Project P15B Visakhapatnam class destroyer

[Ripples]

They are not even close to what we were in the '70s. In 10 years the IN alone will have as larger an air force as the PAF.

Even though I fully agree with you on the first part of your statement but are you serious about the " In 10 years the IN alone will have as larger an air force as the PAF" ? Will you please explain this of me.

 

[Zebra]

What will be the Project 15B class named as? Read somewhere that it will be christened the Bangalore class. Is this a confirmed news?

Published on Jul 25, 2014

 

[Pulkit]

In 10 years the IN alone will have as larger an air force as the PAF" ? Will you please explain this of me.

by the end of next ten years there will be hopefully 3 Aircraft carriers operational in IN....and another A&N Islands will be also there ..... which is also compared to be the one which cannot sink....

few other Navy bases are also getting developed... which means obviously we will be having larger fleet of aircrafts ....

on A/C alone we will be needing more than 125 Aircrafts (approximately)....

which is in itself 6 squads.....

So we can assume that IN will be operating close to 250 Aircrafts again app .... so PAF will always be in trouble.....

 

[p2prada]

Even though I fully agree with you on the first part of your statement but are you serious about the " In 10 years the IN alone will have as larger an air force as the PAF" ? Will you please explain this of me.

The IN's immediate plan is to have 100 fighters by the end of the decade, though it doesn't look like they will achieve it as soon due to delays with the LCA. They will add 200-300 fighters by 2030. The total air wing of the IN will be 300-400 by 2020. And double that by 2030, roughly the same size as the PAF. And IN's aircraft will be much superior, so technically more powerful than PAF. Not to mention, PAF will still be operating obsolete aircraft while IN's air fleet will be at 100% hi-tech and brand new.

The IN will eventually operate 45 (44) Mig-29K, ~55 LCA, 80+ MRCA (Rafale or F-35), and these are immediate plans, meant to be signed by 2022. The next 5 year plan (2022-2027) will see new aircraft deals. IN also need tons of helicopters and surveillance aircraft like the P-8. The P-8 numbers alone could reach 24 by the end of the decade, not to mention another two dozen MRMR, along with transport aircraft like the IL-214 and so on. We are expecting a new deal for E-2D Hawkeyes for the navy, even these could be a dozen or more.

IN will be getting a pretty big boost in the defense budget next year, the capital budget will be bigger than IAF's. So that's an added advantage.

There's a lot of good things coming up as far as the air wing is concerned.

 

[AVERAGE INDIAN]

are we going to say good bye to rajput class destroyers after we induct the 15B project destroyers?

 

[Bheeshma]

Rajputs will go by 2020 also G class frigates.We need P-17a ASAP.

 

[aditya g]

Any recent pictures from mazagaon docks?

 

[ladder]

Any recent pictures from mazagaon docks?

First one will be launched this year. Likely around May, June.

 

[karn]

First one will be launched this year. Likely around May, June.

Well you sure are optimistic . I doubt any of the project 15 Bs will touch the water before Kochi and Chennai finish sea trials.

 

[Bheeshma]

Launching can be done fast. Its the commissioning that needs to be speed-ed up.

 

[rohit b3]

Launching can be done fast. Its the commissioning that needs to be speed-ed up.

Modular construction involves completing most of the internal work within each block and then joining the blocks together into the hull for the launch I guess? If 40,000 tons INS Vikrant using modular construction can be launched in 4.5 years (Feb 2009- Aug 2013) and outfitting can be completed in 3 years(2014-2016), before the trial period...... We should have good news for the 8000 tons Destroyers.

 

[Bheeshma]

Lets hope so. We also need the P-17a's ASAP.

 

[sgarg]

I agree that the ship construction times have come down due to outsourcing of modules and better facilities at shipyards. A frigate should be completed in 4 years time or less.

 

[shiphone]

Any recent pictures from mazagaon docks?

the first P15B's status in MDL about one month ago(Jan 23 ,2015)...

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the MDL's so called "Modular construction method" seems to be at primary stage...we might be able to see the true modern 'Modular construction method' during the second P15B vessel construction since the MDL's module construction workshop hadn't been finished yet when the first P15B began the building progress in 2013...so far the first P15B has been on the slipway for more than 16 months(the slipway assembly phase began earlier than the formal Keel laying ceremony in Oct 2013 ) and it would take another a couple of months to be launched..

nowadays, the 'unit construction method' or 'super block method of hull construction' should be most advanced shipbuilding method which could be seen during the construction of Royal Navy Elizabeth II carrier, the French Mistral-class for Russian Navy and Spain built Canberra class of Royal Australian Navy...etc...

for example,a 6000 ton's class Destroyer could be built in three "Units" or "Super Blocks" and then these 'blocks' were moved to the Slipway or Dry Dock for the final assembly. so the time of the Slipway assembly phase could be reduced to about 6-8 months. the outfitting phase after the launch would take another 18 months including the sea trials...
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the one of the three 'super hull blocks' of a destroyer under construction besides the slipway(the other two were assembling on the slipway)...the rest are the modules of the superstructure which would be hoisted onto the assembled hull blocks...

 

[rohit b3]

the first P15B's status in MDL about one month ago(Jan 23 ,2015)...

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the MDL's so called "Modular construction method" seems to be at primary stage...we might be able to see the true modern 'Modular construction method' during the second P15B vessel construction since the MDL's module assembly workshop hadn't been finished yet when the first P15B began the building progress in 2013...so far the first P15B has been on the slipway for more than 16 months(the slipway assembly phase began earlier than the formal Keel laying ceremony in Oct 2013 ) and it would take another a couple of months to be launched..

nowadays, the 'unit construction method' or 'super block method of hull construction' should be most advanced shipbuilding method which could be seen during the construction of Royal Navy Elizabeth II carrier, the French Mistral-class for Russian Navy and Spain built Canberra class of Royal Australian Navy...etc...

for example,a 6000 ton's class Destroyer could be built in three "Units" or "Super Blocks" and then these 'blocks' were moved to the Slipway or Dry Dock for the final assembly. so the time of the Slipway assembly phase could be reduced to about 6-8 months. the outfit phase after the launch would take another 18 months including the sea trials...

the one of the three 'super hull blocks' of a destroyer under construction...the rest are the modules of the superstructure which would be hoisted onto the assembled hull blocks...

So, in short, is it possible to launch the first ship by mid this year?
Also, do the current infrastructure at MDL allow 'unit construction method' or 'super block method of hull construction?

 

[karn]

the first P15B's status in MDL about one month ago(Jan 23 ,2015)...

Thats informative ... Did you read it somewhere or was this based on your own analysis or the analysis of your colleagues ?

 

[aditya g]

Have we received the gas turbines from Ukraine?

 

[akshay m]

Two missile destroyers of the Kolkata Class are at a very advanced stage of construction and we intend to deliver both the vessels to the Indian Navy soon. The first of the Project 15B Destroyer class, that are follow-ons of the Kolkata Class, is getting ready for launch next month.

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&r...0U_zc0Ev6MegPEB3AiH-gjA&bvm=bv.87611401,d.dGc

 

[SajeevJino]

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The first of the Project 15B Destroyer class, that are follow-ons of the Kolkata Class, is getting ready for launch next month.

They will start the Project I think

 

[abingdonboy]

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They will start the Project I think

Project was started in October 2013: