Philippines to stand ground vs bullying of China

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    'China's claims in Spratlys groundless'

    by Jojo Malig, ABS-CBNnews.com
    Posted at 07/02/2012 11:31 PM | Updated as of 07/02/2012 11:31 PM

    MANILA, Philippines - China's claims in the South China Sea are groundless, an Australian defense expert said at a recent Washington DC forum organized by a US think-tank.

    Professor Carlyle Thayer from the Australian Defense Force Academy said at the June 27-28 gathering sponsored by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) that China's so-called U-shaped line in the South China Sea is not legal.


    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/world/07/02/12/chinas-claims-spratlys-groundless


    China row reason for Charter change, says Enrile

    Bigger military spending


    To prepare, the government should spend more for the modernization of the military, which means it may have to review the priority given to education in the Constitution.
    Enrile hinted at the need for Congress to make that review.
    “If you insist on a bigger budget for education and [we are threatened by war], what will you do, limit yourself to what the Constitution says?” he said. “That’s stupidity.”
    “Let us make a Constitution that is flexible,” Enrile said. “Leave it to the representatives of the people to decide what are the priorities at any given time.”
    The government has asked China to take their dispute over Scarborough Shoal to the International Tribunal on the Law of the Sea (Itlos), but China has refused, insisting on its policy of dealing one on one with its territorial rivals in the West Philippine Sea.
    The two countries have yet to resume talks to resolve their dispute over Scarborough Shoal.
    Tasked with resuming contact with Beijing is the Philippines’ new ambassador to China, Sonia Brady.
    Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario on Sunday said that Brady, 70, had been given orders to “continue the consultations in pursuit of a peaceful resolution” of the dispute over Scarborough Shoal. With a report from Jerry E. Esplanada
    Originally posted: 10:07 pm | Sunday, July 1st, 2012

    China row reason for Charter change, says Enrile | Inquirer Global Nation


    Philippines moves to claim, secure Benham Rise

    By Kristine L. Alave
    Philippine Daily Inquirer
    4:13 am | Wednesday, July 4th, 2012

    After getting the nod of the United Nations on its claim to Benham Rise, the Philippines has moved in on the submerged landmass believed to be rich in natural gas and minerals off eastern Luzon.
    Benham Rise is found in one of the country’s “unexploited” fishing grounds, according to Assistant Director Gil Adora of the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR). His agency is currently assessing the area’s marine resources.
    Adora said commercial fishermen from China and Taiwan had been entering the eastern seaboard of Luzon over the past years. Their ships are more advanced and well-equipped to handle the strong waves there, he said.
    “Taiwan is exploiting it right now,” he added.

    In April, the agency implementing the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (Unclos) informed the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) that Benham Rise is part of the Philippines’ continental shelf and territory.
    The Unclos, concluded in 1982, defines the rights and responsibilities of nations in their use of the world’s oceans.
    Rich in blue fin tuna
    Also known as Benham Plateau, the massive formation of basalt, a common volcanic rock, has been described in studies as a thickened portion of the Philippine sea plate’s oceanic crust.
    According to the DENR, the plateau is rich in natural gas and manganese nodules. The waters of the 13-million-hectare continental shelf off the coast of Aurora province is rich in blue fin tuna, Adora said.
    The BFAR official explained that the Pacific blue fin usually found in the colder waters of the northern Pacific has thrived in the seas east of Luzon, which are colder than the other tuna fishing grounds of Filipino fishermen.

    Philippines moves to claim, secure Benham Rise | Inquirer Global Nation

    US offered surveillance planes to Philippines

    by Jojo Malig, ABS-CBNnews.com
    Posted at 07/04/2012 6:44 PM | Updated as of 07/04/2012 8:08 PM

    MANILA, Philippines (UPDATE) - The United States -- and not the Philippines -- made the initial offer to deploy surveillance aircraft in the disputed waters of the West Philippine Sea.

    Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin told reporters in January that Manila was considering the US proposal to deploy surveillance aircraft to the Philippines.

    He explained that the move would strengthen the Philippines' ability to guard its vast territory, including the West Philippine Sea.

    "There would be stability in the region, that we would have enough deterrent," Gazmin said. "Without a deterrent force, we can be easily pushed around, our territories will be violated. Now that we have a good neighbor on the block, we can no longer be bullied."

    He said security talks have been ongoing between Manila and Washington over the plan, which includes the deployment of more US ships and aircraft in the region.

    The talks, however, do not include new US military bases in the Philippines.

    Adm. Samuel Locklear, the head of the US Pacific Command, specifically proposed the deployment of P-3C Orion surveillance aircraft in August 2011, according to Reuters.

    This jibes with President Benigno Aquino's statement Monday that his administration is considering the deployment of the said airplanes amid the Philippines' ongoing territorial dispute with China.

    "We might be requesting overflights on that," Aquino told Reuters, referring to U.S. P=3C Orion spy planes. "We don't have aircraft with those capabilities."
     
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    Ok, great, a country can't even afford a decent navy believes missile alone can solve its problem?
     
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    Let us look at China's new- found aggressiveness in it holity!

    China’s 100 Years of Humiliation has left a deep mark on the collective psyche of Chinese citizens. The 1982 Constitution preamble gives lament to this national humiliation at the hands of foreign powers.

    This national shame is so deeply ingrained and shameful that government spokespeople even today are quick to find “insults to the dignity of the Chinese people” in routine differences of diplomatic opinion, whether meeting with the Dalai Lama, selling defensive arms to Taiwan, or criticizing China’s Internet policies or raising issues of human rights. The manner in which China warned Nations insisting that they boycott the Nobel Prize Ceremony honouring Liu Xiaobo, the Chinese dissident and winner of the Nobel peace prize indicates that the Chinese or Han are incapable of accepting any action that is not to China’s gain or adequately laudatory to pamper and massage the Han ethnic and cultural 'superiority' and pride!

    Therefore, for the Chinese citizens and the Diaspora, any discussion that does not necessarily hold China in favourable light, even when such a situation cannot be contrived to show China in favourable light, they find it as “insults to the dignity of the Chinese people”.

    This unique Chinese or Han mindset has to be understood in the correct perspective since sinocentrism, which is the ethnocentrism of the Han people and Han culture, or the modern concept of zhonghua minzu wherein areas outside the Sinocentric influence were called Huawaizhidi (化外之地), meaning uncivilized lands.

    While modern Chinese people will outrightly deny this mindset with the 'correct degree' of incredulous astonishment, yet all actions indicate that the mindset is alive and thriving. Their lecturing and hectoring the world with pious platitudes and mealy mouthed homilies over even minor matters where they don't agree, is an indicator in this direction.

    To wit, while there are many example, suffice it to mention the fierce indignation displayed by China over the US Naval exercises with the Philippines and Vietnam Navies. These naval exercises followed shortly after the the Scarborough Shoal flare up, which China claimed to be theirs based on the map of nine dashes that is said to have no historical basis. In short, it was the usual indication that China is the sole arbiter of what is right and any deviation to their viewpoint would be ‘insults to the Chinese people’ It maybe mentioned, in passing, that the unique map of Nine Dashes have no historical antecedent and yet, the Chinese insist and demand, if you will, that their view alone is the sole and correct view and other views be damned!

    In the context of the Scarborough Shoal incident that indicates China’s newfound aggressive ‘muscle’, is the attitude exemplified by the cavalier, supercilious and culturally arrogant attitude of a Chinese Air Force general Maj. Gen. Zhang Zhaozhong who boasted to the China’s media about how its military took control of Scarborough Shoal, sealing it using a layered “cabbage (security) strategy” and transforming the island 124 miles west of Zambales province into an exclusive fishing ground for Chinese fisherman.

