Project 15 & 17: GoI Funds Plan to Build New Stealth Destroyers

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Glad to see a Distroyer with my hometown's name. cheers!
same here mate may kochi sail the seas and live up to her namesakes reputation that of The queen of the (arabian) seas
 

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Warship enters Mazagaon waters - Mumbai - City - NEWS - The Times of India

Warship enters Mazagaon waters
Srinivas Laxman, TNN 19 September 2009, 05:13am IST

MUMBAI: INS Kochi, the second warship of Project 15A, was launched at Mazgaon on Friday morning even as small flags adorning her fluttered in the wind. With dock workers chanting "Ganpati Bappa Morya'' in the background, Madhulika Sharma, wife of Admiral Nirmal Verma, chief of naval staff, inaugurated the 163-m-long ship that entered the waters for the first time.

The process of equipping her with various armaments and weapons will start soon, and finally, she is scheduled to be handed over to the navy in August 2012.

This indigenously-designed warship will have state-of-the-art weapons and sensors, stealth features__with the help of which enemy radar cannot spot it easily__an advanced action information system and a host of other advanced features. It will also be fitted with the supersonic BrahMos surface-to-surface missile system. The warship's air defence capability, designed to counter the threat of enemy aircraft and anti-ship cruise missiles, will revolve around the vertical launch, long-range, surface-to-air missile system, which is being co-developed by the DRDO. It also has a multi-function radar system.

Even as the warship was launched amid fanfare, dock officials, in an informal interaction, said the almost-$ 4-billion licensed production of six conventional Scorpene submarines has been delayed. According to the original plan, the first submarine was supposed to be being delivered to the Indian Navy in December 2012. "But now, the process will be delayed for two years and the first one is expected to be ready only in December 2014 and the second a few months later,'' an official said.

While Mazagon dock officials attributed the delay to teething problems, defence minister A K Anthony, during the launch of India's first nuclear submarine INS Ari'hant at Vishakapatnam on July 26, had blamed it on "problems in the absorption of technology'' by the Mazagaon dockyard.

The Scorpene project got underway in 2005 when India and France signed an agreement for the licensed manufacture of six Scorpene submarines at the Mazagon dock.

While addressing the audience at Mazgaon after Kochi's launch, Verma said that "delays and cost overruns have been a major cause of concern to the naval headquarters''. "Such situations have sometimes compelled the Indian Navy to resort to imports,'' he said.

Admitting to the two-year set-back, officials said the delivery time of the submarines to the navy had been brought forward from a year to eight months and the programme would definately be completed in December 2017, as it was decided in the original plan.

According to the officials, the first Kolkata-class warship launched in April 2006 at Mazagon dock is expected to be delivered to the navy in August 2011 and that will be followed by Kochi in August 2012.

Dock CMD H S Malhi said the organisation would complete 50 years in May 2010. "With orders in place__the amount is likely to go up to Rs 80,000 crore to be executed till 2020 the Mazgaon Dock Limited is in the league of the world's largest and the busiest shipyards,'' Malhi said.
 

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Characteristics of INS Kochi

Displacement: 6,800 tons
Length: 163 meters
Beam: 17.4 meters
Speed: 30+ knots
Sensors and processing systems: Multi-function radar system,Humsa-NG hull mounted sonar and a Nagin active towed array sonar
Armament: 1 x 130 mm gun
2x8 Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missiles
48 cell Barak 8 SAM
16 Barak 1 SAm
4 x 30 mm AK-630 rapid fire gatling guns
twin-tube torpedo launchers
anti-submarine rocket launchers
Aircraft carried: 2 Sea King and Dhruv Helicopters
 

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Of indigenous design, 90 per cent of a Project 15-A ship is constructed through the use of local material and equipment. At per unit cost of Rs3,800 crore, the three Project 15-A Kolkata-class destroyers will cost the navy approximately Rs11,000 crore ($950 million), including the cost of long-term spare parts.
Compare this with what Australia is set to pay for the acquisition of three 6,250-ton destroyers, fitted with the Lockheed Martin Aegis radar and fire control system. The total cost of the three units will amount to Rs32,000 crore ($8 billion), at a per unit cost of approximately Rs11,000 crore.
The price of each ship is about as much as what India will pay out for all three of its Kolkota class destroyers.
huge difference between the costs. if Aegis destroyer was built in India, it would cost atleast 30% less. Shipbuilding can be much cheaper in India but with all the other problems, Industry couldn't exploit the potential.
 

