Discussion in 'Politics & Society' started by Manas7, Feb 5, 2013.
The speech was repulsive but it was *Not* hate speech. It was a cunning speech.
N one was attacked with ad-hominems,, no religion insulted, no religious figures insulted, no exhortations to kill openly. Just references to some past incidents.
@A chauhan @sayareakd...can you put some light ?
^^^ I enjoyed it. Togadia did a good job of refreshing the memory. Yaa , its always healthty for mind and body of both hindus and muslims.
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A healthy dose of reality is better than a heady dose of illusion of a supposed bonhomie.
There is a debate on "HeadlinesToday" that it is a "hate speech" and Togadia need to be arrested.
Video has been removed by Youtube as against their policy against hate speech...
@KS Oh sorry the video has been removed, I couldn't hear it.
Can someone post what he said actually?
Would like to hear it before I comment on it.
Is this the one, I do not know.
Seems to be treading a very fine line, but those adjectives to the Muslims should have been avoided IMO
Stupid speech. Very stupid speech. I do not know if any legal action can be taken on the basis of this clip, but he needs to be toned down, because it will only get more vitriolic from here.
Togadia gave a list of some incidents and actually adviced Owaisi not to ever think of hate spewing life without police
1. Togadia compared Owaisi with Kutta. 2. Listed various riots statistics 3. Asked Owaisi not to provoke Hindus ! Are u hurt ? I am not.
Important point you all missed is that Togadia said During Bhagalpur and Meerut riots, police was "removed". But was not CON ruling then?
Both Sickos and RoP dudes got shocks when they heard Togadia's revelation that police helped rioters in CON ruled state and not in Guj.
Edit : saw post 10 video is working
The question is who started the chain reaction.
Wow someone has got the video down from youtube, these cowards can have their propaganda celebrated but when someone gives the answer back they evoke all the rules.
Compare it with Owaisi's , it's not a hate speech, he is counting the past incidents (which is not a crime) nor he is inciting anyone to kill Muslims (I am not incited) while Owaisi incited Muslims to kill Hindus if Police removed, rather he is trying to assure Hindus who are scared due to Owaisi's speech and ridiculing him to not to provoke Hindus. If Salman Khurshid's direct threat to Kejariwal and consequences due to that was not a crime then how can this be? However it's a stupid speech not needed at all, calling Owaisi a "Kutta" is definitely a slander.
CONgrass brigade active or so called secular paid media channels, polarization of votes shall start for 2014 election.
Even though I personally dont like Togadia but his speech doesnt seems to be "hate speech" like some "Sickulars" are trying to prove to gain muslim votes.
Its more of a reactionary speech showing mirror to Owasi types and behave as a minister.
It is definitely a hate speech and he should be arrested, no Hindus should cry a river when it happens. When you cry a river and then do flip flops you are coward.
IMHO the politics of appeasement has to be stopped in the name of Holy Secularism or else we may see scores of Togadia & Owesies types matching each other to fulfill the objectives of the politicians by creating social divide & unrest.
These kind of people create fear psychosis among the masses & politicians, terrorist & Aman ki Tamasha guys tap it for their undeserving advantage.
The religious fanaticism cannot be balanced or put in equilibrium , it can only aggravate by equal measure & in order to match each other.
There must be de-linking of politics with religion in order to make India truly secular i.e. no party can make religion or religion based issues in their agenda or be a party based on religious guideline/ name etc etc... and all religious issue to be sorted out by a board constituting the scholars of the all the religion. The act of fanaticism, conversion by wrong means, social divide must be treated as an act of treason.
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