    Not satisfied by grabbing territory on contrived maps, he went on to showcase the insatiable quest for hegemonic and imperialist acquisitions of China by indicating that the tactic could be adopted in other islands that are occupied by the Philippines.
    http://www.malaya.com.ph/index.php/n...s-ayungin-next

    In other words, the message to the world was that China can, with impunity, merrily grab territory through ‘layered cabbage’ tactics, and others should merely meekly accept it as the rightful and moral thing that China has done.

    However, if others wanted to indicate that China was contravening international law and norms, and even show some force in indicating that international norms should be adhered to, it became, for China, an ‘insult to the dignity of the Chinese people’! That is the indicator of the twisted Han arrogance and supercilious superiority meanderings that the world is expected to grin and bear it!

    The Chinese mindset is keen to right the wrongs of history as they perceive, now that they are a reckonable economic power and moving stridently to challenge US’ military superiority. They are out to prove their make belief theory and thrust it on the world as a Gospel truth that China is indeed the "central nation" or (traditionally) the "middle kingdom" and the world revolves around China and must revolve around China since Han culture deemed it so!

    Therefore, any dispelling of this mental attitude makes them livid and they blame it on others' paranoia!

    China will try to dominate the Asia-Pacific region to copycat the United States assumed domination the Western Hemisphere. China will attempt maximising the power gap between itself and potentially dangerous neighbours like India, Japan, and Russia. China will attempt to ensure that it is so powerful that no state in Asia has the wherewithal to threaten it and will do all to crush ‘splittists’ within like the Tibetans and the Uighurs, so that the Sinocization is complete and there is no internal threat. At the same time, China pursuing military superiority will not embark on war, although that is always a possibility. Instead, it is more likely that Beijing will want to dictate the boundaries of acceptable behaviour to neighbouring countries, which it is already doing and have done in the past.

    Alongside, a much more powerful China will do everything feasible to try to push the United States out of the Asia-Pacific region

    That is basically the rationale for China spying along the US coast and entrenching itself in nations, not only around the US, but around the world in a competitive superiority mode with the US, to prove to the world and to its own people that what the US can do, China can also do and, with a slight warping the facts, prove China does it better.

    China is in the avatar of the ‘new kid in the block’ and it will do everything to indicate to the US and the world that it can copy and even outmatch the US.

    Therefore, China spying on the US in US waters is not surprising!

    The Han imagined cultural superiority will engine their ascendancy over the ‘uncivilised’ lands and people!

    Or so they most ardently believe!
     
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    Mr. Ray, did you write it or copy it from somewhere? Link please? Otherwise how can I believe it is true?
     
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    Argumentum ad populum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

     
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    Too bad.

    I agree the truth for you is an embarrassment to your Han arrogance based on false grandstanding!

    Please note the various irrelevant threads by the Han Chinese to 'showcase' China's achievement and the furious anger exhibited when the other side of real China is exposed!
     
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    Ray, I was pointing out that your reasoning was flawed, and hence we cannot accept your assertions as true. I am mystified as to how this demonstrates I am embarrassed by your assertions.
     
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    Your opinion and that may actually be totally flawed!
     
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    How is my Post # flawed?

    Let’s visit it again.

    China’s 100 Years of Humiliation has left a deep mark on the collective psyche of Chinese citizens. The 1982 Constitution preamble gives lament to this national humiliation at the hands of foreign powers. (FACT)

    This national shame is so deeply ingrained and shameful that government spokespeople even today are quick to find “insults to the dignity of the Chinese people” in routine differences of diplomatic opinion, whether meeting with the Dalai Lama, selling defensive arms to Taiwan, or criticizing China’s Internet policies or raising issues of human rights. The manner in which China warned Nations insisting that they boycott the Nobel Prize Ceremony honouring Liu Xiaobo, the Chinese dissident and winner of the Nobel peace prize indicates that the Chinese or Han are incapable of accepting any action that is not to China’s gain or adequately laudatory to pamper and massage the Han ethnic and cultural 'superiority' and pride! (FACT in both cases) An example: Rear Admiral Guan Youfei of the People’s Liberation Army accused Washington of “plotting to encircle China with strategic alliances” and said arms deals with Taiwan “prove that the United States views China as an enemy.” U.S.-China Conflict: From War Of Words To Talk Of War | Global Research )

