Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

[ladder]

Dunagiri is the present name of Dronagiri... So can't use that anymore.

Dhaulagiri then (seriously what the f***is even "Chandragiri")?

I think Chandragiri is in Tirupati, Andhra Pradesh.

 

[uoftotaku]

Dunagiri is the present name of Dronagiri... So can't use that anymore.

Dhaulagiri then (seriously what the f***is even "Chandragiri")? It's an ancient Indian buddhist shrine of Ashokan era.

Dhaulagiri (the actual mountain) is in Nepal so no the IN is not going to name a ship after it.

Chandragiri is the sister hill of Vindhyagiri in Karnataka

 

[ladder]

Many names in the link below.

http://cpreecenvis.nic.in/Database/Sacred_mountains_849.aspx

 

[Bleh]

I think Chandragiri is in Tirupati, Andhra Pradesh.

I know, i know... But that's the name of a town, is it even a hill?

Dhaulagiri (the actual mountain) is in Nepal so no the IN is not going to name a ship after it.

Chandragiri is the sister hill of Vindhyagiri in Karnataka

Dhaulagiri in Odisha is just as "actual". Its one of the oldest Buddhist shrines in India.

And "Chandragiri is the sister hill of Vindhyagiri"!!!!???? The ones at Sharavanbelgola????!!!!!!!!!!!!! Those are two small heaps of stone! Why would we name warships after those???!!
I thought Vindhyagiri meant the Vindhya range...

 

[ladder]

I know, i know... But that's the name of a town, is it even a hill?

Dhaulagiri in Odisha is just as "actual". Its one of the oldest Buddhist shrines in India.

And "Chandragiri is the sister hill of Vindhyagiri"!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????? The ones at Sharavanbelgola? Those are two small heaps of stone! Why would we name warships after those???!!
I thought Vindhyagiri meant the Vindhya range...

You mean 'Dhauligiri' in Odisha?

 

[Bleh]

You mean 'Dhauligiri' in Odisha?

Yes...............................

 

[uoftotaku]

Anyway this debate is of no meaning. The actual names will come out in a short while. Let's wait and see.

 

[WolfPack86]

JUST IN: @IndianNavy’s P17A frigate line christened the new Nilgiri class (the last was the updated Leander-class). First P17A ship to be launched shortly.

 

[tarunraju]

Animation of P-17A ICYMI

 

[aarav]

Animation of P-17A ICYMI

Looks like a close hybrid of Talwar class and Kolkata class anyways these Niligiri Class is exponentially superior to the chink frigates pakis are about to get in maybe 2021 because of LRSAM,BrahMos and MFSTAR and it will also have GE Turbines

 

[uoftotaku]

Looks like a close hybrid of Talwar class and Kolkata class anyways these Niligiri Class is exponentially superior to the chink frigates pakis are about to get in maybe 2021 because of LRSAM,BrahMos and MFSTAR and it will also have GE Turbines

It's actually a fantastic design if you compare it with the Kolkata class. In terms of armament the Kolkata is superior only by 08 x BrahMos.

In terms of raw performance in speed it falls short by 6 knots but does so at less than half the propulsion power (02 x main gas turbines vs 06 on the Kolkata)

And of course cost wise also it represents a big saving vs the new P15B (since its being built at the same time)

We should churn more of these out in quickfire fashion

 

[ladder]

It's actually a fantastic design if you compare it with the Kolkata class. In terms of armament the Kolkata is superior only by 08 x BrahMos.

In terms of raw performance in speed it falls short by 6 knots but does so at less than half the propulsion power (02 x main gas turbines vs 06 on the Kolkata)

And of course cost wise also it represents a big saving vs the new P15B (since its being built at the same time)

We should churn more of these out in quickfire fashion

P15A/B has cogog configuration while P17/A has codog configuration. So there is a difference in the number of gas turbines present in both the classes.

 

[uoftotaku]

P15A/B has cogog configuration while P17/A has codog configuration. So there is a difference in the number of gas turbines present in both the classes.

Yes I know. But I was pointing out the difference in running costs for 02 cruise diesels + 02 gas turbines vs 04 gas turbines is significant for the small difference in speed.

 

[AVAST]

Pardon my ignorance but what happens after all the 8 Brahmos are fired? Does it carry extras onboard?

 

[uoftotaku]

Pardon my ignorance but what happens after all the 8 Brahmos are fired? Does it carry extras onboard?

After all 8 are fired then PKMKB happens and need for reload becomes irrelevant

 

[ladder]

Pardon my ignorance but what happens after all the 8 Brahmos are fired? Does it carry extras onboard?

No. Very difficult to reload large missiles (fired from vls) at sea. Currently no one does it. Had been tried in the past. USN is again planning for the same.

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your...-bring-back-at-sea-missile-reload-capability/

 

[AVAST]

No. Very difficult to reload large missiles (fired from vls) at sea. Currently no one does it. Had been tried in the past. USN is again planning for the same.

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your...-bring-back-at-sea-missile-reload-capability/

Is there any specific reason why they carry so less?

 

[ladder]

Is there any specific reason why they carry so less?

Threat perception. Cost. What you think less, navy planners think adequate.
All world navies have standard 8 or 16 SSM ( anti ship) onboard.

 

[uoftotaku]

Is there any specific reason why they carry so less?

8 AshMs is the standard load out across the world for a surface combatant. Look across the USN fleet and all of them have ever since the Cold War era carried no more than 8 Harpoons (with a few exceptions like the reborn Iowa class battleships)

The days of fleet scaled ship to ship warfare are past. In the case of the IN, if facing the PN how many surface combatants can the enemy even put out to sea at any time? 8 Brahmos per vessel is already adequate

 

[porky_kicker]

P17A video from IN...........