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Destryers have more powerful anti air weapons and land attack systems -frigates mainly for anti submarine operation with limited anti air capabiltiy so normally operate in conjunction with destroyers
 

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Destryers have more powerful anti air weapons and land attack systems -frigates mainly for anti submarine operation with limited anti air capabiltiy so normally operate in conjunction with destroyers
You are forgetting anti-ship capability...if F22p is a Frigate then the Shivalik class and Talwar class are destroyers....:viannen_10:
 

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INS Shivalik to be inducted soon

NEW DELHI: Soon, very soon, India will add another lethal punch to its growing ‘‘blue-water’’ warfare capabilities by inducting an indigenously-designed and manufactured ‘‘stealth’’ frigate. The 5,300-tonne frigate, INS Shivalik, armed with a deadly mix of foreign and indigenous weapon and sensor systems, is currently undergoing ‘‘advanced’’ pre-commissioning sea trials. Interestingly, apart from Russian Shtil surface-to-air missile systems, Klub anti-ship cruise missiles and other weapons, the multi-role frigate is also armed with the Israeli ‘Barak-I’ anti-missile defence system. Already fitted on 11 frontline warships like aircraft carrier INS Viraat and destroyer INS Mysore, the 10-km range Barak-I can intercept incoming Harpoon and Exocet missiles, launched from platforms like P-3C Orion aircraft and Agosta-90B submarines which Pakistan has acquired from US and France.

‘‘INS Shivalik is the first stealth frigate to be designed and built in India. It’s a matter of great pride for the country. It should be ready to enter service in Navy in November,’’ said director-general of naval design, Rear Admiral M K Badhwar. The Project-17 to construct three stealth frigates — the other two, INS Satpura and INS Sahyadri, will be delivered in 2010-2011 — at a cost of Rs 8,101 crore at Mazagon Docks has, of course, been plagued by delays ever since it was approved by the government in 1997. But now, with the programme on the verge of completion, the defence ministry has approved Project-17A to construct seven more frigates, with even more stealth features, for around Rs 45,000 crore. Navy initially wanted two of the seven new frigates to be built abroad to avoid time overruns. But MoD shot down the proposal, holding that four will be built at Mazagon Docks in Mumbai and the other three at Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers at Kolkata, said sources.

Navy currently has 34 warships and six submarines on order to ensure its force-levels do not dip below the existing 140 or so warships. The new inductions will help Navy strengthen its role as a ‘‘potent maritime force’’ and ‘‘stabilising influence’’ in the Indian Ocean, capable of ‘‘destruction of enemy’’ and deterrence as well as ‘‘coercive’’ and ‘‘peace’’ diplomacy. The stealth features incorporated in the Shivalik-class frigates, including inclined surfaces, will considerably reduce their radar cross-section. To reduce the noise signature, the designers have gone in for low-noise propellers, propulsion devices and machinery, as also ‘‘vibration damping’’.

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I hope all those 34 ships and six submarines get inducted in due time and without any major delays. Other then that GO NAVY.:2guns:
 

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India Launches 2nd Stealthy Destroyer




NEW DELHI - The Indian Navy has launched the second of its three stealthy Project-15-A, or Kolkata-class, destroyers. The INS Kochi, launched Sept. 18, is expected to be delivered in May 2011 for induction into active service.

Built by Mazagon Docks, the state-owned shipyard, the Project-15-A destroyers will be fitted with the supersonic BrahMos cruise missile and long-range surface-to-air missiles.

The Kochi was launched via a pontoon-assisted launch procedure, with aerial support from two multirole helicopters, a senior Defence Ministry official said, the first time such a method has been used for a warship launched in India. Russian experts were on hand to assist with the pontoon launch, which helps heavier vessels avoid slipway constraints.

The Kochi will be equipped with a multifunction radar system for acquiring data on surface and air targets, the Defence Ministry official said, and four AK-630 rapid-fire guns and a medium-range gun for closer targets. The destroyer will also have indigenously developed twin-tube torpedo launchers and anti-submarine rocket launchers, and Humsa sonar, developed by the state owned Naval Physical Oceanographic Laboratory.


India Launches 2nd Stealthy Destroyer - Defense News
 

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Well completion of ship in the given time frame is a very rare occurrence even in developed countries...this is because of a lot of outsourced parts and only integration to the hull takes place in the docks. These sub-contractors must develop, build and supply the parts in the particular time frame. This is very hard as many of the systems are new and need extensive testings. Only the follow ups will be bit faster.
 

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Well completion of ship in the given time frame is a very rare occurrence even in developed countries...this is because of a lot of outsourced parts and only integration to the hull takes place in the docks. These sub-contractors must develop, build and supply the parts in the particular time frame. This is very hard as many of the systems are new and need extensive testings. Only the follow ups will be bit faster.

Yeah I know they are going to be setbacks, but I hope what they learned from other ships they built won't create major setbacks which might delay a ship 1 or 2 years or more, if you know what I mean.


Don't get me wrong the Navy has actually done better then expected and I am happy they are doing more indigenisation then ever. But a proper planned strategy and well setup shipyard has to keep improving and start doing things more efficently and I think the Navy is on that track now. So I agree their will be setbacks but we should expect even with new technology that their shouldn't be huge delays.
 

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Also the government itself as caused huge delays in the past and an example of this was when our Kilo submarines had to get upgraded but it took something like 5 years before they were done. It's in the past now but we can't afford to have huge delays now when China is growing it's Navy larger and larger every year.
 