    Therefore, for the Chinese citizens and the Diaspora, any discussion that does not necessarily hold China in favourable light, even when such a situation cannot be contrived to show China in favourable light, they find it as “insults to the dignity of the Chinese people”. Fact. Not how without any reasoning, you find my post flawed. The forum is full of Chinese protestations on various facts given regarding Sinicization of the non Hans i.e. the Southern and Eastern people and protestations that they were never called barbarians, or that China does not have beggar and the list is endless)

    This unique Chinese or Han mindset has to be understood in the correct perspective since sinocentrism, which is the ethnocentrism of the Han people and Han culture, or the modern concept of zhonghua minzu wherein areas outside the Sinocentric influence were called Huawaizhidi (化外之地), meaning uncivilized lands. (Fact. Can you deny the concept of zhonghua minzu or Huawaizhidi (化外之地)?

    While modern Chinese people will outrightly deny this mindset with the 'correct degree' of incredulous astonishment, yet all actions indicate that the mindset is alive and thriving. Their lecturing and hectoring the world with pious platitudes and mealy mouthed homilies over even minor matters where they don't agree, is an indicator in this direction. (Fact. Have you failed to notice the very aspects I have mentioned in posts of your compatriots? Must I enumerate them to include light tanks in Tibet and employment of Hovercraft in direct combat and landing) )

    To wit, while there are many example, suffice it to mention the fierce indignation displayed by China over the US Naval exercises with the Philippines and Vietnam Navies. These naval exercises followed shortly after the the Scarborough Shoal flare up, which China claimed to be theirs based on the map of nine dashes that is said to have no historical basis. In short, it was the usual indication that China is the sole arbiter of what is right and any deviation to their viewpoint would be ‘insults to the Chinese people’ It maybe mentioned, in passing, that the unique map of Nine Dashes have no historical antecedent and yet, the Chinese insist and demand, if you will, that their view alone is the sole and correct view and other views be damned! (Fact. An example: Beijing responded by calling in the US deputy chief of mission and state media ran a spate of hostile pieces. "We are entirely entitled to shout at the United States, 'Shut up'. How can meddling by other countries be tolerated in matters that are within the scope of Chinese sovereignty?" asked a commentary in the overseas edition of the People's Daily, the official Communist party newspaper.
    The domestic version accused Washington of "fanning the flames and provoking division" in the region. China lambasts US over South China Sea row | World news | guardian.co.uk )

    .

    In the context of the Scarborough Shoal incident that indicates China’s newfound aggressive ‘muscle’, is the attitude exemplified by the cavalier, supercilious and culturally arrogant attitude of a Chinese Air Force general Maj. Gen. Zhang Zhaozhong who boasted to the China’s media about how its military took control of Scarborough Shoal, sealing it using a layered “cabbage (security) strategy” and transforming the island 124 miles west of Zambales province into an exclusive fishing ground for Chinese fisherman.

    Not satisfied by grabbing territory on contrived maps, he went on to showcase the insatiable quest for hegemonic and imperialist acquisitions of China by indicating that the tactic could be adopted in other islands that are occupied by the Philippines.
    http://www.malaya.com.ph/index.php/n...s-ayungin-next (Fact. Check the link that was given here)

    In other words, the message to the world was that China can, with impunity, merrily grab territory through ‘layered cabbage’ tactics, and others should merely meekly accept it as the rightful and moral thing that China has done.

    However, if others wanted to indicate that China was contravening international law and norms, and even show some force in indicating that international norms should be adhered to, it became, for China, an ‘insult to the dignity of the Chinese people’! That is the indicator of the twisted Han arrogance and supercilious superiority meanderings that the world is expected to grin and bear it!

