Colonial rule with usual reference to "Golden Age of Islam". Some extracts:
==
Men of religion have often slandered each other's faiths. Islam has endured its share of criticism and abuse over the centuries, especially from Christians, against whom they fought for control of the Levant and the southern corners of Europe during the Crusades and the Ottoman wars. The 14th-century Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaeologus hurled the ultimate insult at Muslims when he declared that everything Muhammad brought was evil, "such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." Historically, Muslims returned the favor by pointing out the flaws in other religions and outlining their own perfect faith. Muslim emperors ruled over large non-Muslim populations while Muslim preachers and Sufi mystics worked to proselytize and win converts to Islam. But there is no record in those days of mob violence against foreign envoys or traders in retaliation for blasphemy against Muhammad or Islam allegedly committed by Islam's enemies in distant lands.
The phenomenon of outrage over insults to Islam and its final prophet is a function of modern-era politics. It started during Western colonial rule, with Muslim politicians seeking issues to mobilize their constituents. Secular leaders focused on opposing foreign domination, and Islamists emerged to claim that Islam is not merely a religion but also a political ideology. Threats to the faith became a rallying cry for the Islamists, who sought wedge issues to define their political agenda. To this day, Islamists are often the ones who draw attention to otherwise obscure attacks on Islam and then use those attacks to muster popular support. The effort is often aided by Islamophobes hoping to create their own wedges by portraying Islam as a threat to Western civilization. Conservative and practicing Muslims who are not Islamists are caught in the middle, along with scholarly commentators on Islamic history and tradition who are not Islamophobes.
===
An early prototype of these mass-mobilization campaigns centered on Rangeela Rasool (Playboy Prophet), a salacious version of Muhammad's life. Published in British India in 1927, the controversial book was hardly a bestseller. In fact it went mostly unnoticed until Muslim politicians encountered it two years later and complained. The British authorities arrested and tried the book's publisher, Rajpal, only to acquit him. Agitation by Muslim groups encouraged a young illiterate carpenter by the single name Ilmuddin to stab the publisher to death in Lahore. Ilmuddin was given the title of ghazi ("warrior for the faith") by Islamist political groups and was defended in court, albeit on technical grounds (and unsuccessfully), by Muhammad Ali Jinnah, who would later become the founder of Pakistan. The British amended the Indian penal code to add punishment for blasphemy and incitement of religious hatred.
Pakistan Daily Life
===
There is nothing in Islamic tradition that requires Muslims to come out in the streets and throw rocks or set things on fire every time they hear of someone insulting their faith. Like Jewish and Christian scriptures, Islam's sacred texts speak of divine retribution as well as of God's mercy. References to holy war are interspersed with exhortations to charity, kindness toward others, and respect for life. Every chapter of the Quran begins with the words "In the name of Allah (God), the most compassionate, the most merciful," encouraging believers to practice mercy over retribution.
===
Since falling under Western colonial rule, the Muslim world has developed a narrative of grievance. The view is shared by Islamists, who consider Islam a political ideology, and other Muslims who don't. Like all national and community narratives, it has some elements that are true. It is a historical fact that the Muslim world spent centuries in ascendance before Western influence rose, and Muslim power declined. And there is no question that Western imperialism in the 19th and early 20th centuries was far from benign. It divided Muslims, denigrated them, and used modern technology—from the printing press to electronic media and the moving image—to render a caricature of a once-preeminent civilization and the faith that rests at its heart.
===
A thousand years ago, Muslims led the world in the field of science and mathematics. Today they are noticeably absent from any list of recent inventors and innovators in science and technology. Since 1901, only two Muslims have won a Nobel Prize in the sciences, and one of them (Pakistan's Dr. Abdus Salam, Physics, 1979) is not deemed a Muslim in his home country because of his association with the Ahmadiyya sect. Not coincidentally, only a handful of Muslim-majority countries fulfill the criteria for freedom set by the independent group Freedom House. Even the "Arab Spring" seems unlikely to change that harsh reality.
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Husain Haqqani: Muslim Rage Is About Politics, Not Religion - Newsweek and The Daily Beast
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I never cease to wonder at the depths of idiocy of some people who are whipped so easily into a murderous frenzy by a mere video. If we think in terms of evolution, these people have to be the lowest forms of humanity......or worse, since not even chimps will rampage, destroy things or kill each other because they disliked a video.
The violence spread in Ahmedabad too.
Today there was a bandh called by shop keepers of muslim area. As usual they started pelting stones, burnt police jeep and bikes. What provoked them to resort violence is still a mystery for police. they had a meeting with area leaders but they told they will go ahead with the bandh.
It is interesting they have done this on the same day SG arrived in gujarat.
Today there was a bandh called by shop keepers of muslim area. As usual they started pelting stones, burnt police jeep and bikes. What provoked them to resort violence is still a mystery for police. they had a meeting with area leaders but they told they will go ahead with the bandh.
It is interesting they have done this on the same day SG arrived in gujarat.
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This could be to malign state govt/create trouble before Assembly Elections ?
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Whatever intentions...It will certainly help BJP as it will consolidate hindu votes in their favour. As usual congress will blame this on Modi govt.
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Re: Anti-Islam film protests spread to Sydney as protesters clash with police outside
We have to stop the conversions done by the christian missionaries and for this we have to bring stringent laws for punishing them..........
What about the christians, they too are doing the same thing but in a different manner, by luring everyone using the money...........
We have to stop the conversions done by the christian missionaries and for this we have to bring stringent laws for punishing them..........
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Apparently Modi and the Hindus are the worst nightmare for all secularists JUST as Jews and Israelis are a terror for Pakistanis.
I was very amused when I noticed this similar fear in both of them.
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Re: Anti-Islam film protests spread to Sydney as protesters clash with police outside
Even though I am against conversion using money or food, I dont agree with bring stigent laws against conversion.. People have to right to choose whatever religion he wants and also to know about other religions.. It doesnt hurt some one to learn about other religion and convert to that if he think it is right..
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Re: Anti-Islam film protests spread to Sydney as protesters clash with police outside
And why would Xtians want people who are basically converting for money ?
Basically you are saying people are greedy and lured by money and we should stop it ? Wouldn't you be happy to get rid of such people ?
And why would Xtians want people who are basically converting for money ?
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Re: Anti-Islam film protests spread to Sydney as protesters clash with police outside
Well there are reports of people lured to christanity with money and food..to an extend its because of greed.but mainly because of hunger.. The missionaries mainly target the tribal people and backward people for conversions
Well there are reports of people lured to christanity with money and food..to an extend its because of greed.but mainly because of hunger.. The missionaries mainly target the tribal people and backward people for conversions
Well, there was a news in Kerala about a message send to all catholic churches from their head that their main aim is to make India a Christian country,, I dont know what are they smoking now a days but I am sure it will damage the religious harmony (if it is still there) in this country
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That shows the greed of the cheistians in INDIA, who want to make this nation a christian nation, but they cannot achieve that......
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Dnt blame whole Christians for the action of some.. Every religion has these kind of lunatics... Its come with the multi ethinic & religious society
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