PNS Babur tried to disrupt INDIAN war game

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^ Hassan Nissar once talked about this naming their defence systems which are meant to protect their country after invaders but then our neighbours are thekedaar of Islam so this partly works for them.
 
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next time they enter in our way, we need to Ram the ship like Soviets did it to Yorktown......

 
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We have such a powerful blue water navy and our warship was grazed by a pakistani one.. Instead of responding immediatly our naval commanders rush to New Delhi and like school kids say 'Teacher, teacher, pakistani ne muje dhaka diya..' How incompetent... When are we going to shed our passivity?
 

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We have such a powerful blue water navy and our warship was grazed by a pakistani one.. Instead of responding immediatly our naval commanders rush to New Delhi and like school kids say 'Teacher, teacher, pakistani ne muje dhaka diya..' How incompetent... When are we going to shed our passivity?

Ever heard rules of engagements or chain of command ?
 

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Ever heard rules of engagements or chain of command ?
i would imagine that when pns babur tried to ram ins godavari it was following rules of engagement.. Also i would imagine that captain of pns babur would have got prior permission for his commanding officer as well as naval command for his actions.. Strictly adhering to chain of command i guess..
Lolz...
 

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i would imagine that when pns babur tried to ram ins godavari it was following rules of engagement.. Also i would imagine that captain of pns babur would have got prior permission for his commanding officer as well as naval command for his actions.. Strictly adhering to chain of command i guess..
Lolz...
There is a difference between dog bite and man fight. The difference tells us who we are and who they are. This difference should stay.
Moreover, rational people follow something called a threshold. When that is crossed, our men in sea know what to do.

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Virendra
 

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The way their armed forces have been behaving whether it is the J & K border skirmishes or the latest incident in the International waters. I believe sooner or later India will be forced to retaliate if provoked again. How soon that will happen is hard to say. If I had been in the position to make decision, it would have happened way back in 1999 on a massive scale.

We have shown enough of restrain. If and when it happens Next time India should retaliate and than we can deal with the consequences as they arise. The ultimate goal should be to take back the complete control of Illegally occupied part of Kashmir. Untill and unless India shows that we mean business no matter how many times we hold diplomatic talks nothing will be resolved.

We do not have to consult any foreign power who have vested intrest in the region. It is the never ending bad boy behaviour and they do not need to get the spanking but the thrashing of their infrastructure. Inflict the maximum destruction and let the world powers react, who are fed up as well with baby sitting these morons.
 
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i would imagine that when pns babur tried to ram ins godavari it was following rules of engagement.. Also i would imagine that captain of pns babur would have got prior permission for his commanding officer as well as naval command for his actions.. Strictly adhering to chain of command i guess..
Lolz...
Capitan is ex ISI, they are state within the state, plus with that kind of background, it is most likely possible that Capitan of PNS Babur acted without getting permission.
 

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Capitan is ex ISI, they are state within the state, plus with that kind of background, it is most likely possible that Capitan of PNS Babur acted without getting permission.
If he did that on his own than he should be disciiplined by the PNS. It is no excuse that he acted because of his background was Captain in ISI. Can you imagine if all the soldiers around the world start behaving this way? There will be war on every border of the world. The ultimate solution is joint operation to get hands on their Nuclear Arsenal than disband the complete ISI command and control. I do not see any other solution for the problem as it exists.
 

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India is a far more respected country than China or Pakistahn, Its Involvement in UN operation is legendary..

Even against piracy IN counted more than any-other over Arabian sea, That is IN reputation which ultimately is our face..

Babur act is shameful and it shows how degraded PN is, Doesn't mean we do the same..

Next time if PNS babur or anyone show act of aggression, It is important that warning shots must be fired, In joint exercises..
 

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Dere's no doubt dat captain of pns babur acted on his own voilition without any knowledge of their naval command.. But do u guys know why he did so?? Simple.. He knew we were not going to respond.. Its tym our forces took a more aggressive approach.. Restraint, fair play and battle code should be followd by both sides. Otherwise, they lose significance..
 

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PNS Babur has a history of aggressive behaviour at sea : Indian Navy

Published June 22, 2011

SOURCE : INDIAN EXPRESS

The Pakistani warship that triggered a diplomatic squabble between India and Pakistan ahead of the foreign secretary level talks is a 'history-sheeter' that came dangerously close to Indian warships in the Arabian Sea thrice in the past eight months and even tried to disrupt war games being conducted by the Indian Navy in international waters.

Details have now emerged that show that the PNS Babur has a history of aggressive behaviour at sea and last Thursday's incident when it brushed past the INS Godavari while escorting the MV Suez is the third time that it has deliberately taunted Indian warships. It is also speculated that all three incidents are related to the Captain of the Pakistani warship, Azhar Naeem, who spent three years in the ISI before taking charge of the ship recently.

Source said that the first incident was recorded in November last year when Indian warships were taking part in the Defence of Gujarat Exercise. The Babur came dangerously close and attempted to disrupt the war game.

The action was repeated in January when it attempted to interfere in war games in the Arabian Sea.

In both cases, the Babur breached the three mile distance that is followed by warships of both countries as part of CBMs. Sources said the Indian Navy lodged a complaint in both cases.

PNS Babur has a history of aggressive behaviour at sea : Indian Navy | idrw.org
 

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