    The Chinese mindset is keen to right the wrongs of history as they perceive, now that they are a reckonable economic power and moving stridently to challenge US’ military superiority. They are out to prove their make belief theory and thrust it on the world as a Gospel truth that China is indeed the "central nation" or (traditionally) the "middle kingdom" and the world revolves around China and must revolve around China since Han culture deemed it so!

    Therefore, any dispelling of this mental attitude makes them livid and they blame it on others' paranoia!

    China will try to dominate the Asia-Pacific region to copycat the United States assumed domination the Western Hemisphere. China will attempt maximising the power gap between itself and potentially dangerous neighbours like India, Japan, and Russia. China will attempt to ensure that it is so powerful that no state in Asia has the wherewithal to threaten it and will do all to crush ‘splittists’ within like the Tibetans and the Uighurs, so that the Sinocization is complete and there is no internal threat. At the same time, China pursuing military superiority will not embark on war, although that is always a possibility. Instead, it is more likely that Beijing will want to dictate the boundaries of acceptable behaviour to neighbouring countries, which it is already doing and have done in the past.

    Alongside, a much more powerful China will do everything feasible to try to push the United States out of the Asia-Pacific region

    That is basically the rationale for China spying along the US coast and entrenching itself in nations, not only around the US, but around the world in a competitive superiority mode with the US, to prove to the world and to its own people that what the US can do, China can also do and, with a slight warping the facts, prove China does it better.

    China is in the avatar of the ‘new kid in the block’ and it will do everything to indicate to the US and the world that it can copy and even outmatch the US.

    Therefore, China spying on the US in US waters is not surprising!

    The Han imagined cultural superiority will engine their ascendancy over the ‘uncivilised’ lands and people!

    Or so they most ardently believe!
     
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    T_co,

    How is my Post # flawed?

    Let’s visit it again.

    China’s 100 Years of Humiliation has left a deep mark on the collective psyche of Chinese citizens. The 1982 Constitution preamble gives lament to this national humiliation at the hands of foreign powers. (FACT)

    This national shame is so deeply ingrained and shameful that government spokespeople even today are quick to find “insults to the dignity of the Chinese people” in routine differences of diplomatic opinion, whether meeting with the Dalai Lama, selling defensive arms to Taiwan, or criticizing China’s Internet policies or raising issues of human rights. The manner in which China warned Nations insisting that they boycott the Nobel Prize Ceremony honouring Liu Xiaobo, the Chinese dissident and winner of the Nobel peace prize indicates that the Chinese or Han are incapable of accepting any action that is not to China’s gain or adequately laudatory to pamper and massage the Han ethnic and cultural 'superiority' and pride! (FACT in both cases) An example: Rear Admiral Guan Youfei of the People’s Liberation Army accused Washington of “plotting to encircle China with strategic alliances” and said arms deals with Taiwan “prove that the United States views China as an enemy.” U.S.-China Conflict: From War Of Words To Talk Of War | Global Research )

    Therefore, for the Chinese citizens and the Diaspora, any discussion that does not necessarily hold China in favourable light, even when such a situation cannot be contrived to show China in favourable light, they find it as “insults to the dignity of the Chinese people”. (Fact. Note how without any reasoning, you find my post flawed. The forum is full of Chinese protestations on various facts given regarding Sinicization of the non Hans i.e. the Southern and Eastern people and protestations that they were never called barbarians, or that China does not have beggar and the list is endless)

    This unique Chinese or Han mindset has to be understood in the correct perspective since sinocentrism, which is the ethnocentrism of the Han people and Han culture, or the modern concept of zhonghua minzu wherein areas outside the Sinocentric influence were called Huawaizhidi (化外之地), meaning uncivilized lands. (Fact. Can you deny the concept of zhonghua minzu or Huawaizhidi (化外之地)? )