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I hope all those 34 ships and six submarines get inducted in due time and without any major delays. Other then that GO NAVY.:2guns:
already the construction of Scorpenes delayed, only god knows about other projects,
but i dont any doubt about Mazgoon docks it can built in time, but GRSE is tough i doubt,
 
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Indian stealth destroyer launched

Indian stealth destroyer launched

Indian stealth destroyer launched


by Staff Writers
New Delhi (UPI) Sep 22, 2009
The Indian navy has launched a stealth destroyer capable of carrying nuclear warheads.

The INS Kochi, a 6,500-ton warship, will add its force to the existing Indian fleet, which includes the INS Delhi, INS Mysore and INS Mumbai.

Defense observers say the latest launch, the second of the Indian navy's three stealthy Project-15-A or Kolkotas-class destroyers, is part of India's state quest to become a dominating nuclear naval force in the Arabian Sea.

"Launching the warship is an important milestone in the construction process," Adm. Madhulika Verma said at the launch ceremony, according to the Indian Express.

Built by Mazagon Dock, India's state-owned shipyard, and designed by the Directorate of Naval Design, "the INS Kochi will be fitted with supersonic BrahMos missile and long-range surface-to-air missiles," Defense News reported Tuesday.

A senior Defense Ministry official quoted by Defense News said the Kochi was launched "via a pontoon-assisted launch procedure, with aerial support from two multi-role helicopters."

It is the first launch of its kind to be used in India.

The INS Kochi also has a built-in feature that makes the vessel less vulnerable to be spotted by enemy radar.

The ship's close-range defense capability will be boosted by four AK-630 rapid-fire guns and a medium-range gun, according to a navy spokesman quoted by The Times of India.

Twin-tube torpedo launchers and anti-submarine rocket launchers, the Humsa-NG hull-mounted sonar will also equip the destroyer, adding punch to the ship's anti-submarine capability.

Its maximum speed is said to be above 30 knots.

The launch comes as India prepares to set off a new satellite that would also monitor the Indian Ocean and the Arabian Sea. The new launching of Oceansat-2 satellite is aimed at identifying potential fishing zones and coastal studies but it can also track naval movements and defense maneuvers in the region.

"The Indian navy is poised for growth and the time to conceptualize an indigenous warship building system has come," Verma was quoted as saying at the launch by The Press Trust of India.

He said that the Indian navy was required to relook and evaluate inefficiencies of the force.

"Fluctuating funding in the past has compelled the Navy to resort to (warship) building in abroad, but now there is an urgent need to emulate worldwide trends in warship building (in the country)."
 

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Lethal ,the report stays that ins kochi can have nuclear warhead so are they going to use nuke warhead in brahmos or the report says that this stealth ship is capable of launching nuclear ballistic missile?
 

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Indian Navy to induct latest stealth frigate, INS Shivalik, by November news

New Delhi: The Indian Navy is set to enhance its blue water force capabilities with the likely induction of the very latest indigenously designed, stealth frigate INS Shivalik by November this year. A Project-17 class, 5,300 tonne frigate, the Shivalik is a formidable mix of foreign and indigenous weapons and sensor systems.

The first of a class of three vessels, the Shivalik is currently undergoing ''advanced'' pre-commissioning sea trials. It will be followed by sister ships INS Satpura and INS Sahyadri in the period 2010-2011.

The Shivalik will field an impressive battery of weapons such as the Russian Shtil surface-to-air missile systems, Klub anti-ship cruise missiles. It will also field the Israeli 'Barak-I' anti-missile defence system, which currently arms 11 of the navy's frontline warships such as aircraft carrier INS Viraat and the Delhi-class destroyer, INS Mysore.

The 10-km range Barak-I is capable of intercepting Pakistani Harpoon and Exocet missiles, launched from platforms like P-3C Orion aircraft and Agosta-90B submarines which Pakistan has acquired from US and France.

The Project-17 is a Rs8,101 crore project being implemented at Mumbai's Mazagon Docks.

The project will be superceded by Project-17A, a massive project to construct seven, even more, stealthy frigates for around Rs 45,000 crore. Four of these ships will be built at the Mazagon Docks while the other three will be constructed at Kolkota's Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers yards.

The Navy currently has 34 warships and six submarines on order.

The Shivalik-class frigates boast of low-noise propellers, propulsion devices and machinery, as also ''vibration damping''. They will also carry General Electric's LM2500 gas turbines, which will provide them with 22 Mw of power boost.

Indian Navy to induct latest stealth frigate, INS Shivalik, by November
 

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Lethal ,the report stays that ins kochi can have nuclear warhead so are they going to use nuke warhead in brahmos or the report says that this stealth ship is capable of launching nuclear ballistic missile?
No that is a mistake. Brahmos are not nuclear capable. But surely Indian surface fleet lacks long range cruise missile capability. I am sure they will go for Nirbhay onboard future P-15B ships. We need a lot of Nirbhay to be deployed.
 

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