    While modern Chinese people will outrightly deny this mindset with the 'correct degree' of incredulous astonishment, yet all actions indicate that the mindset is alive and thriving. Their lecturing and hectoring the world with pious platitudes and mealy mouthed homilies over even minor matters where they don't agree, is an indicator in this direction. (Fact. Have you failed to notice the very aspects I have mentioned in posts of your compatriots? Must I enumerate them to include light tanks in Tibet and employment of Hovercraft in direct combat and landing) )

    To wit, while there are many example, suffice it to mention the fierce indignation displayed by China over the US Naval exercises with the Philippines and Vietnam Navies. These naval exercises followed shortly after the the Scarborough Shoal flare up, which China claimed to be theirs based on the map of nine dashes that is said to have no historical basis. In short, it was the usual indication that China is the sole arbiter of what is right and any deviation to their viewpoint would be ‘insults to the Chinese people’ It maybe mentioned, in passing, that the unique map of Nine Dashes have no historical antecedent and yet, the Chinese insist and demand, if you will, that their view alone is the sole and correct view and other views be damned! (All Facts. An example: Beijing responded by calling in the US deputy chief of mission and state media ran a spate of hostile pieces. "We are entirely entitled to shout at the United States, 'Shut up'. How can meddling by other countries be tolerated in matters that are within the scope of Chinese sovereignty?" asked a commentary in the overseas edition of the People's Daily, the official Communist party newspaper.
    The domestic version accused Washington of "fanning the flames and provoking division" in the region. China lambasts US over South China Sea row | World news | guardian.co.uk )

    .

    In the context of the Scarborough Shoal incident that indicates China’s newfound aggressive ‘muscle’, is the attitude exemplified by the cavalier, supercilious and culturally arrogant attitude of a Chinese Air Force general Maj. Gen. Zhang Zhaozhong who boasted to the China’s media about how its military took control of Scarborough Shoal, sealing it using a layered “cabbage (security) strategy” and transforming the island 124 miles west of Zambales province into an exclusive fishing ground for Chinese fisherman.

    Not satisfied by grabbing territory on contrived maps, he went on to showcase the insatiable quest for hegemonic and imperialist acquisitions of China by indicating that the tactic could be adopted in other islands that are occupied by the Philippines.
    http://www.malaya.com.ph/index.php/n...s-ayungin-next (Fact. Check the link that was given here)

    In other words, the message to the world was that China can, with impunity, merrily grab territory through ‘layered cabbage’ tactics, and others should merely meekly accept it as the rightful and moral thing that China has done.

    However, if others wanted to indicate that China was contravening international law and norms, and even show some force in indicating that international norms should be adhered to, it became, for China, an ‘insult to the dignity of the Chinese people’! That is the indicator of the twisted Han arrogance and supercilious superiority meanderings that the world is expected to grin and bear it!

    The Chinese mindset is keen to right the wrongs of history as they perceive, now that they are a reckonable economic power and moving stridently to challenge US’ military superiority. They are out to prove their make belief theory and thrust it on the world as a Gospel truth that China is indeed the "central nation" or (traditionally) the "middle kingdom" and the world revolves around China and must revolve around China since Han culture deemed it so!

    Therefore, any dispelling of this mental attitude makes them livid and they blame it on others' paranoia!

    China will try to dominate the Asia-Pacific region to copycat the United States assumed domination the Western Hemisphere. China will attempt maximising the power gap between itself and potentially dangerous neighbours like India, Japan, and Russia. China will attempt to ensure that it is so powerful that no state in Asia has the wherewithal to threaten it and will do all to crush ‘splittists’ within like the Tibetans and the Uighurs, so that the Sinocization is complete and there is no internal threat. At the same time, China pursuing military superiority will not embark on war, although that is always a possibility. Instead, it is more likely that Beijing will want to dictate the boundaries of acceptable behaviour to neighbouring countries, which it is already doing and have done in the past.

    Alongside, a much more powerful China will do everything feasible to try to push the United States out of the Asia-Pacific region

    That is basically the rationale for China spying along the US coast and entrenching itself in nations, not only around the US, but around the world in a competitive superiority mode with the US, to prove to the world and to its own people that what the US can do, China can also do and, with a slight warping the facts, prove China does it better.

    China is in the avatar of the ‘new kid in the block’ and it will do everything to indicate to the US and the world that it can copy and even outmatch the US.

    Therefore, China spying on the US in US waters is not surprising!

    The Han imagined cultural superiority will engine their ascendancy over the ‘uncivilised’ lands and people!

    Or so they most ardently believe!
     
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    China media warns Philippines of 'counterstrike' in South China Sea | Reuters

    (Reuters) - China's state media warned on Saturday that a "counterstrike" against the Philippines was inevitable if it continues to provoke Beijing in the South China Sea, potentially Asia's biggest military troublespot.

    The warning comes as ministers from both countries attend an Association of Southeast Asian Nations meeting in Brunei, starting Saturday, which hopes to reach a legally binding code of conduct to manage maritime conduct in disputed areas.

    At stake are potentially massive offshore oil reserves. The seas also lie on shipping lanes and fishing grounds.

    Both China and the Philippines have been locked in a decades-old territorial squabble over the South China Sea, with tensions flaring after the Philippines moved new soldiers and supplies last week to a disputed coral reef, prompting Beijing to condemn Manila's "illegal occupation".

    The overseas edition of the People's Daily, the official newspaper of the Chinese Communist Party, said in a front-page commentary that the Philippines had committed "seven sins" in the South China Sea.

    These include the "illegal occupation" of the Spratly Islands, inviting foreign capital to engage in oil and gas development in the disputed waters and promoting the "internationalization" of the waters, said the commentary.

    The Philippines has called on the United States to act as a "patron", while ASEAN has become an "accomplice," said the commentary, which does not amount to official policy but can reflect the government's thinking.

    "The Philippines, knowing that it's weak, believes that 'a crying child will have milk to drink'," the People's Daily said, accusing Manila of resorting to many "unscrupulous" tricks in the disputed waters.

    Beijing's assertion of sovereignty over a vast stretch of the South China Sea has set it directly against Vietnam and the Philippines, while Brunei, Taiwan and Malaysia also lay claim to other parts of the sea.

    The 10-member ASEAN hopes to reach a legally binding Code of Conduct to manage maritime conduct in disputed areas. For now a watered-down "Declaration of Conduct" is in place.

    On Thursday, China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi warned that countries with territorial claims in the South China Sea that look for help from third parties will find their efforts "futile", adding that the path of confrontation would be "doomed".

    Last week, China vowed to protect its sovereignty over the Second Thomas Shoal, known in China as the Ren'ai reef. The Philippines is accusing China of encroachment after three Chinese ships, including a naval frigate, converged just five nautical miles (nine km) from an old transport ship that Manila ran aground on a reef in 1999 to mark its territory.

    Last year, China and the Philippines were locked in a tense two-month standoff at the Scarborough Shoal, which is only about 124 nautical miles off the Philippine coast. Chinese ships now control the shoal, often chasing away Filipino fishermen.
     
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    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    Chinese media (or Reuters) need to consult English dictionary, which might help them to understand that a strike must proceed a counterstrike.

    Or state that Chinese threaten a strike in response to provocations by Philippines.
     
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    You guys need to learn more Chinese or don't trust everything by your media. As some commenters point out, "counterstrike" is never mentioned in the original Chinese version.

     
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    Good post. Although I would say that we need to be careful about referring to 'Han Chinese' in general. I think that the underlying cause is the attitude of the CCP, it's extreme nationalistic agenda and Machiavelian scheming - hence the niggling feeling that there is a paragraph from Sun Tsu behind everything that they do. Rather than build relationships with their neighbours based on mutual trust, its all about one-upmanship. Even Confucius has been hijacked for the cause of nationalism - China should go back to to the real teachings of one of its greatest philosophers and follow his 'Golden Rule' on the international stage "Never impose on others what you would not choose for yourself.
     
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    Touché, dude. Although in my defense, I did say it might be Reuters' lapse.
     

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